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February 12, 2014 9:33:38 PM

Let's face it. The Xbox One could be a PC by itself. It's running a Windows 8 kernel, a modified Windows 8 OS and all the hardware is x86. The question is not IF it can be done, but how hard would it be? I know there has to be at least one savvy hacker out there that can make the Xbox One run a standard retail version of Windows 8 like a full-fledged PC. I fully believe it can be done, but maybe I'm insane? Think about how cool it would be if you could choose to boot into Windows or normal Xbox at startup. The Xbox One would make a pretty decent PC, especially for the money (at least I think). I don't know of anywhere you can get a PC that powerful for $500. What do you all think? Possibility?

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February 12, 2014 9:37:19 PM

No, it would not make a pretty powerful PC for the money.
You can get considerably more powerful for 500$.

And yes, it should be possible.
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February 12, 2014 9:39:10 PM

Listen, no matter how much you have wishful thinking, PC's will always be a step ahead of consoles. Just trust me on this one~
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February 12, 2014 9:46:37 PM

Ok, you got me there as far as pretty powerful goes... yeah, you can build a PC for around $500 that's pretty awesome. The reason I'm asking is because I want an Xbox One but I also need a new PC (not for gaming, just a decent PC). So in theory I could use an Xbox One as a PC with the proper software modding?

(Yes - I agree PC is the master race, LOL)
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a b * Windows 8
February 12, 2014 9:48:37 PM

Why risk bricking the thing?

Instead spend money on PC and game on it AND whatever else.

Modding is not for people that want to do more because they are on a budget, modding is for people that have money to replace what they end up bricking.

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February 12, 2014 9:50:03 PM

Why not get a $500 pc (preferably one easily upgradeable) with a $20 USB controller and just game on steam?
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February 12, 2014 9:55:39 PM

You guys make good points, that's why I like these forums. The reason I don't do a lot of PC gaming is because none of my friends have gaming PCs and they're just console noobs. I can't convince them to build their own rigs. I'm super tight with my buddies and we game a lot together, so I'm going to get an Xbox One. I was honestly just curious about difficult it might be to run retail Windows on the thing. Where would one possibly start? How could you access the kernel? You can't just pop a Windows installation disc in there and boot from it. Haha.
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a b * Windows 8
February 12, 2014 10:04:06 PM

Windows can't install to the XB1, or the PS4 because it uses a SHARED MEMORY hardware setup that is not compatible.

It's really not that powerful in raw PC specs. If we ignored the cost of Kinect, BD player, and Controller, you could get a fairly similar LAPTOP (and the laptop would have its own advantages of screen, keyboard, battery).

XBOX ONE vs PS4:
The PS4 is a more powerful machine. Estimates I respect put it at about 25% to 40% mainly due to the better GRAPHICS.

*For cross-platform games what's really noticeable is that many games on the XB1 run at a lower resolution which really make anti-aliasing (jagged edges, line shimmering) far more obvious than the PS4.

Unless the XBONE has features you really need (Kinect?) then the PS4 games on average look a lot better and it costs $100 less.

I was all set to buy an XBONE for my living room (have a great gaming PC) but I'm not going to now. I basically put the entire thing on hold for a year then I'll see how things stand in terms of games, and whether we get DLNA media streaming.
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February 12, 2014 10:07:04 PM

Yeah I was just reading about the raw power of Jaguar vs. Piledriver desktop technology. The raw power difference is kind of disappointing. Fail. Anyway, could you explain this shared memory thing? If you don't mind ;) 
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February 13, 2014 4:54:17 AM

I doubt it would be powerful, but so someone somewhere could make it happen
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February 14, 2014 8:27:40 PM

PainTrane117 said:
Yeah I was just reading about the raw power of Jaguar vs. Piledriver desktop technology. The raw power difference is kind of disappointing. Fail. Anyway, could you explain this shared memory thing? If you don't mind ;) 


A normal PC has a set of memory for the CPU only. The graphics card is similar with its own GPU talking to Video Memory.

The XB1/PS4 have a SHARED pool of memory so the CPU and GPU both have access to the same memory locations.

Microsoft would have to completely re-write parts of Windows to work on hardware like this. It could be as simple as "the CPU gets the first 6GB, and the GPU gets the last 2GB" which may or may not be an easy thing. It's academic as Microsoft won't do that, and their code isn't open source in a way that is likely to be hacked.
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April 17, 2014 2:34:14 PM

If you installed a modern OS to the console it would probably be very, very slow because of the amount of complex instructions that it will be sending to the processor. And the Xbox processor is only designed to do smaller tasks at once.
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