Xeon 1230v3 vs i74770 vs i5 4570

downthehollow · Feb 12, 2014

not looking to overclock until i get to know computers and my system better.

uses:What are my uses: recording gameplay, streaming, gaming, rendering video files, editing videos, gaming at high to very high while rendering, and gaming at 1080p for this gen games and next gen games (except the next crysis) and medium to high for the next 3 years at least.

reasons for your choices are appreciated. thanks!

RobCrezz · Feb 12, 2014

If you dont intend on overclocking, then the best option for all them options (for the price) is the Xeon 1230v3, unless you can get the 4770 for cheaper.

_samduck_ · Feb 12, 2014

For you i think the best option to go with at the moment is the i7 4770. This Cpu will give you the power to run high end games for years to come and it's advantage over the i5 (having hyperthreaded cores) will make it much faster when it comes to rendering and helping with streaming. I wouldn't choose the xeon for your pc because firstly, it's not a good chip to play games on, it was designed much more with industrial tasks in mind :3 good luck anyway.
Ps. if you wanted you could link your Youtube/Twitch account, I would be willing to check it out!

k1114 · Feb 12, 2014

Samduck, you do realize that they use the same die as the i7? There is no difference in design.

average joe · Feb 12, 2014

The xeon is essentially an i7 and performs 99.9% the same. There are a few differences xeons support ecc memory if you get a board that can take that kind. Server boards are expensive and slow but usually have more pci lanes available so you can run lots of cards. You may not notice the 5% slower performance from the board and typically they are usually pretty durable as they often run 24/7 for years. Think tractor vs sportscar. Due to the xeon being used in this type of board it can handle 4 more pci lanes than an I7 and supports some business orientated chip level instruction for VM ware and network security. The I7 will support a few consumer grade features and less business server features. The I5 is the same chip as the I7 with hyperthreading disabled. Someone told me hyperthreading is like adding 500 - 700mhz overclock to a chip in some situations or conversely you can compensate for not having hyper threading with a frequency bump.
Since this is not a K version that is not an issue. The I5 is definitely fast enough for 3 years, the xeon is considered a deal because you get an I7 for 50 less the the cheapest actual I7 intel sells. I recently built a new PC and went with the Xeon 1230v2. It's the ivy bridge version of your Xeon chip and uses less power. It was on sale $210 free shipping for the same price as the Haswell I5 but 100mhz faster and the turbo boost was a little higher than the Haswell version. Haswell is about 10% quicker than ivy bridge and probably worth the 40 bucks. I was on a tight budget and the 1155 (IB) motherboard was 20 bucks cheaper than the 1150 too. That 60 bucks let my go with a GT760 instead of a GT660.
USD

4570 is $200
1230v2 is $220
1230v3 is $250
4770 is $310

There is no difference in games at this time. The Xeons and i7 are faster at rendering. Do not get a 1220, it is not a good value at it's price point.

http://ark.intel.com/compare/75124,75054

k1114 · Feb 12, 2014

You don't need a server board and they are not expensive. They also do not have more pci lanes. It's not difficult to look this stuff up.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/server-chipsets/c222-c224-c226-chipset-diagram.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007629%20600452057&IsNodeId=1&name=LGA%201150
They even list consumer chipsets, h87, z87 etc in the server section. Check in the normal mobo section and you will notice the cpu support list has xeons on it. They also support ecc. Also none of these mobo chipsets have any difference on performance. They simply offer different features.

Ht is not like adding hz. It's roughly 20% increase in performance but this is only for multithreaded tasks that will use all 8 threads which is why you really can't compare it to a speed increase which helps everywhere.

average joe · Feb 12, 2014

k1114 :

You don't need a server board and they are not expensive. They also do not have more pci lanes. It's not difficult to look this stuff up.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/server-chipsets/c222-c224-c226-chipset-diagram.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007629%20600452057&IsNodeId=1&name=LGA%201150
They even list consumer chipsets, h87, z87 etc in the server section. Check in the normal mobo section and you will notice the cpu support list has xeons on it. They also support ecc. Also none of these mobo chipsets have any difference on performance. They simply offer different features.

Ht is not like adding hz. It's roughly 20% increase in performance but this is only for multithreaded tasks that will use all 8 threads which is why you really can't compare it to a speed increase which helps everywhere.

If your I5 is running 700mhz faster than the i7's clock the I5 will tie the i7 on that multithreaded benchmark roughly.

k1114 · Feb 12, 2014

But the 4670 can't oc and he said he will not oc.

average joe · Feb 12, 2014

k1114 :

yes I mentioned that. I was making the point that hyper threading or lack there of was not a deal breaker. A K series I5 could be faster than than an I7 across the board.. I think hyper threading is a good investment but it's unlikely an I5 is going to be too slow for gaming in the next three years considering what AMD is putting out.

CTurbo · Feb 12, 2014

The answer is simple. Get the Xeon e3-1230v3. If you want a little more oomph, the e3-1240v3 still comes in cheaper than the 4770.

downthehollow · Feb 12, 2014

_samduck_ :

But i've seen the specs of both chips and they both have the same properties except the xeon clocks just a little slower.

logainofhades · Feb 12, 2014

CTurbo :

^This. Also, I want to add, the E3 series are workstation class chips not really a server class chip and work in pretty much any consumer grade motherboard. They are basically what you would find in an entry level class CAD machine for instance. I have yet to see a haswell board that doesn't support the 1230v3. The amount of misinformation I see on here on a daily basis regarding these chips is really annoying to say the least.

downthehollow · Feb 12, 2014

so i'm getting that the general concensus is the xeon. quick quesitons 1. for cturbo- whats the difference between the two versions? 2. for k114- so which do you think i should get? the xeon too? And how long do you think a gtx 780 ti would last me in years? i don't mind playing on medium to high settings before i have to upgrade. i don't need exact time. just a rough idea of what you think.

downthehollow · Feb 12, 2014

logainofhades :

CTurbo :

^This. Also, I want to add, the E3 series are workstation class chips not really a server class chip and work in pretty much any consumer grade motherboard. They are basically what you would find in an entry level class CAD machine for instance. I have yet to see a haswell board that doesn't support the 1230v3. The amount of misinformation I see on here on a daily basis regarding these chips is really annoying to say the least.

So what you're saying is that the v3 is actually good for gaming?

logainofhades · Feb 12, 2014

Yes, it is. They will not perform any different than an i7 at the same clock speed and generation. I used to run a X3210 back in the core 2 days. It was no different than if I was running a Q6400. It was a good deal cheaper than a Q6600 and the Q6400 was OEM only, so it was a great deal.

RobCrezz · Feb 12, 2014

_samduck_ :

Please stop spreading misinformation. If you dont know, then don't guess.

RobCrezz · Feb 12, 2014

downthehollow :

logainofhades :

So what you're saying is that the v3 is actually good for gaming?

Yes, its a Xeon only in name and marketing really.

k1114 · Feb 12, 2014

The e5s also work in consumer mobos and I'd use those for workstations. There is also an e5 that is a quad core without ht so what makes e3 not server class. Just because they have a different name doesn't mean you should point out what you think makes hardware workstation class. Biased personal opinions is just as bad as misinformation. The only reason these labels should be mentioned is to group components with similar feature sets. Hence you call c200 and xeons workstation/server components (grouped together) and the 8 series/i series consumer components.

CTurbo · Feb 12, 2014

The Xeon is great for gaming. It's great for everything. The only difference between the 1230v3 and 1240v3 is the 1240v3 is clocked 100/100mhz higher and costs about $20 more. There is also an e3-1245v3 that is the same as the 1240v3 but adds integrated graphics. There are also more powerful and more expensive 1270v3, 1275v3, 1280v3 versions but they don't make very much sense from a price/performance standpoint.

One more very important thing-
The e3-12xxV3 Xeons are all Haswell and use the LGA1150 socket.
The e3-12xxV2 Xeons are all Ivy Bridge and use the LGA1155 socket.

Be careful when ordering.

logainofhades · Feb 12, 2014

E3 are entry level workstation chips. I have not seen an single Z87, h87, or B85 board that supports E5's. X79 I believe there are, but LGA 2011 is really a more of a server socket that Intel decided to make some high performance enthusiast class products for. I probably would go with a 4930k over an E5 series chip anyway. Price/performance of the other chips just aren't there for a gaming rig. The E3's 1230 and 1240 series chips are excellent price/performance vs their i7 counterparts.

CTurbo · Feb 12, 2014

The Xeon e5-1620v2 is the Xeon version of the i7-4820k
The Xeon e5-1650v2 is the Xeon version of the i7-4930k
The Xeon e5-1660v2 is the Xeon version of the i7-4960x

Unfortunately they are priced accordingly to their counterparts unlike their little e3 brothers which are cheaper than theirs.

k1114 · Feb 12, 2014

There are no e5 lga1150 which is why you won't find any for z87, h87 etc. Bringing up price/performance has nothing to do with classifying them as server/workstation (single category not 2) or gaming. Yes e3 is a lower performance category, just like an i5 is to an i7, an e3 is to an e5. But that makes it no different in classifying it as server/workstation which is a diversion of feature sets not performance. There are low end server/workstation needs hence low end server/workstation cpus.

average joe · Feb 12, 2014

A 780 ti should last 6 years..

average joe · Feb 12, 2014

the e5's are slowish and run in the tri channel memory boards with more cores..

The are all still sandy bridge i think or 1st gen I series parts.. they have not had a refresh and the speed is 2ghz + not 3 ghz + with prices in the 500+ range.. fantastic for servers not for gaming..

average joe · Feb 12, 2014

my 1230v2 is installed... the free cpu cooler was not very heavy.. intel used to give xeons an awesome cooler.. I have a stock q6600 cooler new in the box i'm using since that was a 95w part its doing the job.. the Ivy Bridge version turbos to 3.7ghz haswell goes 3.6 i think. zero problems with the board and processor install.. took 40 minutes. Ram is working fine I put XMP in the bios and it runs 1866 no problem. the Samsung evo SSD boots in 1.7 seconds. I moved the ssd from my q6600 into the new system and powered up without reinstalling windows. It booted right to desktop and asked for drivers. Windows 8 has a much better HAL than xp. I had to leave for work but I ran skyrim for a few minutes and it felt smoother. I can't wait to see if the turns in Civ 5 process faster. I keep quitting games before they end because turns took ages to complete.

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