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February 18, 2014 1:12:20 AM

Hello, so, I am attempting to build a budget gaming PC for the first time. I have decided on everything else (in the PC case). I’m not sure who is better Nvidia or AMD. I found 3 different graphics cards but I’m not sure which one is better:

1 - MSI GeForce GT630 Nvidia Graphics Card (4GB, PCI-E 2.0 x16)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GeForce-GT630-Nvidia-
Graphics/dp/B00896KEXU/ref=sr_1_11?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1392393876&sr=1-11&keywords=graphics+card

2 - Palit 2GB Nvidia GeForce GT 630 Graphics Card (DDR3, HDMI, DVI, VGA, PCI-Express 2.0, DirectX 11.0 & OpenGL 4.2 Support, 3D Vision with Blu-ray 3D Support, Nvidia PureVideo HD Technology)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Palit-Graphics-PCI-Express-Pure...

3 - Sapphire 11202-13-20G AMD Radeon HD 7750 Graphics Card (could not find the wattage)
http://shop.amd.com/uk/Manufacturer/Sapphire/Detail/Gra....

Maybe there is stronger card for the money. I’m not sure which one is most powerful to go along with the rest of my parts:

= 1TB ECO 3.5-inch Desktop Hard Drive.
= Corsair CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9B 4GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance Blu Memory. (thinking of also getting an extra 2GB it the conbination of one 4GB with one 2GB memory is possible)
= Corsair Builder Series CXM (Unsure of the Wattage, please advise me) Modular 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX/EPS PSU.
= Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Motherboard (Socket AM3+, Up to 16GB DDR3, USB 3.0, uATX).
= AMD Athlon II X4 750K CPU - (Black) (Quad Core, 3.40GHz, 4MB, 100W, Socket FM2, AMD PowerNow! Technology).
= Ezcool K9 720B Black Gaming Computer PC Tower Case with Blue LED Fan.

Please tell me if I should change the other parts. Please get back to me soon.
February 18, 2014 1:36:28 AM

I guess the 7750 is over powered compared to the other nVidia cards. I am about to get HD 7750 because it is the best among them, cheap and suitable even for 350W PSUs. Gt 630 way too weak for gaming. For more info, check this site for benchmark score.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
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February 18, 2014 1:38:28 AM

Hi there, This is an oddd build.

The motherboard and CPU are not compatible.

The CPU is fm2 socket and motherboard AM3+

As for the GPU you should look at something like a 7770 or maybe a discounted 7790 not these weaker cards.

As for the power supply, go for this one : http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-Edition-Bronze-Wired-Supply... It's better quality than a corsair cx series.

Can you post full budget and I'll post a build.
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February 18, 2014 2:00:59 AM

not compatible build. what is your budget. in dollars. and ill assemble one for you
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February 18, 2014 3:22:01 AM

My budget is about £300 - £350. Does it make a difference between a 1GB card to like 2/4GB card. Is XFX a recommended power supply brand?
I don't think I'll change my CPU but for the motherboard any suggestions.
Should I go for the 7750, 7770 or the 7790?
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February 18, 2014 3:25:18 AM

Thanks for posting trick, of them the 7790 is the faster card.

I'm happy to make you a build around the 750K CPU and I'll post it in a bit.

XFX is a good power supply brand, so are corsair but their cx units aren't great.
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February 18, 2014 3:27:17 AM

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2VkNO
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2VkNO/by_merchant/

That is a much better setup for your money I think.
CPU Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor £83.14
Motherboard ASRock H87M Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard £61.00
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory £67.30
Video Card Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 1GB Video Card £92.90
Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £37.63
Total: £341.97 (Shipping cost included)

Scratch that, you still need a case and storage. Sorry I didn't notice that.
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February 18, 2014 3:42:09 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£55.84 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard (£33.35 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.98 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 1GB Video Card (£92.90 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£29.98 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.98 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.83 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £359.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-18 12:09 GMT+0000)

£9 over budget, hope that's okay if not I can tinker with the build!

1GB GDRR5 VRAM is fine for lower end cards, 1GB GDDR5 RAM is faster than 2GB DDR3 for example.
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February 18, 2014 3:59:14 AM

go with ashyCFC it is the best build you can go with your budget.
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February 18, 2014 4:51:16 AM

AshyCFC (thanks) is the R7 260X bter thanthe 7750 and 7790 cards?
Also I haven't gotten a monitor yet so that list is a bit expensive, I could cut down the graphics card price (I think I'll stick with my case if everything can fit {about £31, different site}). the 7750 card is about 40% cheaper. What about if I got a 2GB RAM and a 4GB RAM -£15.
What do you think?
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February 18, 2014 4:55:27 AM

I will use your list (AshyCFC) for a later build or upgrade but not for my first build if you understand.
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February 18, 2014 4:55:41 AM

260X is an update 10% faster 7790.

How much are you willing to spend on monitor? I know a 23" 1080p for £70.

full build with monitor for £430 how's that?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£55.84 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard (£33.35 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.98 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 1GB Video Card (£92.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.98 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.83 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: AOC e2343F 23.0" Monitor (£69.91 @ Amazon UK)
Other: Your case choice (£31.00)
Total: £430.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-18 13:00 GMT+0000)
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February 18, 2014 4:59:11 AM

AnEwG said:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2VkNO
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2VkNO/by_merchant/

That is a much better setup for your money I think.
CPU Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor £83.14
Motherboard ASRock H87M Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard £61.00
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory £67.30
Video Card Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 1GB Video Card £92.90
Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £37.63
Total: £341.97 (Shipping cost included)

Scratch that, you still need a case and storage. Sorry I didn't notice that.



I think the AMD QUAD-CORE would be better.
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February 18, 2014 5:01:01 AM

AshyCFC said:
260X is an update 10% faster 7790.

How much are you willing to spend on monitor? I know a 23.6" 1080p for £70.


So it maybe 10% faster but it is about 90% more money. (First build) I might have to stick with the 7790 or 7750 if I can't the 260X any cheaper.

Could you send me the link for that please, maybe smaller for about <£50 I'm sure it is possible.
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February 18, 2014 5:05:15 AM

That monitor is the cheapest 1080p available.
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February 18, 2014 5:06:08 AM

Uhm, A 7790 is the same price if not more than that 260x.

If you want cheaper then get the 7750.
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February 18, 2014 5:06:59 AM

Any smaller 1080p monitors?
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February 18, 2014 5:07:54 AM

Trickx said:
Any smaller 1080p monitors?


for more money, sure.


EDIT, that £69 offer is no longer available.

There's this 21.5 inch samsung available for £77.99(on aria website) not sure why it's listed as £79.99
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£55.84 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard (£33.35 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.98 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 1GB Video Card (£92.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.98 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.83 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Samsung S22C150N 21.5" Monitor (£79.99 @ Aria PC)
Other: Your case choice (£31.00)
Total: £440.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-18 13:14 GMT+0000)

If you want to spend less(and have significantly worse gaming performance)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£55.84 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard (£33.35 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.98 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7750 1GB Video Card (£72.82 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.98 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.83 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Samsung S22C150N 21.5" Monitor (£79.99 @ Aria PC)
Other: Your case choice (£31.00)
Total: £420.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-18 13:16 GMT+0000)

I couldn't find many charts for 260x vs 7750 but here's one:



The 260X is an ideal first gaming card, for these charts imagine the 7790 is the 260x although the 260x should be 5-10% better than the 7790.



I think you may have misunderstood my earlier statement, the 260x is 10% better than the 7790, you can see the different between the 7750 and 7790 for yourself.
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February 18, 2014 6:23:19 AM

Trickx said:
AnEwG said:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2VkNO
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2VkNO/by_merchant/

That is a much better setup for your money I think.
CPU Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor £83.14
Motherboard ASRock H87M Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard £61.00
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory £67.30
Video Card Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 1GB Video Card £92.90
Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £37.63
Total: £341.97 (Shipping cost included)

Scratch that, you still need a case and storage. Sorry I didn't notice that.



I think the AMD QUAD-CORE would be better.


OK, lets see how 2 highly efficient Intel Haswell cores with hyper-threading do against the QUAD-CORE AMD processor:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-4130...

According to this, the DUAL core Intel is 16% more efficient in multi-threaded applications which is supposedly AMD's strong point not to mention the obvious -48%- advantage in single threaded performance for the i3. Go figure.
There is no way the 750k can compare to the i3-4130, and for budget gamers who can afford it, it is more worth getting. But that is a meaningless argument anyway since you are on a tight budget.
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February 18, 2014 6:28:58 AM

To the OP: You can game with everything maxed out with a 720p monitor and r7 260x.
With the 1080p monitor you will have a higher resolution but you will have to dial down quality settings. With that processor and card I would personally get a 720p monitor. Of course you can play at 1080p monitor with lowered resolution as well but it won't look as sharp as when using a 720p display.
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February 18, 2014 6:30:43 AM

You can easily enjoy most games in 1080p on med with the 260x

As for the 7750, I'd advise going 720p with that as well.
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February 21, 2014 9:13:24 AM

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R7 250> Worse than the 7750, Faster than a 7730.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon-r7-240-and-250,rev... There's the full toms review for you, contains plenty of infomration and benchmarks.



What about the Sapphire RADEON R7 250 with Boost Graphics card - 2 GB?
Where did you get the graphics card compare chart please?
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February 21, 2014 9:52:45 AM

Here's one from Toms.



You can find tons of these charts on the review I posted.

I believe that's an anandtech chart I used earlier.
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