go with toshiba, i own a toshiba satellite a100, and my father bought it year 2006, it runs in windows xp home edition, but when windows 7 is out on the market, i upgraded it and only added an extra 1gb ram to its 512mb ram, and it runs smoothly without lag and still use it to play WAR III online. the only prob is that the hard disk of it is only 40gb, haha. but as for performance id say its perfect, the only thing we repaired til now is the keyboard letter X and CTRL. replace the keyboard and there you have it, 100% old model laptop that is still kicking,