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February 15, 2014 5:48:59 PM

hi all, i'm looking to set up my first open water cooling loop, i have a 3570k overclocked to 4.4ghz, and a classified gtx 780 which of course is overclocked and overvolted. i want to cool it all and plan on getting the official evga waterblock. i'm currently looking at two kits for water cooling, the EK H30 360 HFX Advanced Liquid Cooling Kit, or the XSPC Raystorm AX360. they both seem somewhat similar with the ek having a thicker radiator and a tube res. i just want something that is quiet and will handle the whole loop. any help is appreciated thanks!

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February 15, 2014 6:06:36 PM

The EK kit is substantially better than the XSPC one.
The pumps are both of about the same quality, a good DDC vs a good D5. But the EK has the top CPU block on the market vs an average\slightly-above\average one, it has better Rad, much better Res; I don't know what the difference is in price but if it is just a matter of which is better, the EK one is.

One thing to mention, regarding the GPU block. You may want to seriously consider getting an EK block. They make the best block on the market for that card, whereas the EVGA one is rather not so good.
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February 15, 2014 6:12:24 PM

Deuce65 said:
The EK kit is substantially better than the XSPC one.
The pumps are both of about the same quality, a good DDC vs a good D5. But the EK has the top CPU block on the market vs an average\slightly-above\average one, it has better Rad, much better Res; I don't know what the difference is in price but if it is just a matter of which is better, the EK one is.

One thing to mention, regarding the GPU block. You may want to seriously consider getting an EK block. They make the best block on the market for that card, whereas the EVGA one is rather not so good.


ok and that's the way i was leaning anyhow my problem i'm seeing is the thickness of the rad, i've got a nzxt phantom 820 and i've not measured yet but a 64mm rad seems a bit huge would i lose a lot of pressure if i mounted the radiator and fans with the case mount in between (as in a 3 or 4mm gap in between the rad and fans)? and as far as the gpu block goes what kind of difference are we talking? i've got a backplate on it now would i need to get ek's?
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February 15, 2014 6:25:14 PM

Well 60mm is a standard size, so it is only a slight bit larger. Not sure why they picked such an odd size....In any case, where are you going to mount it? It will definitely fit on the top. Leaving a 4mm gap isn't the end of the world but isn't good. What you could do though is get a shroud for like 10 bucks tops and that would seal it.
Regarding the GPU block, the EVGA one cools the GPU itself fine but it doesn't do nearly as good a job on the VRMs, which since you have it overvolted could be an issue. I don't know if the EVGA backplate would work with the EK block. It wouldn't surprise me if it didn't. But on the other hand, EVGA wants $150ish for their block, and the EKs go for just over $100. So if you went with EK, even if you had to order a new backplate as well, it would still come out to be less money for a better product.
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February 15, 2014 6:28:57 PM

Deuce65 said:
Well 60mm is a standard size, so it is only a slight bit larger. Not sure why they picked such an odd size....In any case, where are you going to mount it? It will definitely fit on the top. Leaving a 4mm gap isn't the end of the world but isn't good. What you could do though is get a shroud for like 10 bucks tops and that would seal it.
Regarding the GPU block, the EVGA one cools the GPU itself fine but it doesn't do nearly as good a job on the VRMs, which since you have it overvolted could be an issue. I don't know if the EVGA backplate would work with the EK block. It wouldn't surprise me if it didn't. But on the other hand, EVGA wants $150ish for their block, and the EKs go for just over $100. So if you went with EK, even if you had to order a new backplate as well, it would still come out to be less money for a better product.


ok, yeah i'm going to mount it on top, and i'll find a way if it's tight, the backplate isn't required so if all else fails i could go backless i see there is two blocks both full cover, the chrome one and the mostly black one, i'm assuming there's no difference?
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February 15, 2014 6:44:00 PM

Yea it should definitely fit up top then unless you did something weird to the case :) 
And yes the backplate doesn't actually do anything on the 780; the block itself supports all the weight and it doesn't have VRMs on the back so yea.
There is no functional difference, they're both copper on the inside.
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February 15, 2014 11:40:11 PM

Deuce65 said:
Yea it should definitely fit up top then unless you did something weird to the case :) 
And yes the backplate doesn't actually do anything on the 780; the block itself supports all the weight and it doesn't have VRMs on the back so yea.
There is no functional difference, they're both copper on the inside.


ok rad, thanks! appreciate all the help and i hope this turns out good! cheers.
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