AMD A10 7850K Vs Intel Core I5 4440

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I am not sure which would work out best an AMD A10 7850K with R9 280x or a Intel Core I5 4440 with a R9 270x

I can't afford an I5 with 280x which is what i really want
 
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I5 4440 will be much faster then A10 7850K
But Games are more depend on Gpu instead on Cpu.
So, A10 7850K will be bottleneck the R9 270x
(The difference b/w them will be noticible)
If i were you i would have grab the i5 4440
 
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what he said. an FX-6300 makes it a better compromise than an A10 APU when paired with a high-end GPU. it'd be a different thing if you were on a tighter budget and could only afford a 270X at best.

also, if you're in the US, you may want to consider a GTX 770 instead. Most 280X's are currently facing a price hike due to demands, making the 770 the better choice price-wise. so you may want a back-up plan in case you miss a deal like this $330 280X: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r9280xdc2t3gd5
 
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Thanks for your help

Main game i want to play is Skyrim on Ultra i have read that it is very CPU powered would a FX-6300 with R9 280x be best or the I5

I am from UK and we don't seem to have gone up in Price for the 280x yet
 
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Since the main game you want to play is skyrim your only choice is Intel. Skyrim only uses a couple cores and it wants very strong cores which the i5 has. Amd goes the route of more but weaker cores so you end up with half your cores in idle while playing skyrim and getting much worse performance.

The 7850k is like a refined 760k with a nice iGPU. So it is basically a $100 CPU with a $90 GPU. It's horrible to use with a dedicated card I'd honestly take an i3 over it

My point is for your game choice Intel i5 is your best option. It will also beat or tie the competing (8350) AMD CPU in every other game so its a good choice for any other games you may decide to play
 
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The FX 8350 is much cheaper than an I5 + you get a better GPU if you go with a FX 8350 and Skyrim isn't CPU dependent so its better to buy a better GPU And get a cheaper CPU such as FX 8350 which has the same performance as an I5
 
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Skyrim is not a CPU dependent game.. I have an FX 6300 and a GTX 650 and I never drop below 40fps on ultra 1600x900.. That link doesn't even work, Its got 404 error.. Skyrim can run on a bloody intel pentium as long as its paired with a good GPU..
 
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Skyrim will run well on any CPU.. That link shows it running @ 50fps on ultra.. Is that unplayable? Most new gen games will perform better on an FX 8350 over an I5 because they use more cores now such as BF4. If it was an I5 4670K it would be a different question but it's an I5 4440 so I believe the FX 8350 is better because it's unlocked and has more cores.
 
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Please.
New gen games wont run better on any of the current FX CPUs. 8320 doesn't have more cores than the i5 4440, what AMD defines as cores and what the real definition of a "core" is different.

The FX is unlocked which is the only reason why I would have considered it over the I5.
 
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I would suggest you to go with an FX 8320. I know that people say "It's AMD", "It's trash" and things like that but I can tell you that you will be very happy with this CPU. It cost less than an i5 and for me (and other people) is better than an i5. Maybe the single core operations are faster in i5 , but think again, Intel Core i5 has only 4 cores, AMD FX 8320 has 8 cores. Yeah yeah, people still says that no programm or game uses more than 4 cores but think again, for 2 years or maybe less or more the games will start using 6 Core/ 8 Cores and more so I would suggest you to go with an AMD FX 8320 but the chooise is in YOU! :)
 
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That graph shows that skyrim on ultra 1080 will be fine on any modern cpu, I dont play it but my kid brother is a fanatic and from when I've watched him it looks just fine on his stock 760k and 260x. Theres no need for ultra high end hardware to enjoy a game on pc, that myth just makes people buy consoles instead.

 
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Sorry What I have seen that you (joemann) trying to convince OP to buy a Fx 8350 because you have the weaker cpu of Amd.
Amd Fx 6300 itself gets beat by i3 in that segment and what you're saying is totally rubbish.
Amd 8350 got 8 slow cores that are terribly slow.On the other hand i5 have much stronger cores.i5 is better in single threaded applications.
Amd cores are very low clocked whereas Intel cores are very much high clocked.
Amd called them cores even they are not 8 real cores.
Anything more u need,
 
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How am i trying to convince him to buy a FX 8350 because I have a FX 6300? The Intel CPU he said he was going to buy was an I5 4440 which can't be overclocked so the FX 8350 will kill that once overclocked.. If the I5 3570K or I5 4670K were in his budget then I would have recommended those but he said he was looking at an I5 4440 or AMD 7850K so I recommended an FX 8350 which is the same price as the I5 4440.. Also how are they not real cores? Games that utilize more cores will run better on AMD because it has more cores..
 
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A ivy-bridge locket i5 processor stand stronger than fx 8350, in this benchmark.

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I wont try to overclock a fx without a cooler. For the price of that cooler he could have gotten a 4670k.

It is 4 cores which added components.
 
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The fx 8320 have 4 ALUs per modules(2 per core = 2 per thread)
4x4 = 16 ALUs
Each modules consist of 2x128bit FPUs or 1x256bit
2x4 = 8x128bit FPUs

i5 4440 have 4 ALUs per core(4 per thread)
4x4 = 16 ALUs.
Each core consist of 2x256bit FPUs or 1x512bit
2x4 = 8x256bit FPUs

ALU stand for Arithmetic Logic Unit
It is the unit for integer instructions.

FPU stand for Floating-Point Unit.
It's for floating points.

Modules is AMD CMT, is having a modules. This modules contains 2 cores. But it's not two complete cores, as they share the fetch, decoder and SIMD execution pipeline.

 
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An CM Hyper 212 Evo would take an FX 8350 to 4.5ghz and that only costs £25.. A good overclocking AM3+ motherboard is cheaper than an socket 1155 motherboard..If you want to OC the I5 4670K you would need an after market cooler for that.. And finally the FX 8350 is cheaper so it works out much cheaper with very close performance
 
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