Hello Everyone, I need some help and or suggestions please on video upgrade.

Hello Everyone,
I was looking at the 2014 charts and It looks like the GeForce GTX 660 is one of the top cards unless I'm not looking at the chart incorrectly. That card is only 200 to 250 on newegg, not sure what all the difference is between the same card. I'm going to be playing titanfall and the elder scrolls online, along with some other games that are somewhat graphic intense.

So what would be a good choice for a video card upgrade? I'm looking at around 400 or under but if that 660 is really that good and its only 200 bucks which doesn't make sense why such a great card on the charts are so cheap. Maybe someone can explain it better to me. Thank you guys for your time.


Chart:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html


My Specs:
Current Vid Card - EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1 GB 256 bit GDDR5 PCIE 2.0 x16
AMD Phenom II x6 1090T Processor 3.20 GHz
RAM (16GB) Patriot Viper Xtreme 16GB 240 Pin ddr3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 ( PC3 15000)
Windows: 7 64 bit
Raidmax 850AE 850W ATX 12v (Power supply)
Asus M5A99X EVO AM3+ AMD 990X Sata 6GB (motherboard)
HDD: Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5 sata III
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  1. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

    this is the hierarchy i'd follow.

    The 660 and 7870/270x respectively are part of each graphics card ranges lower high end cards and often perform well for their pricing. It's usually worth an upgrade if a card is atleast 2steps up that hierarchy I posted, the different is 2 but if you've got $400 you may as well go for this which is 4steps up and will be very noticeable.

    4GB EVGA: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp43774kr - EVGA make great nvidia cards

    If you want the best value 4gb 770 then go for this one: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/zotac-video-card-zt7030410p - about $40 less made by Zotac which is still a perfectly good maker of cards.


    Trying to find performance charts is hard.



    Battlefield 3 practically maxed out, the 660 doesn't even make the chart vs the 770 in these tests. The 7870 is a bit quicker than the 660 by a few fps in BF3



    The 770 can outperform the 690 in some games as seen here note the ultra high res on this benchmark


    Once again the 660 does not even make the chart, note again ultra high res.

    Due to a potential bottleneck you could also go with a new FX-8320 and GTX 760 for $400 PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($154.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($240.54 @ Mwave)
    Total: $395.53
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-17 22:37 EST-0500)

    Or of course you can get the 770 and upgrade CPU in future.
  2. Video card prices are completely messed up right now because of coin mining.

    It affects AMD, as their cards do it best.
    Their prices are going up, and you can't get the cards.
  3. millwright said:
    Video card prices are completely messed up right now because of coin mining.

    It affects AMD, as their cards do it best.
    Their prices are going up, and you can't get the cards.




    This too, I hate how it's being done on the retailers end as well not AMDs. AMD did not put the card prices up.
  4. The card makers also are not making a dime on it.

    It sucks, the R9 270 started out @ $179 on newEgg.
    The only one they have right now is $259.
  5. Thank you guys so much for the info it's been very helpful, I will go with the 770 below :)

    So would there be much of a bottleneck with my processor getting this video card?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130945
  6. There will be a bit of one, but nothing too limiting.

    That said you've got a perfectly good mobo to get an FX-8350+good cooler when ever you want and OC it.
  7. Awesome thank you guys so much.

    So what I think i will do is go with the FX-8320 processor and the 770 video card from evga, that should work well right? I know you mentioned the motherboard and the 760 but the 770 is 1 up at least for not to much of a price difference.
  8. I was a bit tired posting this, the second chart with BF3 is SLI 770's not a single but the point still stands.

    The 770 is great at this price.
  9. i edited my last post, not sure if someone saw it or not :D

    "So what I think i will do is go with the FX-8320 processor and the 770 video card from evga, that should work well right? I know you mentioned the motherboard and the 760 but the 770 is 1 up at least for not to much of a price difference."
  10. Yeah the 770 will be great AND FX-8320 is also good but often can't OC as high as the 8350 just you need a new PSU.

    If you're getting an 8320/50 make sure you get a decent CPU cooler as the stock one is pretty poor.

    Go for it.

    Raidmax PSU's are terrible though, you'll need a new one.

    http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
  11. Thank you, yea I'm not a big fan of overclocking stuff because it if fries I probably won't have the money to replace it.
  12. Are you going to replace the PSU?

    I REALLY wouldn't use a 770 with such an unreliable unit.

    As for the OCING, I'd still recommend you get a CPU cooler for the 8320. The stock is horrid.

    Even if it's only a cheaper cooler like the tx3 evo, superior to stock easily.
  13. I have been running this Zalman for a while which is an awesome cooler, at least it has been for me.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118223

    What PSU would you use, or recommend? I saw that list of the good the bad and the ugly psu's. So power wise 850 is sufficient, just the name is unreliable correct, on the one i have?
  14. How's this look for you?

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($152.48 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($346.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
    Total: $559.46
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-22 07:17 EST-0500)

    Tier 2 PSU, Enough to power the parts easily as well
  15. really, 60 bucks for the power supply? not bad, so is it the name that makes my current PSU not that great of a PSU? I cant believe my parts will run on a 650w power supply :D Looks great to me, i really appreciate it.
  16. So here are my specs now. According to the recommendations.

    My Specs:
    EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card
    AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor
    RAM (16GB) Patriot Viper Xtreme 16GB 240 Pin ddr3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 ( PC3 15000)
    Windows: 8 64 bit
    XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
    Asus M5A99X EVO AM3+ AMD 990X Sata 6GB (motherboard)
    HDD: Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5 sata III
  17. The quality of the PSU and the maker are more important than the W rating, A PSU that says its 850W could only really output 500W on it's rails.

    The Raidmax PSU you've got is an andyson unit and you can read about them here: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/351015-28-will-andyson-make-good

    That Raidmax PSU doesn't actually seem that bad from what I've seen online, but there wasn't many reviews.

    Quote from the review I read here:http://scorpinock2.wordpress.com/2012/11/06/raidmax-rx-850ae-review/

    "There are many comments on this power supply, and a lot of other information on the web, I pieced together some websites I could remember and find that had information on it as well as combining those with personal experience and many other comments. Overall this power supply seems reliable (no issues other than the fan, and the fan controller issue in one of my other posts was a bad pin), has a ton of features for cheap, is quiet enough after you deal with the fan in your own way (punching, dropping, adjusting a screw), gives good temperatures, and although the efficiency rating is a lie, it has 81 to 86 percent efficiency (86 at around 50 or so percent) which is good enough for me. I would rate this power supply am 8 out of 10. It’s pros are its price, accessories, good performance, and it’s looks. It’s cons would be a possibly noisy but fixable fan, it’s lies about efficiency, and possibly absent customer support. This concludes my review on the Raidmax RX-850AE 850 Watt power supply."

    It's your call whether you want to not change it, also an 850W PSU is overkill for Single GPU setups.
  18. ok thank you, I'm going with the recommended above :) you guys are awesome and thank you so much for the help. I thought I knew what I needed to know about building some computers, I'm going to continue coming here for future updates and builds.

    BTW the video card, power supply and processor i have to buy 2 of each since my wife's pc is getting upgraded :D Being a family of gamers can be expensive, and i have 2 girls that get upgrades too.

    Thank you so much
  19. By the way, you can even get away with this XFX 550W, it's on heavy discount right now as well.

    http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb9 - $25.99 with promo code+rebate

    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1958439/amd-8320-gtx-770-2gb.html - further backs up what I said about the 550W being fine.

    If you want help upgrading other builds, feel free to post here.
  20. Even better :) thank you

    Oh wow nice charts, see i didn't know that, :( man i should have come here years ago and posted instead of just being a viewer :D

    Someone posted "well, at stock clock (3.5Ghz), it'll be a just slightly hold back gtx770 real performance..
    overclocking it to 8350 clock (4.0Ghz) will make your system better..and (almost) free of bottleneck effect "

    my motherboard has an overclocking feature, if i wanted to OC my processor to 8350 should i use that or something else? I'm not usually one for overclocking anything due to fear of blowing something up.
  21. http://www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-piledriver-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboard

    Full overclock guide for using an ASUS Mobo, Your ASUS Mobo is one of their best so you should be fine to OC on it.

    I don't think you'll notice a bottleneck on a stock 8320 though, If you aren't confident in OCing you don't need to.
  22. hehe ok, thank you again guys :D
  23. Hey Guys, am I reading correctly that the Geforce GTX 770 is PCI-E 3.0 yet my motherboard is only 2.0. Is that not going to cause a problem?
  24. No, PCI-E 3.0 is perfectly backwards compatible with PCI-E 2.0 with little to no performance loss.
  25. Oh ok :) thank you.
  26. Is there anything else?
  27. not at the moment :D i think we are good though :)
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