Cpu problem i think

Nvyy · Feb 13, 2014

Hello,

I run a pc with these components:

Memory: Kingston 4GB 1600MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 DIMM HyperX Blu -> 4 of them

HDD: HDD WD Blue, 1TB, 64MB, 7200rpm, SATA 3

Power thingy : Inter-Tech Combat Power 650W

CPU: AMD FX X8 8350, 4000MHz, 16MB, socket AM3+, Box

Video board: AMD FX X8 8350, 4000MHz, 16MB, socket AM3+, Box

Motherboard: Asus M5A99X-EVO R2.0, Socket AM3+

I recently installed all drivers from the asus motherboard on their site, the nvidia driver and some other little things
http://puu.sh/6V7h3.png

Problems..

Hmm, where should i start

1.
I had a win 7 x32 with 8 gb of ram. I realised only after that win x32 uses 3.5g rams and i needed more for streaming games with twitch.tv, so I bought 4 more ram boards.

I just reinstalled my windows, i installed a cracked copy since couldnt find my original. After installing the windows, i plugged the rams in.
At system information, i have 16.0GB installed physical memory and only 11.9GB available physical memory.
http://puu.sh/6V6NR.jpg
Why is that?

2.
After reinstaling the windows, whenever i try to stream my games with OBS ( open broadcaster software) my pc does smth stupid like restart or give me a blue screen.
Right before doing that, i hear a fan in the pc going crazy. That's the cpu fan. The cpu fan was sometimes going crazy before, but didnt restart for a while now.
I've also had this problem when i got the pc ( 4-5 months ago) and installed the first windows (cracked also) ; i can't remember how i fixed it, don't even know if i fixed it or it fixed itself but it did pretty much the same thing, crash pc+ restart while ingame playing League of Legends;

I recently installed a CPU core temp monitor software which can show me the cpu temp while in windows, not only in bios, and i see it going crazy even without games open.
Last time it restarted, the CPU temperature in bios right after restart was 70 degrees celsius, probably cooled from 90 ( core temp tells me that 90 is the max it can go to )

So, basically, my question is : why is my cpu overheating so much? The 2 times it crashed i had open: League of Legends, OBS, Chrome with some music and maybe another tab.
I am going to test the RAMs tomorrow with memtest86+, dunno if the rams could be bad, i got 2 of them refurbished.

3.
Is there any way i can see if this windows is good?
The C://Windows folder seems a bit too crowded:
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Thanks for taking the time to read all this, i would really need some help if anyone has any ideeas ^^

firo40 · Feb 13, 2014

Sounds like the horrible power supply you have damaged your hard ware most likely next time you build a computer dont go for no name brands like that stick to xfx seasonic corsai or antec.

Nvyy · Feb 13, 2014

I had no ideea what i was building, i bought what a " know it all " friend suggested.
Is the power supply that bad? It wasnt cheap compared to the other supplies out there

firo40 · Feb 13, 2014

Yeah its not a trust worth company at all. Companys like that use cheap components inside that dont regulated voltages properly and can over heat and die easy or over volt the whole system easy.

Nvyy · Feb 13, 2014

Is there any way i could check if that's the problem?

Nvyy · Feb 13, 2014

Bump!

Nvyy · Feb 14, 2014

satyamdubey · Feb 14, 2014

Hi Nvyy,

two requests to you.
1. Do not Bump posts. It is not encouraged here.
2. Although I would agree that that PSU could be a culprit, I think you need to check whether your cpu heat sink fan is properly mounted and contacting the cpu's shiny metal part.

I suggests this because your system seems to be failing only under load conditions and because your fan rpms are going up. There is a good chance that you would have to remount your heat-sink/fan and whenever you do that, first clean out the old thermal compound and then apply a fresh pea size amount to the heat sink and install it on the cpu.

As for your question relating to ram, depending on the number of background services and your current OS graphics settings, the system may reserve some of the ram and would make available only the amount that can be totally freed up.

Good luck
-Satyam

Osoclocker69 · Feb 14, 2014

I would recommend replacing your power supply unit for one that is a good and trusted brand like Corsair, Thermaltake, etc . It is recommended that it is at least 80+ Bronze Certified for efficiency . I have a Corsair CX 600w (80+ Bronze) and It works perfectly with no problems at all, you can buy it here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028

If you want something more powerful or better, I would still recommend sticking to Corsair power supplies so here is another one you might like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021

Nvyy · Feb 14, 2014

Thanks for your answers guys, i didn't know bump is forbidden ^^.

When i got the cpu i applied the paste myself, and i put the whole full paste tube between the cpu and the cooler at a friend's advice.
It was this paste i think: Arctic Silver 5, 3.5 grams
Could that be the reason it is overheated?
Although, the interesting thing about it is that it didn't use to overheat before installing this new windows and rams ( 4 days ago) even when running the same apps as now.

satyamdubey · Feb 14, 2014

yes..you've put too much of the thermal paste. A dot about the size of a pea in the centre of the cpu metal plate is all you need.

Reinstall with that amount and you'd be good to go. Pass the word to your friend as well.

-Satyam

firo40 · Feb 14, 2014

Thats alot of thermal paste :| did the thermal paste fall over the motherboard around the cpu ?

zielritter · Feb 14, 2014

Is it still a possibility or a proven myth that the silver in the AS5 can cause shorts? Yet another reason not to over do it if it could.

satyamdubey · Feb 14, 2014

AS5 is not designed to conduct electricity but it is slightly capacitive. Although it may not short out a board, it can cause issues if it gets in areas where the pins are close enough that they may be capacitively bridged.

OP though seems to have an issue of over heating as too much of the thermal grease acts more like a barrier to heat transfer.

Nvyy · Apr 24, 2014

Hi. thanks for the answers, i just gave up on the pc at that moment and started using internet caffes.

I have another problem now, i'm getting blue screen every time i'm either playing League of Legends or watching youtube/streaming videos

This is the blue screen:

satyamdubey · Apr 25, 2014

So have you cleaned off the extra thermal compound and done a fresh heat-sink mount? Now for Driver IRQL stop, it is ocuring only when you are online... could be generating from a network/ram issue. To rule it all out, try with just one stick of ram. Your mobo may require you to install a single stick of ram in a particular slot, so do check your manual for that info. Do this with every stick of ram. Clean the ram contacts and the ram slots if there's dust. Keep adding ram in this fashion.

your network card. Check if the network card is not an issue by running your system without it. You obviously wont be able to initialize your programs but this is the way to check it.

Nvyy · Apr 25, 2014

hmm...
I was running 2 monitors, 1 24"connected through HDMI, the other one, 22 ", through DVI.
I recently turned off the second 22" monitor through desktop-properties-stop extending to another monitor ( the one connected through dvi ), and had only the hdmi one running (24"), while the DVI one was still plugged in.( only pc bios was loading on the 22 one, when the computer was restarted/ powered on)
After those horrible BSODs, i disconnected both of them and only used 1 monitor (24"), connected with the DVI cable. I didn't get any BSODs ever since, still waiting to see if it takes some time to happen.
No, i didn't clean the thermal compound yet, i think i will take it to a PCservice, it doesn't seem very easy to do myself, i need the PC cleaned also (it hasn't ever been cleaned, 8-9 months old).

P.s. any idea if i could clean it myself? it's kinda dusty ( maybe using a hair blow drier?) I don't have a leaf blower or anything that does that.

satyamdubey · Apr 26, 2014

absolutely do not use a hair blow drier unless you can run it cold. Hot air blowing on the components will damage them beyond repair and you won't be eligible for an rma either .

driver_irql can come from a hardware issue related to the gpu as well. If your temps are looking acceptable then you need not attend to the cpu cleaning immediately and if you are uncomfortable doing it yourself then get it to a service station. They can demonstrate you the correct method of removing old compound and applying it fresh.

all the best
-Satyam

Rationale · Apr 26, 2014

Nvyy :

As others have said, that's a terrible PSU, and too much thermal paste.

Windows 32-bit can't use much RAM. More than 4GB is a waste since a 32-bit OS can't use more.

Also, you can buy a can of compressed air for cleaning dust for generally about $5. I believe Wal-Mart stocks them, and so should any store related to offices or computers.

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