PC Randomly Freezes

Uriomashka

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Hello, recently i purchased components to build a new unit. The first week i did not use the new unit very much, but when i started to i noticed that it randomly freezes, with no windows log or error; the unit fans and cpu fan keeps working, the power light is on, but the hdd one turns off, i can"t move my mouse or anything, i have to reset the computer.

Those are the specs:
PSU nJoy 600WRX 600W
Zeppelin 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
Hard disk WD 1TB SATA-III 7200 rpm 64MB Caviar Blue
CPU AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P
GPU GeForce GTX260
NO OC
I also have a DVD-Writer LiteOn IHAS122-14 and no external USB devices except mouse. At the back i have a 5.1 surround sound system and at the front jacks headphones and microphone.

My first tought was temperature, they were all fine, cpu hovers around 20 when idling (with stock cooler), after 4hr of gaming it averages 55, max ever was 61. I also read a lot of topics around here, so i tried to find the problem. I checked the HDD for errors, 2 times with windows feature, once with HDD Tune and once with WD's software, everything ok. But just to be sure i also tried another HDD Seagate 650gb 7200rpm, same problem. I tried on each HDD Windows Vista, and a few versions of 7, no luck. I tried to change the GPU, switched it with an older GT9800 for a few days, no luck, problem was still there. I've been contacting the warranty company, and they suggested some memory testing, did it twice with windows memdiag and with MemTest86+, i've been letting it to pass 9 times, took almost a day and no errors were found. They suggested a stability test with Prime95, it also passed (worked for a good amount of hours). After all this i went with the unit to warranty, for a professional check, and it came clean...witch was weird...cause they called me after 6 hours to give the results; and i told them that it can work ok for a couple of days or freeze more than 6 7 times a day, mostly browsing, idling or ocasional gaming, and they said that it doesn't matter cause the unit performed ok in their tests.

What i've noticed is that the freezes are more rare after i switched the power settings to high performance, but it still happens.

Before sending the unit to warranty i also checked for software issues, i've installed only mobo's drivers from cd after a clean win install, and let the HDD mostly empty, still happened.

My keyboard has a ps2 connector, hope i got it right, it is a no name one, worked fine on other 2 pcs that i changed in the past 6-7 years, and a USB mouse, Hama URage Gaming Mobile, it also worked fine on my previous PC for 7 months and on a laptop.

Now i don't know what else i can do, not even the diagnosis helped. Maybe they just tested what i've been testing, i really don't know. Hope they also checked the mobo, maybe there is a bad capacitor messing things up...

Problem seemed to happen more often when the cpu came from high frequency(3.7 amd auto boost when not all cores are working) to idling frequency 1.4, but it is not a rule, only somethimes did that. It happened 4 5 times while gaming and a lot while listening to music,browsing on forums or youtube and while the pc was just idling and not being used. I also tried to wait for a recovery when it freezes, but after 15-20 minutes i restarted the unit, i didn't want to risk it.

Can you guys help? I am really out of solutions now...and the warranty can only cover broken components, which apparently they don't find...

Thanks for reading.
 

Quarkzquarkz

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Right out the box, I'm guessing PSU. Always invest in a high quality PSU such as Corsair. Why? Most are not even tested for power stability and long term stress tests. Most of the time it is the cause of random errors like these, if everything else runs fine and the temp is stable. Good luck!!
 

g-unit1111

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I agree, low quality power supplies like that will generally lead to very bad things down the road. Although even top quality manufacturers like Corsair can be known to produce cheap crap (*COUGH* CX).
 

Uriomashka

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Well, the power supply passed the warranty service diagnosis, now i am not sure, also worked fine for 1 week on another pc, dual core 2.8ghz, 4gb ram, 9800gt, seagate650gb hdd and asus mobo, i don't remember the model. As i said, they told me that the components are working fine, but they have no ideea why it freezes cause it did not happened in their tests. So they took the money and signed the pappers... awesome service, and it is the best they can give...
 

Uriomashka

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And yes, it is a fairly cheap psu, costs around 50euros, but it seemed better than great for what i am doing with the system. I chose this because it had only positive reviews and the price caught my eyes
 

g-unit1111

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And that's the exact reason why I always say to never take store reviews seriously. Too often garbage products get highly rated and people often leave extremely negative reviews on top rated products. And you can't go into detail in a store review like they do on Jonnyguru, Tom's, or Hardware Secrets. You just can't. And studies have shown time and time again that people are more likely to leave a negative review than a positive one. And a lot of misinformation gets out about products this way, which I'm sure drives the manufacturers crazy.
 

Uriomashka

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Yes, true what you guys said... and still don't get it, if the psu is to blame...why they keep saying that it performed fine during tests and nothing's wrong with it...and the bad part is that i can't ask them to make another test unless i pay again... and they came up with all kind of rules that do not blame their tests... 2 3 more tests like that and i can buy another identical psu...lol... where's the point in having a warranty if they test the components superficially just to avoid changing them...this sucks...i'll be honest...this is not what i expected... really don't know what to do or where to start next. Thank you all for the posts
 

Uriomashka

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Ok i went back to the warranty. They said that the mobo and the CPU is not compatible, which they totally are, as declared by GB manufacturer, more than that, he can support a better one, i showed them that... and they had nothing to say. Then they told me that the PSU might be faulty, they can't prove it (have no ideea why... i doubt that they lack machines, they are the biggest pc components distribution company). By my specs this unit will never eat 500W, in full load, which will never happen, i'm not using it that much, the game i ocassionaly play uses only 4 cores at 20% load, and the gpu stays at 60% load, no more, so i doubt it will even come close to that while i use it. I also want to change the PSU just to be sure, with a Super Flower SF-750P14XE 750W Golden Green PRO, 90% efficiency, so it will have more than necessary. But still, as they told me that the cpu comes in conflict with the mobo, i refused to take the unit back until they find the problem, i made clear of that. Now let's see, i'm waiting a few days to call me back. Might be a GB mobo lie, and it actually does not fully support this CPU, i really doubt that... but they kept trying to make me believe it.
 

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