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Can this PC run all the newest games on Low-Med settings?

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February 18, 2014 7:02:02 AM

I was thinking of buying this PC. Would it be able to last me a long time to play games like Battlefield 4 and Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance and upcoming ones like Titanfall on Low-Medium settings at the least? I want to know if I can run these games and others so I wouldn't need to upgrade or replace this PC for at least around 5 years or so.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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February 18, 2014 7:05:07 AM

i really would recommend to build your own pc.
its cheaper and better.
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February 18, 2014 7:11:08 AM

It would be better to build your own desktop PC.
It is cheaper concerning of what you get with the same price.
You can adjust the components best to your need.
If you have never done it before than you will be several steps smarter after building it. :) 
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February 18, 2014 10:43:52 AM

kraken501 said:
i really would recommend to build your own pc.
its cheaper and better.


guanyu210379 said:
It would be better to build your own desktop PC.
It is cheaper concerning of what you get with the same price.
You can adjust the components best to your need.
If you have never done it before than you will be several steps smarter after building it. :) 


I understand that, but I have no knowledge whatsoever on how to do so and I'm not interested in that right now. I'm not looking for a total graphical powerhouse that can run anything on Ultra at 100FPS or anything like that. Now, considering I wanted to buy a PC, would this one be good for what I described?
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February 18, 2014 10:58:17 AM

If that is the case,
The pre-build is not that bad..but the combination is not really effective for the money.
No guarantee for upgrade free in the next 5 years, since I dunno how the games minimum specs will develop in the next 5 years but the rig can definitely handle BF4 and Titanfal with medium to low.

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February 18, 2014 11:24:24 AM

There's no discrete (seperate) video card, so you're running off of the graphics that are integrated into the CPU. Here's a review of the chip:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2014/01/30/amd-a1...

At 1920x1080, with low settings, you'll average 21 FPS. Most people consider 30 FPS the minimum for "playable" quality, so this is going to look pretty bad. Granted, the game will probably still look pretty good on "low," but the next iteration of games might be too much for this chip to handle. You'll get slightly better results at lower resolutions, and can someday add a graphics card to the build as long as the PSU has enough headroom. If it doesn't, you'll need to replace both.

Also, once you add a graphics card to that setup, and turn off the graphics from the chip, you've wasted money on an APU. So, overall, it's not a great idea.

Look for something that lists a seperate graphics card. For about $100 more, you can afford to build your own full system with an FX-6300 and R9-270x, which will easily run BF4 at 60 FPS on high (maybe ultra?) and be much more future-proofed.

It isn't nearly as difficult as it sounds, and at most you'll need a screwdriver, some zip ties, and some patience. Otherwise, like I said, look for something with a discrete graphics card in it, google the benchmarks / reviews for that card, and find your price point.
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February 18, 2014 12:04:32 PM

l337n00bh4x0r said:
There's no discrete (seperate) video card, so you're running off of the graphics that are integrated into the CPU. Here's a review of the chip:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2014/01/30/amd-a1...

At 1920x1080, with low settings, you'll average 21 FPS. Most people consider 30 FPS the minimum for "playable" quality, so this is going to look pretty bad. Granted, the game will probably still look pretty good on "low," but the next iteration of games might be too much for this chip to handle. You'll get slightly better results at lower resolutions, and can someday add a graphics card to the build as long as the PSU has enough headroom. If it doesn't, you'll need to replace both.

Also, once you add a graphics card to that setup, and turn off the graphics from the chip, you've wasted money on an APU. So, overall, it's not a great idea.

Look for something that lists a seperate graphics card. For about $100 more, you can afford to build your own full system with an FX-6300 and R9-270x, which will easily run BF4 at 60 FPS on high (maybe ultra?) and be much more future-proofed.

It isn't nearly as difficult as it sounds, and at most you'll need a screwdriver, some zip ties, and some patience. Otherwise, like I said, look for something with a discrete graphics card in it, google the benchmarks / reviews for that card, and find your price point.


You mean like this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, the monitor I was planning to buy it with only supports 1440 x 900 at max and honestly, I've had worse monitors and that's more than enough for me. I never wanted a completely crazy computer, just one that can run any game for the next few years (around 5) at Medium settings and be playable. If it's really going to be that bad like you said, maybe I should invest in this one. But are you sure it'd be that bad if I got the first choice I mentioned before? And I don't have the knowledge or the time to build a PC. If I want to, maybe I'll see if I can upgrade the one I end up getting down the line.
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February 18, 2014 12:06:10 PM

guanyu210379 said:
If that is the case,
The pre-build is not that bad..but the combination is not really effective for the money.
No guarantee for upgrade free in the next 5 years, since I dunno how the games minimum specs will develop in the next 5 years but the rig can definitely handle BF4 and Titanfal with medium to low.



Someone previously mentioned I get something like this one. Would that be a better bet for an upgrade free computer for the next 5 years? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 18, 2014 1:40:29 PM

You mean like this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, the monitor I was planning to buy it with only supports 1440 x 900 at max and honestly, I've had worse monitors and that's more than enough for me. I never wanted a completely crazy computer, just one that can run any game for the next few years (around 5) at Medium settings and be playable. If it's really going to be that bad like you said, maybe I should invest in this one. But are you sure it'd be that bad if I got the first choice I mentioned before? And I don't have the knowledge or the time to build a PC. If I want to, maybe I'll see if I can upgrade the one I end up getting down the line. said:
You mean like this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, the monitor I was planning to buy it with only supports 1440 x 900 at max and honestly, I've had worse monitors and that's more than enough for me. I never wanted a completely crazy computer, just one that can run any game for the next few years (around 5) at Medium settings and be playable. If it's really going to be that bad like you said, maybe I should invest in this one. But are you sure it'd be that bad if I got the first choice I mentioned before? And I don't have the knowledge or the time to build a PC. If I want to, maybe I'll see if I can upgrade the one I end up getting down the line.


It looks like I didn't see the first one you posted DID have a discrete card in it - however, yes, running a non-APU CPU gives you much better performance and down-the-road options, plus you can slap an aftermarket cooler on the 6300 and overclock it :)  The one you linked ($799) has an R9 270x in it, which should easily run things at that resolution, and you can maybe xfire it later if your MoBo / PSU support it. It's not a BAD deal.

The original PC from your first post WOULD run the newest games at low/medium, however, so the answer to your ORIGINAL question is : Yes.
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February 18, 2014 1:51:25 PM

No matter what people say on this forum, it is never cheaper to build your own pc IF you do not know what you are doing. You usually end up making mistakes or buying wrong parts. It can be frustrating. if you have never done it before, it is way better to buy a prebuilt.

I am an expert and I ahve been building my own systems for years, however, I recently purchased a pre-built Alienware. It turns out I could not have built the machine from scratch cheaper than buying it from Alienware. And it saved me a ton of work.
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February 18, 2014 2:09:49 PM

Falcon5850 said:
No matter what people say on this forum, it is never cheaper to build your own pc IF you do not know what you are doing. You usually end up making mistakes or buying wrong parts. It can be frustrating. if you have never done it before, it is way better to buy a prebuilt.

I am an expert and I ahve been building my own systems for years, however, I recently purchased a pre-built Alienware. It turns out I could not have built the machine from scratch cheaper than buying it from Alienware. And it saved me a ton of work.


Thanks for the insight!
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February 18, 2014 2:10:41 PM

l337n00bh4x0r said:
You mean like this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, the monitor I was planning to buy it with only supports 1440 x 900 at max and honestly, I've had worse monitors and that's more than enough for me. I never wanted a completely crazy computer, just one that can run any game for the next few years (around 5) at Medium settings and be playable. If it's really going to be that bad like you said, maybe I should invest in this one. But are you sure it'd be that bad if I got the first choice I mentioned before? And I don't have the knowledge or the time to build a PC. If I want to, maybe I'll see if I can upgrade the one I end up getting down the line.[/msgquoted said:


It looks like I didn't see the first one you posted DID have a discrete card in it - however, yes, running a non-APU CPU gives you much better performance and down-the-road options, plus you can slap an aftermarket cooler on the 6300 and overclock it :)  The one you linked ($799) has an R9 270x in it, which should easily run things at that resolution, and you can maybe xfire it later if your MoBo / PSU support it. It's not a BAD deal.

The original PC from your first post WOULD run the newest games at low/medium, however, so the answer to your ORIGINAL question is : Yes.
]You mean like this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, the monitor I was planning to buy it with only supports 1440 x 900 at max and honestly, I've had worse monitors and that's more than enough for me. I never wanted a completely crazy computer, just one that can run any game for the next few years (around 5) at Medium settings and be playable. If it's really going to be that bad like you said, maybe I should invest in this one. But are you sure it'd be that bad if I got the first choice I mentioned before? And I don't have the knowledge or the time to build a PC. If I want to, maybe I'll see if I can upgrade the one I end up getting down the line.


It looks like I didn't see the first one you posted DID have a discrete card in it - however, yes, running a non-APU CPU gives you much better performance and down-the-road options, plus you can slap an aftermarket cooler on the 6300 and overclock it :)  The one you linked ($799) has an R9 270x in it, which should easily run things at that resolution, and you can maybe xfire it later if your MoBo / PSU support it. It's not a BAD deal.

The original PC from your first post WOULD run the newest games at low/medium, however, so the answer to your ORIGINAL question is : Yes.


Great! I'll try and get the money for the 2nd one but it's good to know that the 1st one will be alright if that doesn't work out. Thanks for your help!
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