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teutoniswolf

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Hello all, I get NewEgg and TigerDirect ads everyday in my e-mail to check on deals for barebones systems. I have been trying and trying the last few years to build a gaming system one by myself, and two for as little coin as possible without going over a budget. My budget can not be over let's say $650-$750. I know that sounds like a heck of a spread but I know that $100 here or there can really help make or break decent performance into the range of mid-realm.
This system would be used primarily for gaming. The games I play will be BF4, WoW and some other lower demanding titles like LOTRO and older titles that do not need that much horsepower to run. I also would like at some point to be able to do some live-streaming. I would need an OS and possibly a new keyboard although I already have a gaming keyboard but I am trying to keep this as low as possible without going over the $500 mark right now as money is really tight. I can always upgrade the monitor and keyboard later.

Here is the barebones kit I was looking at.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=8572911&sku=B69-0784

PSU: I know they are nothing to skimp on but this one does not have awful reviews it seems decent for now.
HDD: This one is a good sweet spot for space and I know a lot of people that have used it for their gaming builds and have never mentioned a bad thing about it.
Mobo: Have read a ton of reviews and have heard nothing bad about it. Only positive.
RAM: Seems enough to get the job done and is decent quality.
CPU: Have heard nothing but positives about this one, although I feel an FX 8320 may be a better solution but am not sure. Also I do not want to go APU.

Please give any feedback.

Thank you,
Danny
 
Solution
everything in that kit is great except for the PSU, that thing is really not good at all. But as a whole that is a killer deal, you're getting the whole thing half off pretty much (and it is in fact decent for the price)

since you need to buy other parts anyway I recommend selling it for another PSU.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake SMART 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE...
everything in that kit is great except for the PSU, that thing is really not good at all. But as a whole that is a killer deal, you're getting the whole thing half off pretty much (and it is in fact decent for the price)

since you need to buy other parts anyway I recommend selling it for another PSU.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake SMART 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $286.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

for the rest of the parts I recommend these:
an R7 260x, a pretty decent mid ranged card
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/02/05/amd-mantle-bf4-performance/3
you should be able to run high settings with Mantle turned on at 60+ FPS, so it's a pretty decent card for only 110 dollars, one of the better value/performance cards in that price range

550W Thermaltake SMART, this unit is actually pretty good and is on par with/better than respectable units such as the CX Corsair line, or XFX units, since the GTX 750Ti takes so little power to run (60W on average according to the review) it still has enough room to give your CPU a good overclock, which is why I also added the

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO, a great CPU cooler for it's price, it competes with coolers that are much more expensive than it. Downside is that it's big and bulky but hey money is more important in this case.

The rest is standard stuff

the whole thing will but you at a total of about 710 dollars (assuming you resell the PSU for about 20-30 dollars and get this one for 40), it's kind of the outer limit of your budget but you do end up with a quality system, you can scrap the CPU cooler for now and buy it later if you wish, but if you want to stream you should give your CPU an overclock
 
Solution
Includes monitor and Windows, and a 260x GPU. The build from Tigerdirect doesn't come with any type of video output.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($104.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.79 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.04 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($50.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: AOC E2425SWD 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $742.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-20 15:03 EST-0500)
 
I wouldn't get any of those barebone systems. They are always just trying to offload their poor selling items in bundles. The PSU in that system is junk. An easy way to tell is the little red voltage switch on the back. That means it doesn't have active PFC and should not be allowed anywhere near a PC. A quality PSU is the most important component to a stable, long living system. Once you add a GPU, OS, and optical drive to the system it really isn't a great deal. Here's a build at your budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($154.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7790 1GB Video Card ($112.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $648.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-20 15:06 EST-0500)