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February 18, 2014 5:13:49 AM

Hello

So I have this Samsung SyncMaster B2230 LCD TFT for a few years now (which I dont know and cant find on the internet on what type of panel it has ) and I have to give it to my father since he needs a new one and mine is perfectly fine and I was interested in buying something anyway so win win.

Now, I like to play video games , all types of video games and watch movies.

Its basically a question I've been seeing a lot on the internet.Mb someone can finally clarify.

IF I play lots of game types, like WoW, Diablo3, Starcraft II, Counter-strike: GO ,Dota 2 , some call of duty multiplayer and stuff like this and given that I dont play many FPS games and my competitive days are long gone, should I get a 5ms IPS or 120hz TN. Keeping in mind that I like to watch a lot of tv shows and movies aswell and that I dont really care for perfect colors, tho I wouldnt mind.

So what do you guys think?
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February 18, 2014 5:50:23 AM

120hz TN may be more expensive, and if you're not used to it and don't play heavily competitive FPS games, it's probably not worth it. Also, when I filter for 120hz and 144hz displays at pcpartpicker, it only lists 24 inch and 27 inch models. What diagonal size did you want, and what's your budget? I advise against relying on manufacturer specifications of response time, because it's so poorly defined that one monitor listed as 8ms response time could have less ghosting than another listed as 5ms response time.
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February 18, 2014 6:32:59 AM

MauveCloud said:
120hz TN may be more expensive, and if you're not used to it and don't play heavily competitive FPS games, it's probably not worth it. Also, when I filter for 120hz and 144hz displays at pcpartpicker, it only lists 24 inch and 27 inch models. What diagonal size did you want, and what's your budget? I advise against relying on manufacturer specifications of response time, because it's so poorly defined that one monitor listed as 8ms response time could have less ghosting than another listed as 5ms response time.


I am looking for 1920x1080 on either 21'5 up until 24.

Budget I dont know really.Something more mid range.Hard to tell a budged since in my country something that might be 200$ on amazon or w/e is like 310$ which is expensive as hell.

I guess a budget between 250$ to mb 400$.400$ being how much the BenQ XL2411T 120hz costs.That would be the top of my range.

Problem with specifications is a lot of monitors I search for reviews just have these brainwashed reviewers who just read everything off of the site's specifications and dont tell me the real MS or if it has ghosting issues.Not all of them but a majority of the IPS monitors I have searched barely get reviewed properly.

Do you maybe know of some with actual 5 real ms and little to no ghosting?
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February 18, 2014 7:47:14 AM

You don't have to specify your budget in US Dollars. If you can list one or more sites you can order from, I could look through the monitors there and see if there are some in your budget I could recommend. If you want better IPS monitor reviews, try looking at TFT Central or X-Bit Labs (the latter site hasn't reviewed a monitor since 2011, but some of the older reviews might help you understand why one number for the response time severely oversimplifies things). Ghosting is rarely noticeable unless you're really sensitive to it or the monitor lists something like 14 ms or higher for response time. If you're that worried about it, though, you might as well go for a 120hz (or even 144hz if you can find one) monitor, as those tend to do better at anti-ghosting (though sometimes if the anti-ghosting settings are too high, you can get inverse ghosting).
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February 18, 2014 9:10:18 AM

MauveCloud said:
You don't have to specify your budget in US Dollars. If you can list one or more sites you can order from, I could look through the monitors there and see if there are some in your budget I could recommend. If you want better IPS monitor reviews, try looking at TFT Central or X-Bit Labs (the latter site hasn't reviewed a monitor since 2011, but some of the older reviews might help you understand why one number for the response time severely oversimplifies things). Ghosting is rarely noticeable unless you're really sensitive to it or the monitor lists something like 14 ms or higher for response time. If you're that worried about it, though, you might as well go for a 120hz (or even 144hz if you can find one) monitor, as those tend to do better at anti-ghosting (though sometimes if the anti-ghosting settings are too high, you can get inverse ghosting).


http://www.pcgarage.ro/monitoare-led/

This is the site im ordering from.Just translate it in english It shouldnt be hard to translate the site.

O, and you can't search by refresh rate so dont even look for it.
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February 18, 2014 10:11:37 AM

There's no filter by refresh rate, but there is a filter by "Compatibil 3D", and the TN panels that have that will be either 120hz or 144hz. I saw an IPS panel that had that, but I'm guessing that one does row-interleaved passive 3d instead of active 3d with shutter glasses, so the response time won't be that great. Unfortunately, all the 3d-capable monitors at that site are quite a bit more expensive than the BenQ XL2411T. Dell Ultrasharps, like the U2412M or U2312HM, are good. TFT Central has reviews of them:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2412m.htm
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2312hm.htm
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February 18, 2014 10:23:27 AM

isnt 8ms g2g like a lot?I heard people say that 1 ms GTG is usually 4-5 ms.So 8ms GTG might be quit heavy on the ms.Or am I interpreting it wrong?
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February 18, 2014 10:52:28 AM

Like I said, the response time in the specifications is so oversimplified it becomes meaningless, even for comparison, because different manufacturers use different methods for distilling it down to one number - it's really at least 20 numbers (e.g. going from 25% gray to 75% gray will often take a different amount of time than the reverse; how many numbers you get depends on how many shades of gray you consider - 5 is generally the minimum, but I think 7 and 9 are also common. If you consider all 256 possible shades of gray, that's 65,280 possible transitions), and then there's things like RTC overshoot. It's more than I can easily explain in a forum post, so I'll just direct you to the TFT Central article about it: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/response_time.htm

The reviews of the U2412M and U2312HM are too old to use the new testing methodology described in that article, but you should look at the "Responsiveness and Gaming" sections of those reviews.
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