Hello Everyone, I need some help and or suggestions please on video upgrade.

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Hello Everyone,
I was looking at the 2014 charts and It looks like the GeForce GTX 660 is one of the top cards unless I'm not looking at the chart incorrectly. That card is only 200 to 250 on newegg, not sure what all the difference is between the same card. I'm going to be playing titanfall and the elder scrolls online, along with some other games that are somewhat graphic intense.

So what would be a good choice for a video card upgrade? I'm looking at around 400 or under but if that 660 is really that good and its only 200 bucks which doesn't make sense why such a great card on the charts are so cheap. Maybe someone can explain it better to me. Thank you guys for your time.


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http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html



My Specs:
Current Vid Card - EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1 GB 256 bit GDDR5 PCIE 2.0 x16
AMD Phenom II x6 1090T Processor 3.20 GHz
RAM (16GB) Patriot Viper Xtreme 16GB 240 Pin ddr3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 ( PC3 15000)
Windows: 7 64 bit
Raidmax 850AE 850W ATX 12v (Power supply)
Asus M5A99X EVO AM3+ AMD 990X Sata 6GB (motherboard)
HDD: Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5 sata III

 
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

this is the hierarchy i'd follow.

The 660 and 7870/270x respectively are part of each graphics card ranges lower high end cards and often perform well for their pricing. It's usually worth an upgrade if a card is atleast 2steps up that hierarchy I posted, the different is 2 but if you've got $400 you may as well go for this which is 4steps up and will be very noticeable.

4GB EVGA: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp43774kr - EVGA make great nvidia cards

If you want the best value 4gb 770 then go for this one: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/zotac-video-card-zt7030410p - about $40 less made by Zotac which is still a perfectly good maker of cards.


Trying to find performance charts is hard.

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Battlefield 3 practically maxed out, the 660 doesn't even make the chart vs the 770 in these tests. The 7870 is a bit quicker than the 660 by a few fps in BF3

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The 770 can outperform the 690 in some games as seen here note the ultra high res on this benchmark

GTX-770-NVV-31.jpg

Once again the 660 does not even make the chart, note again ultra high res.

Due to a potential bottleneck you could also go with a new FX-8320 and GTX 760 for $400 PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($154.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($240.54 @ Mwave)
Total: $395.53
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-17 22:37 EST-0500)

Or of course you can get the 770 and upgrade CPU in future.
 
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This too, I hate how it's being done on the retailers end as well not AMDs. AMD did not put the card prices up.
 
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Awesome thank you guys so much.

So what I think i will do is go with the FX-8320 processor and the 770 video card from evga, that should work well right? I know you mentioned the motherboard and the 760 but the 770 is 1 up at least for not to much of a price difference.
 
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i edited my last post, not sure if someone saw it or not :D

"So what I think i will do is go with the FX-8320 processor and the 770 video card from evga, that should work well right? I know you mentioned the motherboard and the 760 but the 770 is 1 up at least for not to much of a price difference."
 
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Are you going to replace the PSU?

I REALLY wouldn't use a 770 with such an unreliable unit.

As for the OCING, I'd still recommend you get a CPU cooler for the 8320. The stock is horrid.

Even if it's only a cheaper cooler like the tx3 evo, superior to stock easily.
 
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really, 60 bucks for the power supply? not bad, so is it the name that makes my current PSU not that great of a PSU? I cant believe my parts will run on a 650w power supply :D Looks great to me, i really appreciate it.
 
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So here are my specs now. According to the recommendations.

My Specs:
EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card
AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor
RAM (16GB) Patriot Viper Xtreme 16GB 240 Pin ddr3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 ( PC3 15000)
Windows: 8 64 bit
XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Asus M5A99X EVO AM3+ AMD 990X Sata 6GB (motherboard)
HDD: Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5 sata III
 
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The quality of the PSU and the maker are more important than the W rating, A PSU that says its 850W could only really output 500W on it's rails.

The Raidmax PSU you've got is an andyson unit and you can read about them here: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/351015-28-will-andyson-make-good

That Raidmax PSU doesn't actually seem that bad from what I've seen online, but there wasn't many reviews.

Quote from the review I read here:http://scorpinock2.wordpress.com/2012/11/06/raidmax-rx-850ae-review/

"There are many comments on this power supply, and a lot of other information on the web, I pieced together some websites I could remember and find that had information on it as well as combining those with personal experience and many other comments. Overall this power supply seems reliable (no issues other than the fan, and the fan controller issue in one of my other posts was a bad pin), has a ton of features for cheap, is quiet enough after you deal with the fan in your own way (punching, dropping, adjusting a screw), gives good temperatures, and although the efficiency rating is a lie, it has 81 to 86 percent efficiency (86 at around 50 or so percent) which is good enough for me. I would rate this power supply am 8 out of 10. It’s pros are its price, accessories, good performance, and it’s looks. It’s cons would be a possibly noisy but fixable fan, it’s lies about efficiency, and possibly absent customer support. This concludes my review on the Raidmax RX-850AE 850 Watt power supply."

It's your call whether you want to not change it, also an 850W PSU is overkill for Single GPU setups.
 
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ok thank you, I'm going with the recommended above :) you guys are awesome and thank you so much for the help. I thought I knew what I needed to know about building some computers, I'm going to continue coming here for future updates and builds.

BTW the video card, power supply and processor i have to buy 2 of each since my wife's pc is getting upgraded :D Being a family of gamers can be expensive, and i have 2 girls that get upgrades too.

Thank you so much
 
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Even better :) thank you

Oh wow nice charts, see i didn't know that, :( man i should have come here years ago and posted instead of just being a viewer :D

Someone posted "well, at stock clock (3.5Ghz), it'll be a just slightly hold back gtx770 real performance..
overclocking it to 8350 clock (4.0Ghz) will make your system better..and (almost) free of bottleneck effect "

my motherboard has an overclocking feature, if i wanted to OC my processor to 8350 should i use that or something else? I'm not usually one for overclocking anything due to fear of blowing something up.
 
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