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February 17, 2014 11:54:21 PM

Which one these card should I buy for high end gaming:

GTX 780Ti
GTX Titan
GTX Titan Black
GTX 790 (Coming in March)

I need a card that will last at least 3-4 years as I don`t upgrade hardware often.
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February 17, 2014 11:59:13 PM

The 780Ti is the best solution right now, if you're ~1440p, anything above that or multi monitor, I'd go with the titan.
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February 18, 2014 12:01:03 AM

GTX 790 will be the most powerful of them all, but keep in mind that is will just be 2 GK110 chips.
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February 18, 2014 10:28:34 AM

780ti because the others are overpriced
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February 18, 2014 10:31:49 AM

well actually Titan (be it the old one or the upcoming black edition) only relevant if you use the double precision heavily in your works. if you purpose is for gaming only the choice is GTX780 Ti
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February 18, 2014 10:33:46 AM

Yup 780Ti hands down, but Titan for 2K or more.
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February 18, 2014 10:37:53 AM

780ti if you are mainly gaming and Titan if you are doing graphical work.
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February 18, 2014 12:33:17 PM

Thx all for advise....
One more thing I failed to mention/ask:

Should I wait for Maxwell 800 series (due in Q2-2014) or the above mentioned card will last for few years performance wise.
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February 18, 2014 12:40:06 PM

AliWaseem said:
Thx all for advise....
One more thing I failed to mention/ask:

Should I wait for Maxwell 800 series (due in Q2-2014) or the above mentioned card will last for few years performance wise.


Only one maxwell card was just released. I don't think the 8xx series will come out until 20nm is ready
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February 18, 2014 3:00:50 PM

780 ti all the way. Is it just me, or now that there is a more expensive card than the 780 ti, no one is complaining about the price tag on it anymore?
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February 18, 2014 7:37:17 PM

780Ti will handle 1440/1660 quite easily, my 780 does. If you are gaming with multiple displays, mind you thats full screen across 3 displays not gaming on one and having one on the side, then DEFINITELY go with the Titan Black.
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February 18, 2014 7:52:27 PM

My advice would be to wait until the GTX 880 is released, if you can wait that long. Currently, the GTX 780Ti is the best card for gaming at 1920x1080, but it is limited by 3GB of VRAM, which is not enough for 2560x1440 gaming (or above) if you like to turn up antialiasing, which most people with cards like these turn up to some degree. I have 2 GTX Titans and I've used almost 4GB of VRAM in some instances in Assassin's Creed IV (max settings, high AA settings, 2560x1440). So 3GB is kind of a painful upper bound on the memory for the 780Ti. The GTX 880 will most likely have more VRAM (my guess is 4GB) and will obviously be a more powerful card than anything out right now.
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February 19, 2014 1:01:20 AM

gridironcj said:
My advice would be to wait until the GTX 880 is released, if you can wait that long. Currently, the GTX 780Ti is the best card for gaming at 1920x1080, but it is limited by 3GB of VRAM, which is not enough for 2560x1440 gaming (or above) if you like to turn up antialiasing, which most people with cards like these turn up to some degree. I have 2 GTX Titans and I've used almost 4GB of VRAM in some instances in Assassin's Creed IV (max settings, high AA settings, 2560x1440). So 3GB is kind of a painful upper bound on the memory for the 780Ti. The GTX 880 will most likely have more VRAM (my guess is 4GB) and will obviously be a more powerful card than anything out right now.


Please spend some time reading through perhaps something like this, before giving people false advice. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-myths...
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February 19, 2014 1:06:38 AM

790 a waste its a 320 bit in sli with 2 gk110 with only 3gb vram. If your going higher than 1440p and want a smooth gameplay along 4 designing titan black . A 780ti will suffice but min you the vram limitation of 3g vram has been easily breached with bf4 known to use more than 3gb.
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February 19, 2014 3:04:55 AM

maxiim said:
gridironcj said:
My advice would be to wait until the GTX 880 is released, if you can wait that long. Currently, the GTX 780Ti is the best card for gaming at 1920x1080, but it is limited by 3GB of VRAM, which is not enough for 2560x1440 gaming (or above) if you like to turn up antialiasing, which most people with cards like these turn up to some degree. I have 2 GTX Titans and I've used almost 4GB of VRAM in some instances in Assassin's Creed IV (max settings, high AA settings, 2560x1440). So 3GB is kind of a painful upper bound on the memory for the 780Ti. The GTX 880 will most likely have more VRAM (my guess is 4GB) and will obviously be a more powerful card than anything out right now.


Please spend some time reading through perhaps something like this, before giving people false advice. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-myths...


Could you please explain how he is giving false advice? Everything in your article agrees with what he says. over 1440p= more ram, as well as high aa settings
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February 22, 2014 10:16:05 AM

Easy answer .. 780ti easily.

Games scale to the memory your card has. If you have a Titan or Titan black, the game will use the Vram more loosely. I have a 780 Ti and ran Titanfall beautifully smooth at 2560x1440p, 16xQXAA and textures on insane, everything maxed COMPLETELY.
It used 3043Mb out of my gpu's 3072 and the game ran smoothly 80-130 fps. Only reason to get a Titan black would be multiple screens or if you need the developer capabilities.

Normally, if you have a card with a lot of VRam, maxing it out can bottleneck performance, but that's if you don't have enough cores. 780 TI has a whopping 2880 cores. In comparison, my GTX 580 had only 512 cores and 3gb Vram which would definitely not handle such high specs.

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February 22, 2014 1:58:09 PM

BradleyJames said:
maxiim said:
gridironcj said:
My advice would be to wait until the GTX 880 is released, if you can wait that long. Currently, the GTX 780Ti is the best card for gaming at 1920x1080, but it is limited by 3GB of VRAM, which is not enough for 2560x1440 gaming (or above) if you like to turn up antialiasing, which most people with cards like these turn up to some degree. I have 2 GTX Titans and I've used almost 4GB of VRAM in some instances in Assassin's Creed IV (max settings, high AA settings, 2560x1440). So 3GB is kind of a painful upper bound on the memory for the 780Ti. The GTX 880 will most likely have more VRAM (my guess is 4GB) and will obviously be a more powerful card than anything out right now.


Please spend some time reading through perhaps something like this, before giving people false advice. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-myths...


Could you please explain how he is giving false advice? Everything in your article agrees with what he says. over 1440p= more ram, as well as high aa settings


Ofc it equals more vram, the false statemnt is 3gb vram is not enough at 1440p.
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February 22, 2014 4:49:48 PM

maxiim said:
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maxiim said:
gridironcj said:
My advice would be to wait until the GTX 880 is released, if you can wait that long. Currently, the GTX 780Ti is the best card for gaming at 1920x1080, but it is limited by 3GB of VRAM, which is not enough for 2560x1440 gaming (or above) if you like to turn up antialiasing, which most people with cards like these turn up to some degree. I have 2 GTX Titans and I've used almost 4GB of VRAM in some instances in Assassin's Creed IV (max settings, high AA settings, 2560x1440). So 3GB is kind of a painful upper bound on the memory for the 780Ti. The GTX 880 will most likely have more VRAM (my guess is 4GB) and will obviously be a more powerful card than anything out right now.


Please spend some time reading through perhaps something like this, before giving people false advice. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-myths...


Could you please explain how he is giving false advice? Everything in your article agrees with what he says. over 1440p= more ram, as well as high aa settings


Ofc it equals more vram, the false statemnt is 3gb vram is not enough at 1440p. [/quotemsg]

3gb is definitely enough Vram. I game at 2560x1440 and never experienced a game go over. And I max out everything. Including AA. TITANIUM came the closest and still ran perfectly. But if I had 4th then the game would use it just because it's there. The better the game is optimized the better it will scale. Titan blacks are certainly great cards too. If you are going to upgrade in 3 years, 2 titans will cost you 600 dollars more. Which is another upgrade a lot sooner. Go with 2 780ti's, put aside the 600, upgrade sooner if u need to. That's the safe route.
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February 22, 2014 10:43:14 PM

CJ kRoOkEd said:
maxiim said:
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maxiim said:
gridironcj said:
My advice would be to wait until the GTX 880 is released, if you can wait that long. Currently, the GTX 780Ti is the best card for gaming at 1920x1080, but it is limited by 3GB of VRAM, which is not enough for 2560x1440 gaming (or above) if you like to turn up antialiasing, which most people with cards like these turn up to some degree. I have 2 GTX Titans and I've used almost 4GB of VRAM in some instances in Assassin's Creed IV (max settings, high AA settings, 2560x1440). So 3GB is kind of a painful upper bound on the memory for the 780Ti. The GTX 880 will most likely have more VRAM (my guess is 4GB) and will obviously be a more powerful card than anything out right now.


Please spend some time reading through perhaps something like this, before giving people false advice. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-myths...


Could you please explain how he is giving false advice? Everything in your article agrees with what he says. over 1440p= more ram, as well as high aa settings


Ofc it equals more vram, the false statemnt is 3gb vram is not enough at 1440p.


3gb is definitely enough Vram. I game at 2560x1440 and never experienced a game go over. And I max out everything. Including AA. TITANIUM came the closest and still ran perfectly. But if I had 4th then the game would use it just because it's there. The better the game is optimized the better it will scale. Titan blacks are certainly great cards too. If you are going to upgrade in 3 years, 2 titans will cost you 600 dollars more. Which is another upgrade a lot sooner. Go with 2 780ti's, put aside the 600, upgrade sooner if u need to. That's the safe route.
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Actually 1 Titan is enough
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February 25, 2014 10:07:07 AM

caj said:
CJ kRoOkEd said:
maxiim said:
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maxiim said:
gridironcj said:
My advice would be to wait until the GTX 880 is released, if you can wait that long. Currently, the GTX 780Ti is the best card for gaming at 1920x1080, but it is limited by 3GB of VRAM, which is not enough for 2560x1440 gaming (or above) if you like to turn up antialiasing, which most people with cards like these turn up to some degree. I have 2 GTX Titans and I've used almost 4GB of VRAM in some instances in Assassin's Creed IV (max settings, high AA settings, 2560x1440). So 3GB is kind of a painful upper bound on the memory for the 780Ti. The GTX 880 will most likely have more VRAM (my guess is 4GB) and will obviously be a more powerful card than anything out right now.


Please spend some time reading through perhaps something like this, before giving people false advice. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-myths...


Could you please explain how he is giving false advice? Everything in your article agrees with what he says. over 1440p= more ram, as well as high aa settings


Ofc it equals more vram, the false statemnt is 3gb vram is not enough at 1440p.


3gb is definitely enough Vram. I game at 2560x1440 and never experienced a game go over. And I max out everything. Including AA. TITANIUM came the closest and still ran perfectly. But if I had 4th then the game would use it just because it's there. The better the game is optimized the better it will scale. Titan blacks are certainly great cards too. If you are going to upgrade in 3 years, 2 titans will cost you 600 dollars more. Which is another upgrade a lot sooner. Go with 2 780ti's, put aside the 600, upgrade sooner if u need to. That's the safe route.




Actually 1 Titan is enough[/quotemsg]

1 780ti is enough.

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February 25, 2014 11:06:59 AM

AliWaseem said:
Which one these card should I buy for high end gaming:

GTX 780Ti
GTX Titan
GTX Titan Black
GTX 790 (Coming in March)

I need a card that will last at least 3-4 years as I don`t upgrade hardware often.


The GTX780ti is fantastic for high FPS gaming in games like BF4 or Titanfall. These cards are fantastic for 1080p gaming with up to 4 monitors, and come at a much better price than the Titans.

The Titan and Titan Black are fantastic solutions if you're looking to record your gameplay due to it removing the bottleneck at your 3GB's of DDR5. However for the price, unless you're planning on recording gameplay on extremely graphically intense games, use any 3D rendering or multitasking between gaming and other graphics intensive applications, the Titan series will be overpriced and unnecessary. These cards are meant for heavy graphics load, rather than simply high FPS and quality in game which is why they have such a dramatic amount of VRAM.

The GTX790 will immediate out perform the Titan series in gaming environments with less VRAM running at a higher frequency. However, these cards will be extremely overpriced for easily 6 months post release, and there aren't any games out at this point that will really take advantage of the added features that this card brings to the table.

I hope this helps! Sorry if any of this information is redundant in addition to earlier posts.

-Alex
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February 25, 2014 11:34:39 AM

Admiration20 said:
AliWaseem said:
Which one these card should I buy for high end gaming:

GTX 780Ti
GTX Titan
GTX Titan Black
GTX 790 (Coming in March)

I need a card that will last at least 3-4 years as I don`t upgrade hardware often.


The GTX780ti is fantastic for high FPS gaming in games like BF4 or Titanfall. These cards are fantastic for 1080p gaming with up to 4 monitors, and come at a much better price than the Titans.

The Titan and Titan Black are fantastic solutions if you're looking to record your gameplay due to it removing the bottleneck at your 3GB's of DDR5. However for the price, unless you're planning on recording gameplay on extremely graphically intense games, use any 3D rendering or multitasking between gaming and other graphics intensive applications, the Titan series will be overpriced and unnecessary. These cards are meant for heavy graphics load, rather than simply high FPS and quality in game which is why they have such a dramatic amount of VRAM.

The GTX790 will immediate out perform the Titan series in gaming environments with less VRAM running at a higher frequency. However, these cards will be extremely overpriced for easily 6 months post release, and there aren't any games out at this point that will really take advantage of the added features that this card brings to the table.

I hope this helps! Sorry if any of this information is redundant in addition to earlier posts.

-Alex



Alex, How does more VRAM = better recording? Using Nvidia shadowplay doesn't consume anything from the GPU. But I agree, 780ti is a fantastic card =) And Gsync will be a great compliment
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April 24, 2014 11:35:45 AM

I noticed you never picked a solution idk if you already made your choice and purchased your GPUs yet but my take is this. Grab 2 GTX 770 4GB in SLI hold onto that set up until the 900 series and garauntee yourself a true performance increase with a better when the new 20nm is well a little older. I can an 800 series being very pricey so pricey that it would out weight its performance increase or temps.

By the time the 900 are released you should expect them all to have the GK110 and the 20nm! I feel the 770 SLI is more than enough to hold you out a while even long enough to wait for some of the 900 series cars to drop a little in price! Anyhow if this helps ya out let me know?

I would also like to clear any idea of a 790 what Nvidia actually has planned for a dual GK110 is actually hinted to be called the Titan Z! It is not clear yet whether those GPUs will be fully unlocked like the GPU in the Titan Black but in order to justify their ridiculous asking price I would think they would have to.

Also the Titan Z (790 as everyone likes to say) will have 6GB VRAM Nvidia plans to respond with the Z to AMDs dual GPU R9 295X2's! The AMD one rumored to be around the $1500 range and soak up 500W allby itself and the Titan Z rumored (by Nvidia themselves) to be ranging in the $4K range and also soak up a nice 500W to itself as well O_o...Although this is foolish cause I could technically buy 2 Titan Blacks fully unlocked CUDAs for two-thirds the price but yea!

Anyhow I hope this helps everyone else understand what the plans really are and that the supposed 790 is at the moment known as Titan Z. Again I can't help but to stress that with the prices being what they are I stand by the GTX 770 SLI until the cost of a GK110 actually becomes reasonble for its price/performance ratio.

2x GTX 770 are more than enough for 1920x1080-2560x1600. Assuming you get the 4GB VRAM (don't say it I know VRAM does not stack in SLI idk why ppl always feel the need to but don't I'm no noob) of course and no matter how you look at it I mean its a lot less expensive for the performance any real gamer is after. Plus I am going with you might not be gaming at 4K just yet since those monitors are expensive in a way I couldn't even explain.

I would wait to see what G-Sync offers in a couple months. A 2K Reslution G-Sync would be totally PRIME (that means kool O_o) and you would be much happier over all at least I think so! Anyhow no need to take my advice its just a suggestion but I am just looking out for a fellow PC gamer! Since we all want some kind of idea here: http://www.zdnet.com/amd-unleashes-dual-gpu-radeon-r9-2... :bounce: 
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May 1, 2014 4:56:13 PM

Whammy said:
Yup 780Ti hands down, but Titan for 2K or more.


For gaming, the 780ti whoops the TITANs behind as it has more cores, compute units, and can be OCed far more than the TITAN... THE TITAN BLACK is another story... that beast has what a 780ti has.. can handle the clock speeds a 780ti, AND has the double precision fully unlocked... but it's a 1,100-1,300$ card where a 780ti runs 600-750 depending on the factory OC and the amount of RAM on the card... if money was NO issue.. Id say go the TITAN BLACK all the way... (or 2-3 TBs in SLI)

The Titan does more double FP vs the 780ti.. but you only need that if you are a MEGA BOINC user doing computational projects.

The only time a titan will help is if your game needs more than 3-4GB of texture memory. TBH, if u have a 4GB 780TI, you will need to be rendering a LOT of pixels before you'd come close to using all that VRAM.

I run at 2560x1600, and RARELY have I seen a game even come close to 3GB (I use EVGA precision X and have all the stats on my g19 KB)... Thief will get right at the 3GB mark with EVERY, SINGLE option MAXED Out.. others will get close (around 2.5GB).. and I still have 1-1.5GB free

So if you look at my total pixels 2560x1600 = 4,096,000.. 4M pixles my video card(S) must deal with at the same time...

So you can't just say "if you have multi monitor, use the titan" as I've seem MANY multi monitors (usually due to cost) be 2-3 1920x1200 (or 1920x1080), or even 1680x1050....

So lets go with the high end of 1920x1200 (16:10 ratio).... 2,304,000 ... now 1080p = 2,073,600... that's about 1/2 the pixels I use.. So you could EASILY run 2-3 monitors at 1080 or 1200p and have NO need for a titan's memory... and if you are at 1680x1050.. then you can DEFINITELY run 3 at once on a 3-4GB 780ti without overflowing the memory

Once your games start needing more than 3 or 4GB VRAM (due to multi monitors or just one VERY high rez monitor),(depending on your 780ti) , then you would need a titan or TB. Once you use all the texture ram, Windows will use System RAM.. (sort of like windows using the pagefile system with physical ram gets low)... and system RAM is much slower and needs to be moved in and out of the GPU memory via the PCI bus.... with PCI 2, this is VERY slow, not so bad with PCI 3.. but still you still take a significant perf hit.

In Summary, just add up the pixels you need to work with at once... if it's over 4M (3GB card) or 5M (4GB card) then get a titian vs a 780ti.. Also consider just how much system ram is needed.. If you have PCI 3.x, you have a 3GB 780ti, you use multiple monitors, and and the game uses 3.1 or 3.2GB of VRAM at it's peak. I say keep the 780s.. that TINY amount of system ram that needs to be moved in and out isn't going to slow you down that much... IMO once you exceed your card by 512MB RAM, then you need to start using cards with more memory... in the case of this post ... a TITAN vs a 780ti

And no.. 2 780Ti will not help.. for those who don't know, when you use SLI or X-fire (by Ati), the memory on each card is NOT pooled. It's use to render the extra frames on those extra cards. There IS one exception: Dual GPUs on nvidia cards... So gtx 695 (?) I think that the dual GPU in the 600 line.. It's GPUs CAN share the video memory, but that's only because they are PHYSICALLY on the same card as the memory.

If the 790 has a 6GB option, and it's cheaper than a Titan.. go with that... as you will get more bang for your buck.

as people have said, the TITAN line is WAY over priced... you pay 500-600$ more for an extra 2-3GB of RAM and for a GPU that doesn't have it's double precision nerfed.

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