CPU upgrade 2nd gen intel

brandon_daugherty · Feb 15, 2014

Right now I have a ph8h67-m pro/cm6850/dp_mb mainboard ASUS with intel i5 2320 and GeForce 760 gtx. I am wanting to upgrade my CPU but I want to get the best CPU for my money. I feel that if I upgrade to even the best CPU that this mainboard will allow (socket LGA 1155 I believe) that it will only be a small upgrade and not worth the money. Basically, what is the best CPU that I can get for this mainboard and would it be better to get a new board and newer CPU? For example the Intel Core i7-3820 is under $300 with great performance. I think I would need a new mainboard for this though.
thanks, PC Noob
I guess I should add that this is for gaming. I play CS:GO and don't really care about the graphics so much as I play on low settings to gain performance.

Unolocogringo · Feb 15, 2014

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8H67M_PRO/#support
Your motherboard supports a lot of processors with a bios update.
I7 2700k
I7 3770k appear to be the fastest 2 models your board and can be found for 300-350 dollars.

k1114 · Feb 15, 2014

The 1230v2 would be the best value. $100 less for only .2ghz less than the 3770k.

brandon_daugherty · Feb 15, 2014

dirtyferret :

well, I had the i5 with the 460gtx and upgraded to the 760gtx. big difference with the higher settings and on some other games I play.
Now I'm wanting to upgrade my cpu since the i5 2320 is really a low end cpu isn't it? I'm looking for speed in general.

brandon_daugherty · Feb 15, 2014

Unolocogringo :

Oh wow. that would be amazing and easy. I did not realize that. I thought the FCLGA1155 and the LGA1155 were two different sockets completely. Does the FCL just part of this just have to do with the update?
I will have to look into this. I feel this would be my best option. I like the idea of the 1230v2 as well. What do you think about that?

brandon_daugherty · Feb 15, 2014

k1114 :

After just a short research. I think this is a good idea. The only difference I see is the overclocking which I have no plans on touching.

CTurbo · Feb 15, 2014

Yes e3-1230v2 if you don't want to overclock. That's a no brainer.

Unolocogringo · Feb 15, 2014

No meaningful difference.
FC refers to a Flip Chip. Which all modern processors since the P2 (I believe) are. The 386, 486 ,and original Pentium had the chip face towards the socket and the connector interface towards the heatsink. This was covered in a casing to protect the interconnects.
As processors created more heat they flipped the chip over to expose the heatsink directly to the face of the chip.

When high pressure heatsinks were needed they started covering the processor face with a metal cap or IHS. to protect the fragile silicone surface. This started with the Pentium 3 Tualatin processors and is still used today.
So even if it is not labeled as FCLGA it actually is.

brandon_daugherty · Feb 15, 2014

dirtyferret :

brandon_daugherty :

if you are looking for better FPS then you should have gotten a better GPU. for your CPU you are more then fine. The i5 can handle any game on the market and upgrading to an i7 would be a waste of money if you just want to game

here is an entry level AMD quad vs the intel i5-2500k with an AMD 7970 at 1080p gaming, the CPUs hardly matter at that level as long as they can feed the GPU
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1180&page=8

I see what you are saying, but what does this link show exactly other than comparing two similar cpu's?

satyamdubey · Feb 15, 2014

To start with, since you have a H67 chipset, it does not make a difference whether you get a "K" cpu or not as overclocking wont be supported anyway. Do not therefore consider spending the extra money on a "K" cpu.

As for migrating to a xeon cpu for gaming it may work for you but I find it a bit hard to accept that a 2320 is giving you performance hit with 760 and that you have to actually play the game at low settings. Something might not be right with your configuration or the way your system has been set up. Can you take a screen shot of the temperature readouts for your cpu under load and idle and upload it so we may all have a look at it?

I completely agree with Dirtyferret that upgrading your cpu to an i7 or xeon 1155 would be more of a waste of money and that you may not see any perceivable performance gain.

-Satyam

brandon_daugherty · Feb 15, 2014

dirtyferret :

I like the idea of getting two GPU's. Also I actually play CS with 800x600 just because that is what I used 12 yrs ago when I started. Everything else looks funny to me. But have been testing out 1280x720 and thinking of changing. At these lower res do you think this would still be the best option?
Added: Thank you all so much for your help. This is exactly what I was looking for and needed.

k1114 · Feb 15, 2014

The i5 is not a low end cpu, in fact tom's still puts it in the top tier on the hierarchy chart. www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html

brandon_daugherty · Feb 15, 2014

k1114 :

Ehhh, very nice. I was actually looking for something like this. Since I know very little about PC's. I was always confused on what's best because I knew it didn't just go i3, i5, i7 bottom to top as far as performance but that they were all mixed up as far as quality. thank you.

brandon_daugherty · Feb 15, 2014

dirtyferret :

brandon_daugherty :

at lower resolution the burden becomes greater on the CPU, as you can see from the link above. You have a very good GPU, if your monitor can handle higher resolutions then I would move more of that burden onto the GPU. I understand it takes a while to get used to the different visuals at higher resolutions but there is no need to have two GTX760 to play CS at 720p. I would start moving your resolution up as you get used to it, before you know it you won't want to go back.

I will play around with this before I go any further into looking about upgrading. It's not just a visual thing either I don't think. I just feel that the game responds better and smoother. Even just as far as controlling spray patterns. I'm not sure why but I think even many of the top pro players prefer it this way for CS. I play all my other games with higher res but CS just seems much more demanding on accuracy of gameplay.

brandon_daugherty · Feb 15, 2014

satyamdubey :

To start with, since you have a H67 chipset, it does not make a difference whether you get a "K" cpu or not as overclocking wont be supported anyway. Do not therefore consider spending the extra money on a "K" cpu.

As for migrating to a xeon cpu for gaming it may work for you but I find it a bit hard to accept that a 2320 is giving you performance hit with 760 and that you have to actually play the game at low settings. Something might not be right with your configuration or the way your system has been set up. Can you take a screen shot of the temperature readouts for your cpu under load and idle and upload it so we may all have a look at it?

I completely agree with Dirtyferret that upgrading your cpu to an i7 or xeon 1155 would be more of a waste of money and that you may not see any perceivable performance gain.

-Satyam

What would be the easiest way for me to do this?

brandon_daugherty · Feb 15, 2014

dirtyferret :

brandon_daugherty :

at lower resolution the burden becomes greater on the CPU, as you can see from the link above. You have a very good GPU, if your monitor can handle higher resolutions then I would move more of that burden onto the GPU. I understand it takes a while to get used to the different visuals at higher resolutions but there is no need to have two GTX760 to play CS at 720p. I would start moving your resolution up as you get used to it, before you know it you won't want to go back.

So. after playing around w/ it a little bit. It's not so much the higher res but the 16:9. Everything is skinny and tall in CS. doesn't seem right. Would it be odd to have it on a higher res but 4:3 1600x1200 rather than the 1920x1080?

and my mobo doesn't support sli

satyamdubey · Feb 16, 2014

brandon_daugherty :

download openhadwaremonitor or coretemp utility and monitor your temps and cpu load while you play. additionally, openhardwaremonitor will show you how much of your gpu are you actually utilizing while gaming. ideally, it should be 100% and acceptable would be 90+

check that and let us know.

k1114 · Feb 16, 2014

It's not supposed to get skinny. Does the aspect ratio setting not change with res?

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