Asus Intelligent Overclocking features.

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Sorry for the noob question but after watching JJ's presentation on how to do it wherein he was able to reach 4.8, I wonder why is his 2400hz ram was only able to reach 2133.

I am asking this because I also planned to overclock my next rig using this asus feature as my mobo is asus z87 pro, my only concern is say by luck I also got 4.8 and the registered ram freq is 2133 well in fact it should 2600hz as my ram is g-skills trident x 2600hz 8x2, my question is, is there a way for me to increase the ram freq from 2133 to its registered 2600hz or Ill just have to stick with it since it is already dictated by the system. Hope you understand my question. Thanks
 
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Sure, Haswell will "like" the additional bandwidth. No question there, but there comes a point that it really doesn't matter (going faster) due to the interactions of your system as a whole. Also, if you get too aggressive, your system can become unstable. If that happens, just back off your timings a bit.

Regardless, you can enter your BIOS and enable XMP and use the profile of your choice or you can manually tweak you settings to achieve the rated speed of your memory.

Good luck!
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Sure, you can manually set the memory speeds in your BIOS. You can also enable XMP profiles to assist as well.

Just keep in mind, that once you exceed the DDR3-1866 level or so, you won't see huge (if any) real increases in performance. Personally, I recommend users OC their CPUs and GPUs and leave their memory at stock (I usually recommend getting cheaper DDR3-1600 and DDR3-1866 memory) speeds. This is because OCing memory incorrectly can lead to an unstable system very easily and the performance gains are minimal.

Just something to keep in mind.
 
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Hi Thank you for the reply. This is not to contest what you said as I am just a noob seeking an answer but are you trying to say for I7 4770k, its useless to get beyond 1866hz ram? From what I read (anandtech haswell memory scaling), others are saying Haswell loves 2400hz and beyond ram? In fact in one of the forums here at Tom's Hardware, they are all saying 2400hz are pretty stable with their i7 4770k.

Anyway going back to my question, just to clarify, so assuming after I overclock my I7 4770k using G-skills Trident X 2600hz via Asus intelligent thingy and say the result is 4.8ghz and the ram is 2133), all I can just do is to do XMP so as it can be 2600hz?

Thanks for any feed backs

 
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Sure, Haswell will "like" the additional bandwidth. No question there, but there comes a point that it really doesn't matter (going faster) due to the interactions of your system as a whole. Also, if you get too aggressive, your system can become unstable. If that happens, just back off your timings a bit.

Regardless, you can enter your BIOS and enable XMP and use the profile of your choice or you can manually tweak you settings to achieve the rated speed of your memory.

Good luck!
 
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The article you refered to (linked below) showed very little scaling with increased memory speeds. The average looked to be 5%, with a lot of tests only showing 1-2%. You gain a larger percentage when using the IGP and increased memory speeds, but I would hope for gaming you have a discrete graphics card, afterall the 9FPS average they were listing for games isn't what I would call playable.

Anything 1600+ will do you just fine. If you can OC the ram to 2600 and keep a stable system, yes, do it. But dont expect a huge increase in real world performance.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-haswell
 
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Thank you all for the very informative reply. Really appreciate it :) At least now I know that after doing the Asus Intelligent overclocking thingy, I can still manually tweak the ram to match its rated speed, I mean in the case of tridentX 2600hz 2x8. As you know, perhaps my being noob, JJ's presentation made it appear that after you are done with the Asus feature, its a no no already to tweak your system such as in the case wherein he used a 2400hz ram and after he did that thing, sure he was able to make it to 4.8, but the ram speed wasn't able to reach the 2400hz. Hence giving me the impression that it just wasted his 2400hz ram. But after all your reply, I now know that I can still tweak it so as I can maximize the potential of my ram. Anyway thanks again guys
 
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oh by the way, hope to get also any recommendation, here are the specs of the rig I am planning to build. I am solely going to use it for my hobby, music making ;) I'll be using heavy samples like the Native Instrument Ultimate Komplete 9 Ultimate, Sonar X3 producer, Pro tools 11 (just the ordinary) and Reason 7 as my DAW (depends on what I feel to do)

I7 4770k
Asus Z87 Pro
G-skills Trident X 2600 hz 2x8 (32 GB)
Palit Geforce GT 420 2gb DDR3
Swiftech H320 (push pull config replacing the fans with NF-F12)
Corsair CX Series CX750M 80plus Bronze
Thermaltake Core V71
2 Samsung 840 pro 256 SSD
1 Seagate 7600
1 WD Green
Thermaltake Core V71
 
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Thanks for appreciating my build. Actually I owe this to the many kind and knowledgable experts like you (flattery aside). It took me several revisions basing from the many recommendations I am able to get from these forum. As a matter of fact I just changed the psu from vs650 to the current one I stated above as one expert also here in my other post told me corsair vs650 is no good.
Anyway as to your question, I'm using an external sound card, Roland's quad capture. In the near future, hopefully if my skills would upgrade as well hehe, I also plan to get maschine from native instrument and As for the moment am using A800 pro as midi keyboard. I am more of a sonar user though I used pro tools 11 for mixing then back to sonar for the final touch as I kind of like its pro channel. For beats and some sound design, I use reason 7. Nevertheless please don't expect that I am a pro musician as this is just a hobby to my day work, a gigollo (just kidding hehe). Anyway thanks again
 
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