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MSI Z87-G45 Gaming vs Asus Z87-A vs Asus Republic Of Gamers Maximus VI Hero

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February 20, 2014 10:21:08 AM

Which one is the best?

MSI Z87-G45 Gaming: €123,85
Asus Z87-A: €111,05
Asus Republic Of Gamers Maximus VI Hero: €169,94

And is that one worth it?

Thank you :D 

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February 20, 2014 10:27:50 AM

MSI Z87-G45 Gaming!
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February 20, 2014 10:32:29 AM

The only differences I can see are:
Asus has dual BIOS/UEFI and MSI has single
And some differences in card interface
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February 20, 2014 10:38:50 AM

You know what, leave Asus Republic Of Gamers Maximus VI Hero out of it because I don't have enough money for it...
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February 20, 2014 10:40:34 AM

Someone1 said:
You know what, leave Asus Republic Of Gamers Maximus VI Hero out of it because I don't have enough money for it...


Then go for MSI which i have
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February 20, 2014 11:14:27 AM

Can anyone else tell me why I should take the MSI instead of Asus or the other way around?
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February 20, 2014 11:15:45 AM

MSI z87-g45 and Asus z87-A pretty equal in terms of build quality, similar power design and similar overclockability, same amount of sata ports, usb ports etc... But G45 has way better sound chip and slightly better NIC. So I suggest G45 if you can't afford the HERO.
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February 20, 2014 11:28:28 AM

feelingtheblanks said:
MSI z87-g45 and Asus z87-A pretty equal in terms of build quality, similar power design and similar overclockability, same amount of sata ports, usb ports etc... But G45 has way better sound chip and slightly better NIC. So I suggest G45 if you can't afford the HERO.


But if I can affort HERO? Is that worth it?
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February 20, 2014 11:42:57 AM

If you are into some high-end overclocking and need more sata ports then Hero would be a better choice. Other than that G45 again has better sound chip in terms of SNR and NICs are pretty much similar.

For mild-overclocking around 4.3-4.4 GHz, G45 is enough.
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February 20, 2014 11:45:56 AM

feelingtheblanks said:
If you are into some high-end overclocking and need more sata ports then Hero would be a better choice. Other than that G45 again has better sound chip in terms of SNR and NICs are pretty much similar.

For mild-overclocking around 4.3-4.4 GHz, G45 is enough.


What can I overclock that high?! :D 
Because I'm going to take a i5 4670K
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February 20, 2014 11:50:08 AM

Well, you'll need a good cpu cooler though since Haswells run tad hotter.

With a budget cooler like Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo, 4.2 GHz is easily achievable. But that also related to your cpu chip. Some chips are golden for overclocking but some are like a stubborn lady. And what you get is just based on luck, a cpu lottery. :) 
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February 20, 2014 11:50:15 AM

I have the MSI Z87-G43 which is the little brother to the G45. I have mine OC'ed to 4.6 GHz and it runs great! Highly recommended!

Yogi
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February 20, 2014 11:50:20 AM

And I just saw that there is also a Asus Z87-Pro which is €5,- cheaper then Asus Republic Of Gamers Maximus VI Hero. Which one of those is better?
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February 20, 2014 11:53:14 AM

Hero is better.

Pro is just z87-A with 2 more sata ports and a wi-fi.
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February 20, 2014 11:56:36 AM

Okay thank you. But is it worth buying the Hero?
This is going to be my setup around the overclocking things:
Corsair Vengence 2x 8GB 1866MHz
MSI GeForce GTX 770 4GB Gaming
Intel Core i5 4670K
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

Say if you need other components
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February 20, 2014 12:08:13 PM

Someone1 said:
Okay thank you. But is it worth buying the Hero?
This is going to be my setup around the overclocking things:
Corsair Vengence 2x 8GB 1866MHz
MSI GeForce GTX 770 4GB Gaming
Intel Core i5 4670K
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

Say if you need other components


Like I said above:

If you are into some high-end overclocking and need more sata ports then Hero would be a better choice. Other than that G45 again has better sound chip in terms of SNR and NICs are pretty much similar.

Hero is better of course, but the prices change a lot between different regions. So I don't know what's the price differences between these boards where you live. But if you don't push some overclocking limits or gonna use 7-8 drives then it's not really worth to squeeze your wallet to get Hero.

Gigabyte G1.Sniper is also a solid board. Has slightly better components than G45 and Z87-A. Also Gigabyte z87x-ud3h is a really good board.

But all in all it's all about the price differences and your wallet. Between these boards just stay away from z87-A, then get which one best fits your wallet and needs.

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February 20, 2014 12:13:10 PM

feelingtheblanks said:
Someone1 said:
Okay thank you. But is it worth buying the Hero?
This is going to be my setup around the overclocking things:
Corsair Vengence 2x 8GB 1866MHz
MSI GeForce GTX 770 4GB Gaming
Intel Core i5 4670K
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

Say if you need other components


Like I said above:

If you are into some high-end overclocking and need more sata ports then Hero would be a better choice. Other than that G45 again has better sound chip in terms of SNR and NICs are pretty much similar.

Hero is better of course, but the prices change a lot between different regions. So I don't know what's the price differences between these boards where you live. But if you don't push some overclocking limits or gonna use 7-8 drives then it's not really worth to squeeze your wallet to get Hero.

Gigabyte G1.Sniper is also a solid board. Has slightly better components than G45 and Z87-A. Also Gigabyte z87x-ud3h is a really good board.

But all in all it's all about the price differences and your wallet. Between these boards just stay away from z87-A, then get which one best fits your wallet and needs.



Hero is €169,94 or 232.65 dollars
MSI is €123,85 or 169.55 dollars
And what are sata ports? Sorry, I'm kinda a noob in PC :) 
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February 20, 2014 12:24:42 PM

Through SATA PC runs HDD's, SSD's, optical drives
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February 20, 2014 12:27:56 PM

Ok, but now a summary, in what way is Asus Z87-A, MSI Z87-G45 and Asus Republic Of Gamers Maximus VI Hero the best?
Like:
Asus Z87-A has...
MSI has... better
But Asus ROG has... very good
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February 20, 2014 12:30:19 PM

MSI z87-g45 and Asus z87-A pretty equal in terms of build quality, similar power design and similar overclockability, same amount of sata ports, usb ports etc... But G45 has way better sound chip and slightly better Killer 2205 NIC
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February 20, 2014 12:33:10 PM

Ahmadjon said:
MSI z87-g45 and Asus z87-A pretty equal in terms of build quality, similar power design and similar overclockability, same amount of sata ports, usb ports etc... But G45 has way better sound chip and slightly better Killer 2205 NIC


Ok so from now on the MSI seems to be the best, but then the MSI vs Asus ROG?
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February 20, 2014 12:37:38 PM

The Hero is class above the other ones and should not even be compared to them especially when it comes to overclocking.
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February 20, 2014 12:37:52 PM

"Hero" Good audio same as G45, good CPU phases for better overclocking, 2 more SATA ports, it's ROG
"Z87-G45" Good audio same as Hero, built in quality, Killer E2205 LAN controller, slightly cheaper (price/performance)
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February 20, 2014 12:39:09 PM

Ahmadjon said:
"Hero" Good audio same as G45, good CPU phases for better overclocking, 2 more SATA ports, it's ROG
"Z87-G45" Good audio same as Hero, built in quality, Killer E2205 LAN controller, slightly cheaper (price/performance)


What is Killer E2205 LAN?
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February 20, 2014 12:42:07 PM

Ahmadjon said:
MSI z87-g45 and Asus z87-A pretty equal in terms of build quality, similar power design and similar overclockability, same amount of sata ports, usb ports etc... But G45 has way better sound chip and slightly better NIC


Nice copy paste. lol


@Someone1

I don't how to explain myself better.

If you don't plan to push some limits in overclocking and use more than 6 drives then it's really not worth getting Hero, especially if it will stress your wallet and it will make you spend less on food or your other needs for a while.

But if buying Hero won't have a slight effect on your budget, and especially you plan to push your cpu to some limits in overclocking like 4.6-4.7GHz with air cooling 7/24, then get Hero.

But note that; overclocking potential depends also on your cpu and getting a golden chip for overclocking is basically a luck. If you got one of those stubborn chips then even if you spend 1000 bucks on a motherboard you won't have a chance to get higher than 4.2-4.3GHz. But there are also some people with low-end boards around that overclock their cpus to crazy points at less voltage values.

So it's kinda double edged sword. :) 

But it should be easy to achieve 4.2GHz with a G45.
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February 20, 2014 12:42:35 PM

Someone1 said:
Ahmadjon said:
"Hero" Good audio same as G45, good CPU phases for better overclocking, 2 more SATA ports, it's ROG
"Z87-G45" Good audio same as Hero, built in quality, Killer E2205 LAN controller, slightly cheaper (price/performance)


What is Killer E2205 LAN?


It is a network chip that has multiple times the connection speed of your internet connection useful on local networks but not so on the web.
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February 20, 2014 12:45:21 PM

feelingtheblanks said:
Ahmadjon said:
MSI z87-g45 and Asus z87-A pretty equal in terms of build quality, similar power design and similar overclockability, same amount of sata ports, usb ports etc... But G45 has way better sound chip and slightly better NIC


Nice copy paste. lol


@Someone1

I don't how to explain myself better.

If you don't plan to push some limits in overclocking and use more than 6 drives then it's really not worth getting Hero, especially if it will stress your wallet and it will make you spend less on food or your other needs for a while.

But if buying Hero won't have a slight effect on your budget, and especially you plan to push your cpu to some limits in overclocking like 4.6-4.7GHz with air cooling 7/24, then get Hero.

But note that; overclocking potential depends also on your cpu and getting a golden chip for overclocking is basically a luck. If you got one of those stubborn chips then even if you spend 1000 bucks on a motherboard you won't have a chance to get higher than 4.2-4.3GHz. But there are also some people with low-end boards around that overclock their cpus to crazy points at less voltage values.

So it's kinda double edged sword. :) 

But it should be easy to achieve 4.2GHz with a G45.

YES :D 
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February 20, 2014 12:47:13 PM

rolli59 said:
Someone1 said:
Ahmadjon said:
"Hero" Good audio same as G45, good CPU phases for better overclocking, 2 more SATA ports, it's ROG
"Z87-G45" Good audio same as Hero, built in quality, Killer E2205 LAN controller, slightly cheaper (price/performance)


What is Killer E2205 LAN?


It is a network chip that has multiple times the connection speed of your internet connection useful on local networks but not so on the web.


So does it help me with gaming multiplayer games like BF4?
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February 20, 2014 12:48:22 PM

Someone1 said:
rolli59 said:
Someone1 said:
Ahmadjon said:
"Hero" Good audio same as G45, good CPU phases for better overclocking, 2 more SATA ports, it's ROG
"Z87-G45" Good audio same as Hero, built in quality, Killer E2205 LAN controller, slightly cheaper (price/performance)


What is Killer E2205 LAN?


It is a network chip that has multiple times the connection speed of your internet connection useful on local networks but not so on the web.


So does it help me with gaming multiplayer games like BF4?


YES
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February 20, 2014 12:48:34 PM

Is it easy to replace a motherboard? Because if I really need it I can buy a better one later...
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February 20, 2014 12:49:35 PM

Someone1 said:
Is it easy to replace a motherboard? Because if I really need it I can buy a better one later...


What do you mean by replace?
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February 20, 2014 12:51:02 PM

Buy another motherboard and put that one in the case while there is still one in when you've already build your pc, get it?
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February 20, 2014 12:54:07 PM

Ahmadjon said:
"Hero" Good audio same as G45, good CPU phases for better overclocking, 2 more SATA ports, it's ROG
"Z87-G45" Good audio same as Hero, built in quality, Killer E2205 LAN controller, slightly cheaper (price/performance)


Actually in terms of SNR, G45's Realtek ALC1150 is slightly better than Hero's whatnot supremefx. Even ALC898 is better. So I call it G45 has better audio chip for the money.
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February 20, 2014 12:54:41 PM

Someone1 said:
Buy another motherboard and put that one in the case while there is still one in when you've already build your pc, get it?


Then yes :) 
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February 20, 2014 12:58:02 PM

Thank you all so much! I think I'm going to buy the MSI for now
Just one last question :)  I saw that the Asus Z87-A that it had a dual UEFI and that the MSI Z87-G45 has a single UEFI, what does that mean?
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February 20, 2014 12:58:57 PM

And does Killer E2205 LAN help me with gaming? Or video editing/rendering?
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February 20, 2014 1:01:02 PM

Someone1 said:
And does Killer E2205 LAN help me with gaming? Or video editing/rendering?


Dual BIOS and E2205 will help you with online games only!
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February 20, 2014 1:01:24 PM

Or is the Asus ROG worth an extra 40 euros? I'm not going to overclock that high yet though...
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February 20, 2014 1:02:21 PM

Someone1 said:
Or is the Asus ROG worth an extra 40 euros? I'm not going to overclock that high yet though...


It's not worth!
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February 20, 2014 1:08:14 PM

I saw a comment on the MSI Z87-G45 saying that it has no PCI slots. It says this on the site: 4x PCI-e 2.0 x1, 3x PCI-e 3.0 x16. When do I use normal PCI slots? Or on which components so I can check?
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February 20, 2014 1:08:32 PM

Ahmadjon said:
Someone1 said:
rolli59 said:
Someone1 said:
Ahmadjon said:
"Hero" Good audio same as G45, good CPU phases for better overclocking, 2 more SATA ports, it's ROG
"Z87-G45" Good audio same as Hero, built in quality, Killer E2205 LAN controller, slightly cheaper (price/performance)


What is Killer E2205 LAN?


It is a network chip that has multiple times the connection speed of your internet connection useful on local networks but not so on the web.


So does it help me with gaming multiplayer games like BF4?


YES

Only on local network since it is bottlenecked by most internet connections just like my 300Mbps wifi adapter.
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February 20, 2014 1:22:46 PM

Someone1 said:
Thank you all so much! I think I'm going to buy the MSI for now
Just one last question :)  I saw that the Asus Z87-A that it had a dual UEFI and that the MSI Z87-G45 has a single UEFI, what does that mean?


Where did you see that z87-A had a dual bios? Because it doesn't have. None of the Asus Boards have it as far as i know. But in case of a failure you can just remove the bios chip and send it to Asus instead of mobo itself since most of Asus's bioses are not soldered to motherboard.
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February 20, 2014 1:25:07 PM

feelingtheblanks said:
Someone1 said:
Thank you all so much! I think I'm going to buy the MSI for now
Just one last question :)  I saw that the Asus Z87-A that it had a dual UEFI and that the MSI Z87-G45 has a single UEFI, what does that mean?


Where did you see that z87-A had a dual bios? Because it doesn't have. None of the Asus Boards have it as far as i know. But in case of a failure you can just remove the bios chip and send it to Asus instead of mobo itself since most of Asus's bioses are not soldered to motherboard.


Dual UEFI, not BIOS. MSI has a single UEFI. Is that good or bad? Asus ROG Maximus IV Hero has that too though...
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February 20, 2014 1:25:52 PM

But what components go in a PCI slot? So I can check...
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February 20, 2014 1:27:23 PM

PCI-E 3.0 X16 video cards, PCI-E X1 wireless adapters, expansion cards, sound cards
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February 20, 2014 1:28:45 PM

Ahmadjon said:
PCI-E 3.0 X16 video cards, PCI-E X1 wireless adapters, expansion cards


So I shouldn't have any problems with that? Because I'm not doing wireless. What do you mean with expansion cards?
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February 20, 2014 1:30:19 PM

Someone1 said:
Ahmadjon said:
PCI-E 3.0 X16 video cards, PCI-E X1 wireless adapters, expansion cards


So I shouldn't have any problems with that? Because I'm not doing wireless. What do you mean with expansion cards?


Definitely no problems!
Sound cards, USB 3.0 hubs, etc, etc.
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