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I'm planning on building a new PC and I am having a little bit of a dilemma on what to get as far as processors go.
This is the build that I was planning on doing:

CPU:
AMD FD9370FHHKWOF FX-9370 FX-Series 8-Core Black Edition

Cooler:
Corsair Hydro Series Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler H100i

MOBO:
ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

GPU: I'm going to use what I already have which is are 2 GTX 670 4gig Superclocked edition in SLI

PSU:
Corsair Professional Series 860-Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Platinum Power Supply AX860

Case: Thermaltake Chaser MK-1 VN300M1W2N No PS Full Tower Case (Black)

As I look more and more into the CPU side of things.. I am getting a little skeptical saying that the intel cpu's absolutely rape the new amd's.. but I am also hearing that the new amd's are good. It is hard to determine the facts of the matter and just fan boy bias.

Any advice on what I should go with?

I want this build to last me several years of high performance gaming. Currently I am playing a lot of FFXIV:ARR and Battlefield 4

I also use programs like AutoCAD from time to time (though not very often and this is going to mainly be a gaming PC).

My current build that I am wanting to upgrade from is:

Intel I5 2500k
Mobo: Asus P8Z77-V
GPU: Previously Mentioned

I am wanting to upgrade for several reasons, but mainly I wanted to do something somewhat nice for my brother.. He has had his pc for many many years and its like an old dual core proccessor and he doesn't have the money to build a pc, so i was going to basically rebuild one for me and give him the majority of my current build so he would only need to get a few items.

Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated!
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  1. Dont even waste your money on the FX 9000 series. The 8350 is more than what you need for a MUCH lower price. The 9000 is just an 8350 heavily overclocked.
  2. pcgaming98 said:
    Dont even waste your money on the FX 9000 series. The 8350 is more than what you need for a MUCH lower price. The 9000 is just an 8350 heavily overclocked.


    Wouldn't it be good to have something that is already overclocked and stable?
  3. Not if you dont need it. It isn't as if a FX 8350 will bottleneck two 670s in SLI, and with a liquid cooling solution, you could simply overclock it yourself. You have all the tools you need, a top of the line motherboard, a cooling solution, and a overclockable processor, why pay over a hundred dollars more just to have it done for you? You seem like a smart guy, I'll bet you know how to do it, no use wasting your money just to have it done out of the box.
  4. pcgaming98 said:
    Not if you dont need it. It isn't as if a FX 8350 will bottleneck two 670s in SLI, and with a liquid cooling solution, you could simply overclock it yourself. You have all the tools you need, a top of the line motherboard, a cooling solution, and a overclockable processor, why pay over a hundred dollars more just to have it done for you? You seem like a smart guy, I'll bet you know how to do it, no use wasting your money just to have it done out of the box.


    Thank you, I really appreciate the response. And I'm honestly not too familiar with overclocking...it kinda of intimidates me and i have messed up before on an older build. I have a friend that had the fx 8320 and he said that it is difficult to get the 8350 past 4.2.

    So I take it you think I should go with AMD instead of intel?
  5. I'm a fanboy of AMD but out of all non-biasedness, and since you already have a Intel PC, you should upgrade to the 4670k, since it'll be all that you need for anything. You will have to get a new motherboard though, since the Core i5 2500k uses the LGA 1155 socket and the 4670k uses the 1150 socket. If you dont want to change, try upgrading to the Core i5 3570k.
  6. pcgaming98 said:
    I'm a fanboy of AMD but out of all non-biasedness, and since you already have a Intel PC, you should upgrade to the 4670k, since it'll be all that you need for anything. You will have to get a new motherboard though, since the Core i5 2500k uses the LGA 1155 socket and the 4670k uses the 1150 socket. If you dont want to change, try upgrading to the Core i5 3570k.


    Well, since i am planning on giving my brother my old rig.. im getting a new mother board anyways.. and i really liked the mobo for the amd cpu.. it looks like it has enough slots and space for my sli config plus i have the asus xonar 7.1 sound card, and right now with my current mobo.. is waaay to close to my main gpu and gets hot

    I am fine switching to amd.. i just want the best performance that I can attempt to get
  7. In that case, the FX 8350 is all you will really need.
  8. pcgaming98 said:
    In that case, the FX 8350 is all you will really need.


    My friend lives in Arlington and he said at MicroCenter they have the 9370 for 199. Should I get it then? Since it is the same price as the other one?
  9. Best answer
    If it's the same price, then I'll say go for it.
  10. Thanks for all your help!
  11. From a i5 to a FX-8xxx??? No reason to change then, your not going to 'improve' your performance. Your only way to 'improve' the performance would be either switch to a i5-4xxx (check with the Mobo Maker to see if you don't need a BIOS update) or to go i7.

    The current charts (you need to really inspect them) shows it is i7 (as always) Haswell (4xxx) on top, then i5, then FX-8, then close behind i3 (amazingly). AMD has not released anything at the E3 nor CES to challenge this, instead shifting and focusing on APUs for the portability marketspace (low power, low cost, low use in terms of horsepower).

    If you wish to see for yourself, simply Google BF4 CPU Benchmark, then click the Images tab in Google and look at the Benchmarks yourself. Going forward, you need more cores as the programming isn't all about rendering graphics anymore, but now actually processing of code in the CPU inclusive to what needs to be passed to the GPU.
  12. So..what youre telling me is bf4 runs better with intel..but in the future more cores is better because its more focused on coding? So if I understand you correctly then I should go for the amd that hss more cores if I want to future proof my rig?
  13. He said he was giving his Intel rig to his brother so I suggested him AMD. Intel performs better but it's only incremental and barely noticeable. This performance difference in BF4? It's never going to be more than a 10 fps difference, since the most workload is going to be on the GPU. The AMD FX 8350 (And the 9370) can do everything you want it to and more for a extremely reasonable price. I would suggest Intel for something extremely CPU heavy like Minecraft, where each core of a CPU must perform at it's absolute best, but BF4 isn't THAT CPU intensive (it is, but not THAT intensive).
  14. Unfortunately that logic doesn't pan out because in the case of the 'more cores' AMD does implement, it does it without a proper Threading engine like HyperThreading does. The more cores stumble over each other, trying EACH to independently get the next segment to process, to push out the work it did or screaming it wants it turn. So you get some Cores sit around idle (during a cycle of processing I am NOT talking % of CPU usage Windows guages), or worse sit on 'code' processed but not passed to the component to do something with it. That has been the reason AMD's highest CPU (your FX your thinking) is only able to compete BEHIND the i5-4xxx now, and barely in front of the i3-4xxx. Sadly at E3 and CES AMD only responded with APUs for the shift in focus to tablets and portable devices, then to address the 'loss' in performance to Intel's Haswell Chipset.

    Please understand, yes I know we are talking 3-10FPS difference today between each of these (i7vsi5vsFX8xxx) but we aren't talking today BACKWARDS performance, we are discussing what your investing in TODAY FORWARD. As I mentioned you can Google yourself the current CPU utilization in BF4, and if you consider that compared to BF3 CPU usage, it of course takes more effort. So looking forward 4 years, and BF5, then BF6 wouldn't' they also increasingly demand even more then BF4, and certainly BF3 would be like old Battlefield 1942 in comparision wouldn't it?
  15. I understand. And I can only hope that AMD will pull something out of their little hole in their back ends that can make for some future proofing.
  16. pcgaming98 said:
    He said he was giving his Intel rig to his brother so I suggested him AMD. Intel performs better but it's only incremental and barely noticeable. This performance difference in BF4? It's never going to be more than a 10 fps difference, since the most workload is going to be on the GPU. The AMD FX 8350 (And the 9370) can do everything you want it to and more for a extremely reasonable price. I would suggest Intel for something extremely CPU heavy like Minecraft, where each core of a CPU must perform at it's absolute best, but BF4 isn't THAT CPU intensive (it is, but not THAT intensive).


    Anonymous said:
    Unfortunately that logic doesn't pan out because in the case of the 'more cores' AMD does implement, it does it without a proper Threading engine like HyperThreading does. The more cores stumble over each other, trying EACH to independently get the next segment to process, to push out the work it did or screaming it wants it turn. So you get some Cores sit around idle (during a cycle of processing I am NOT talking % of CPU usage Windows guages), or worse sit on 'code' processed but not passed to the component to do something with it. That has been the reason AMD's highest CPU (your FX your thinking) is only able to compete BEHIND the i5-4xxx now, and barely in front of the i3-4xxx. Sadly at E3 and CES AMD only responded with APUs for the shift in focus to tablets and portable devices, then to address the 'loss' in performance to Intel's Haswell Chipset.

    Please understand, yes I know we are talking 3-10FPS difference today between each of these (i7vsi5vsFX8xxx) but we aren't talking today BACKWARDS performance, we are discussing what your investing in TODAY FORWARD. As I mentioned you can Google yourself the current CPU utilization in BF4, and if you consider that compared to BF3 CPU usage, it of course takes more effort. So looking forward 4 years, and BF5, then BF6 wouldn't' they also increasingly demand even more then BF4, and certainly BF3 would be like old Battlefield 1942 in comparision wouldn't it?


    I have been looking around and I am not finding very many good boards with decent reviews for the lga 1150. Keep in mind i would like one with a standard pci slot so i can still install my Asus Xonar DS 7.1 sound card. And one of the problems now (on my current board) is that the PCI slot is extremely close to a pcie slot where my first GPU is.. the bottom side of GPU is basically touching the back of the sound card and it causes it to get very hot. One of the reasons i was wanting to upgrade was so that I could maybe get a board that had more room on it for my sound card and sli set up
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