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skept1k

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So, I am making a new PC build here in the next three weeks and am down to two deciding factors. The GPU(s) and the PSU.

*PLEASE NOTE* Both the CPU and GPU in this system will be water-cooled. The GPU's will be water cooled using this nifty piece. (http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/138)

Here is my planned build (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2TvLA)

The case will be the NZXT H440 (http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/143-h440-performance-mid-tower.html)

I have a good amount of experience overclocking CPU/GPUs and have 100% interest in doing so for the whole system. ALL components in this build will be aggressively overclocked for maximum possible performance. Nothing will remain at stock speeds. If it can be clocked, it will be.

Now, I love AMD, but due to bitcoin miners skyrocketing the original price of the 280x, they are no longer an option. (Insert very sad face here)

I am stuck on deciding whether or not I should get two 760 GTX's, SLI them, and THEN overclock them aggressively.

OR

Get a single 780 GTX, overclock it aggressively, and in the next 6 months to a year add another for SLI.

I'll consider the 770 GTX, but have a good reason for recommending it please.

I'm looking to get most of the cards up there past 1200mhz core, which should be very doable on the water solution I have planned. (Will add voltage if needed, like always)

Now,

I'm looking to get the i7 to around 4.5ghz to 5+ Ghz, stable. I will have the X60 with the Silverstone 170+ CFM 140mm fans in a 4-way push/pull configuration for optimum cooling. (Noise doesn't bother me, I've grown used to it)

I know a very important part in overclocking is in the capabilities of the PSU. I know very little about these pieces and could really use some recommendations on that.

What cards/setup would you recommend and why? I am looking for high quality components here, so the best quality cards and PSUs for overclocking are a need. No Gigabyte products please.

Overall system recommendation are also quite welcome. Keep in mind a red and black color scheme, however.

I will likely be using a single, large, 120/144hz 1080P monitor and upgrading to triple-monitor. Or, a large 1080P TV.

Let me know what you think, thanks! :)
 
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You are a few weeks ahead of me, but looking at similar builds. I will be taking the plunge and doing a custom water loop so I'll drop a bit of info that I have found so far.

Starting point is a kit like this:
http://www.xs-pc.com/watercooling-kits/raystorm-d5-rx360-watercooling-kit $260
That takes care of one 360mm rad, the cpu block, pump and reservoir with all the compression fittings and tubing.

If you are getting a GTX 780, get one with the reference cooler, then add:
http://www.xs-pc.com/waterblocks-gpu/razor-gtx-titan-780-780ti $125
optionally, get the backplate too, which cools a little, but mostly for looks $30

I'll be adding a 2nd 240mm rad to mine
http://www.xs-pc.com/radiators-rx-series/rx240-dual-fan-radiator-v2 $80...
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I would look more towards the 780, I always prefer single card over dual ones. If you can pick up a 770 4GB for $300ish thats a good but as well. You'll want the extra vram for triple 1080p imo.

Keep in mind that with the NZXT G10, you'll need to get your own AIO liquid cooler and find a place to mount it in the H440. After pricing everything, you may be better off going a custom loop

 
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I was personally thinking the 780 as well, more future proof in the event I decide to do something nice display-wise.

As for a custom water cooling loop, what would you recommend? I've personally never dabbled in any water cooling methods outside of AIO. Main reason being the expenses. What would I be spending?
 
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Well for a single 780 you can still go the G10 + AIO route but with two 780's I afraid you'll get cramped with no place for your rads

This watercooling sticky is worth looking through
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/265776-29-read-first-watercooling-sticky

I think about $100 for the 780 block, $50+ for CPU block, $50+ for pump (maybe include res) and an unknown amount for fittings and tubing and $100 for rads [$300 total]

Your way is about $30+$50+ for 780 and $100+ for CPU which admittedly is cheaper [$200 total]

But the performance will be better on the custom loop [stronger pump + 2x 240mm rads] You can also consider getting the CM 240L Glacier or Swiftech H220/320 and building out from there which saves you $50 on rads.

Honestly, I've never dabbled in it since I neither have the time nor the money, nor do I personally need that level of cooling
 
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After doing a bit of research I think I'll have plenty enough to do TRUE water-cooling, doesn't seem very hard at all either. Run me about $300-$370, but for a major increase in cooling that's not bad for what I would pay going with two G10's and the X60 plus the 4, $17 SS fans. $30+$30+$120+$80, almost the same price but way better overall if I go for the true solution. Appreciate the thought on that note :)

Now, what would you recommend as far as a PSU goes? I'm still looking for a good one that will hold up to some pretty heavy overclocking on both card(s) and CPU.
 
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You are a few weeks ahead of me, but looking at similar builds. I will be taking the plunge and doing a custom water loop so I'll drop a bit of info that I have found so far.

Starting point is a kit like this:
http://www.xs-pc.com/watercooling-kits/raystorm-d5-rx360-watercooling-kit $260
That takes care of one 360mm rad, the cpu block, pump and reservoir with all the compression fittings and tubing.

If you are getting a GTX 780, get one with the reference cooler, then add:
http://www.xs-pc.com/waterblocks-gpu/razor-gtx-titan-780-780ti $125
optionally, get the backplate too, which cools a little, but mostly for looks $30

I'll be adding a 2nd 240mm rad to mine
http://www.xs-pc.com/radiators-rx-series/rx240-dual-fan-radiator-v2 $80

You'd need to buy the compression fittings for the extra rad and gpu blocks as well.

Then there all the fans you'd need. In the kit I'm looking at there, that's 10 120mm fans if doing push and pull config.

I'm also planning on rigid acrylic tubbing. It just looks so amazing, and from the videos I have watched, not that difficult. But it is a bit more involved than typical hoses. Here's a finished product though, see why I want to do it.
http://miregio.pl/ppc/red/14/10.JPG
Here's a how to on bending the tubing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHpreTceVpw

That will jack the price up by at least another $100 I'm going to assume, given I will probably go through a box making mistakes as I learn how to bend them correctly.

Again, I'm a total beginner so don't copy this list. Just food for thought. I'll be doing a lot more research over the next few weeks before I pull the trigger.
 
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That was quite an excellent contribution to the water-cooling side of my inquiries. A lot of information, suggestions, and cool stuff :) I'll be taking a bit of it into consideration!
 
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