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GTX 750 TI, GTX 660 or HD 7850 2GB

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February 20, 2014 12:21:03 PM

Hi everyone, i was looking at some videos about the gtx 750 ti and i thought it can be a great upgrade to my igfx and it only has 60w tdp so i dont have to change my psu but then i read it was around 10-15% slower than a gtx 660 and also that its on par with the gtx 650 ti boost so that means the hd 7850 is also better. Before that i had decided to buy an r9 270 but the price raised way to much and im on a tight budget. What do you guys think i should get?
February 20, 2014 12:22:33 PM

what's your current PSU? The radeon HD 7850 would be the best choice out of those 3 but we'll need to know if your current PSU can run it
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February 20, 2014 12:25:59 PM

lmaonade200 said:
what's your current PSU? The radeon HD 7850 would be the best choice out of those 3 but we'll need to know if your current PSU can run it

i was only considering staying with this one for the 750 ti because i know this one wont be enough for the other two. My current psu is the 400w psu that comes with the cm elite 241.
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February 20, 2014 12:27:33 PM

ah a built in PSU, well in that case go for the GTX 750Ti, it's pretty decent as it is, you'll probably have to upgrade your PSU sooner or later though, built-in PSUs are not known to last
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February 20, 2014 12:31:31 PM

lmaonade200 said:
ah a built in PSU, well in that case go for the GTX 750Ti, it's pretty decent as it is, you'll probably have to upgrade your PSU sooner or later though, built-in PSUs are not known to last

I was already saving for another psu though, so im going to get the hd 7850 then. I was only considering the other one so i could buy something else. Thanks for the answer! :) 
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February 21, 2014 12:45:07 AM

khajiit2208 said:
lmaonade200 said:
ah a built in PSU, well in that case go for the GTX 750Ti, it's pretty decent as it is, you'll probably have to upgrade your PSU sooner or later though, built-in PSUs are not known to last

I was already saving for another psu though, so im going to get the hd 7850 then. I was only considering the other one so i could buy something else. Thanks for the answer! :) 


the new Maxwell architecture is truly amazing from a performance per watt perspective, you can even get the Evga FTW edition that is around 35% faster than a reference one with plenty more room to oc which closes the gap that the 7850 lead by, its a no brainer especially if the said 7850 is a 1gb edition card as the 750 ti is like $160 after rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... the resale value of the 750ti is also going to be better as it is like 3 days old and the the 7xxx series cards are approaching several years. if you are playing at 1080p and already plan on getting a new psu you should definitely save up a bit more and look for a cheap r9 270 or 7870/ gtx 760. I promise you, you wont regret it.
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February 21, 2014 12:45:09 AM

khajiit2208 said:
lmaonade200 said:
ah a built in PSU, well in that case go for the GTX 750Ti, it's pretty decent as it is, you'll probably have to upgrade your PSU sooner or later though, built-in PSUs are not known to last

I was already saving for another psu though, so im going to get the hd 7850 then. I was only considering the other one so i could buy something else. Thanks for the answer! :) 


the new Maxwell architecture is truly amazing from a performance per watt perspective, you can even get the Evga FTW edition that is around 35% faster than a reference one with plenty more room to oc which closes the gap that the 7850 lead by, its a no brainer especially if the said 7850 is a 1gb edition card as the 750 ti is like $160 after rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... the resale value of the 750ti is also going to be better as it is like 3 days old and the the 7xxx series cards are approaching several years. if you are playing at 1080p and already plan on getting a new psu you should definitely save up a bit more and look for a cheap r9 270 or 7870/ gtx 760. I promise you, you wont regret it.
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February 21, 2014 1:30:43 AM

750 ti has no competetion. If you want more power then only go for other gpu.
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February 21, 2014 4:52:10 AM

Gwamp said:
khajiit2208 said:
lmaonade200 said:
ah a built in PSU, well in that case go for the GTX 750Ti, it's pretty decent as it is, you'll probably have to upgrade your PSU sooner or later though, built-in PSUs are not known to last

I was already saving for another psu though, so im going to get the hd 7850 then. I was only considering the other one so i could buy something else. Thanks for the answer! :) 


the new Maxwell architecture is truly amazing from a performance per watt perspective, you can even get the Evga FTW edition that is around 35% faster than a reference one with plenty more room to oc which closes the gap that the 7850 lead by, its a no brainer especially if the said 7850 is a 1gb edition card as the 750 ti is like $160 after rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... the resale value of the 750ti is also going to be better as it is like 3 days old and the the 7xxx series cards are approaching several years. if you are playing at 1080p and already plan on getting a new psu you should definitely save up a bit more and look for a cheap r9 270 or 7870/ gtx 760. I promise you, you wont regret it.


35% faster than reference? maybe you are comparing another gpu to the 750 ti reference.
there is no factory oc and small tweaks to raise the performance that high ......

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as long as gtx 660 is cheaper or same price as hd 7850 that would be the best choice if you upgrade the psu to any 400w 80+ or higher.
example:

http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1222&gid2=...

http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=883&gid2=5...

gtx 660 may own only 192 bit but that's not a drawback at it's price range and competitors. only if you compare it to something like 7870 xt or gtx 760..
and a gtx 660 sli later brings almost same performance or even more than gtx 770

http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1745&gid2=...

of course those are only theoretic comparisons of the written data so the real life improvement will be lower than what's shown there as a percentage difference but is still satisfactory.
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February 21, 2014 10:30:28 AM

Sayken said:
Gwamp said:
khajiit2208 said:
lmaonade200 said:
ah a built in PSU, well in that case go for the GTX 750Ti, it's pretty decent as it is, you'll probably have to upgrade your PSU sooner or later though, built-in PSUs are not known to last

I was already saving for another psu though, so im going to get the hd 7850 then. I was only considering the other one so i could buy something else. Thanks for the answer! :) 


the new Maxwell architecture is truly amazing from a performance per watt perspective, you can even get the Evga FTW edition that is around 35% faster than a reference one with plenty more room to oc which closes the gap that the 7850 lead by, its a no brainer especially if the said 7850 is a 1gb edition card as the 750 ti is like $160 after rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... the resale value of the 750ti is also going to be better as it is like 3 days old and the the 7xxx series cards are approaching several years. if you are playing at 1080p and already plan on getting a new psu you should definitely save up a bit more and look for a cheap r9 270 or 7870/ gtx 760. I promise you, you wont regret it.


35% faster than reference? maybe you are comparing another gpu to the 750 ti reference.
there is no factory oc and small tweaks to raise the performance that high ......

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as long as gtx 660 is cheaper or same price as hd 7850 that would be the best choice if you upgrade the psu to any 400w 80+ or higher.
example:

http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1222&gid2=...

http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=883&gid2=5...

gtx 660 may own only 192 bit but that's not a drawback at it's price range and competitors. only if you compare it to something like 7870 xt or gtx 760..
and a gtx 660 sli later brings almost same performance or even more than gtx 770

http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1745&gid2=...

of course those are only theoretic comparisons of the written data so the real life improvement will be lower than what's shown there as a percentage difference but is still satisfactory.


Don't link hw compare or game debate to prove your point. Real world performance is completely different, and you must not have looked at benchmarks. in bioshock infinite the 750ti FTW only fell two frames below the average of a r7 270x, who is silly enough to immediately go to a 660 sli? Where's his upgrade path? 35% more power sound a lot to you? Because the difference between a 750 and the 750ti is even more
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February 21, 2014 12:05:28 PM

lol that makes complete 0 sense. if there was such huge difference we would see 300fps at max of most games.
of course it can have great impact on a few games but all of them are optimized differently. apps and games differ so that's where it can matter or not.
don't you go telling me about 35% real life difference between a reference card and ftw evga (same version just better cooler and factory oc) cause I am going to puke.
of course game debate got lotsa things wrong and ain't that trustworthy but their theoretical differences between gpus are made correctly at least and sometimes a 10% real life performance increase can be really huge -.- (I am not talking about fps increase if you think I mean like 10% more fps from example 40 = 44. I am not talking about that).
"Don't link hw compare or game debate to prove your point."
maybe they make huge unforgiveable mistakes at times but still they are more trustworthy than someone's personal opinion pls. and I use examples from websites mixed with experience so I won't get replies like get lost without proof.
I never said there is no difference between 750 and 750 ti... don't acuse me with your imagination XD more than 35%? ok.. O_O
what is wrong with gtx 660 ? O_O
if you unsatisfied with it go blame nvidia not me :( (
and I never said immediately go sli. if he wants in future he can go sli with it (if he doesn't intend to sell it).
why do some people acuse me of what I don't write at all? :( (
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February 21, 2014 12:15:21 PM

generally, when comparing reference models a stock 7850 would be about on par with the GTX 660s on average, so on average a 7850 would be better than a GTX 750Ti, which performs at about 80-90% of a GTX 650Ti Boost in games.

Nvidia cards in general perform better in Bioshock Infinite so it's pretty unfair just to pull one number from a specific instance out, a GTX 660 would outperform an R9 270x in that game (instead of almost reaching it like a GTX 750Ti FTW model does), so why not recommend the GTX 660 in that case?

as a whole out of the 3 video cards that OP listed, the GTX 660 and the 7850 are the better GPUs, and between those 2 7850s can often be found for cheaper (maybe not anymore because AMD cards are expensive as hell)

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February 21, 2014 12:43:31 PM

+1
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February 21, 2014 1:15:39 PM

this is getting out of hand, you say "game debate got lotsa things wrong and ain't that trustworthy - maybe they make huge unforgiveable mistakes at times " and you use them as a cite.

I was writing on my phone bioshock infinite was just an example plenty of other benches to look at goo nuts. Difference in Firestrike extreme was like 300 or so points. The ONLY reason i was recommending to the op the 750 ti is because i thought he was trying to save money and the maxwell chip runs on a 300w psu

And if you cant wrap your mind around that much of a power jump you obviously dont overclock, overclock/net got their 750ti stable at 1420 on air thats a 39% core clock improvement.
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February 21, 2014 1:41:07 PM

Gwamp said:
this is getting out of hand, you say "game debate got lotsa things wrong and ain't that trustworthy - maybe they make huge unforgiveable mistakes at times " and you use them as a cite.

I was writing on my phone bioshock infinite was just an example plenty of other benches to look at goo nuts. Difference in Firestrike extreme was like 300 or so points. The ONLY reason i was recommending to the op the 750 ti is because i thought he was trying to save money and the maxwell chip runs on a 300w psu

And if you cant wrap your mind around that much of a power jump you obviously dont overclock, overclock/net got their 750ti stable at 1420 on air thats a 39% core clock improvement.


if you had read anything in this thread at all you would've seen that I DID recommend the GTX 750Ti on the account of his PSU being a low grade built in, with the GTX 750Ti he wouldn't have to worry about a low quality PSU frying his graphics because the 750Ti gets all its power from the PCIe slot. But just because it is more convenient and exciting of a component does not mean you get to cherry pick information to suit your argument. There are in fact plenty of benchmarks, but many of them place the 750Ti below the 660 and the 7850.

OP never said he was trying to save money and has also said that he would save up for whatever he concluded was the best solution for his system. So presumably I would recommend what I feel is the best out of the 3 he has listed.

so I'm wrapping my mind around various things such as you being a dick for no reason at all.
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February 21, 2014 2:00:19 PM

he just thinks arrogance will get him somewhere but sadly it won't..
and gwamp even gamesdebate has more truth than what your fingers type on keyboard without any proof or at least explanation. is like those arguing with books (did they write something better to complain?heck noooo) + dunno what you are arguing about but it seriously has nothing to do with what is written in previous posts.
nor did I say 750 was bad choice nor did I ever say your recommandation was wrong.
only thing which I found ridiculous was that you mentioned same card reference was 35% weaker than evga ftw which is only factory oced. I didn't mention the further oc you do at home.
well sorry I mentioned that at all. looks like some misunderstand and get offended my bad.
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February 21, 2014 3:21:20 PM

I'm sorry man but I stopped reading after your comment about the psu. A low wattage psu won't fry a gpu.. It just won't power it, down clock or if the system is really underpowered it won't boot. You must have attained all your PC knowledge from game debate I guess, stop taking game debate seriously and stop replying to me. Op, if your buying a new psu save your money and try to find a 7870 or nvidia equivalent I've seen some ghz editions on shop BLT for $200. Spend a bit more now you'll spend much less later Best of luck
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February 21, 2014 3:33:36 PM

You know what, you said low quality not low wattage. I Take it back and give my apologies maybe Im being an overly defensive dick haha. I don't even remember how this started to be honest, so once again, sorry for the unnecessary jabs. This being said I still hate game debate and all of its theoretical comparisons haha
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February 21, 2014 3:38:21 PM

if someone only gains knowledge from a website cause that's all you think ........ oh well whatsoever.
not replying to you btw. you are an unimportant factor in this thread. the topic is what the title states not you... not that I care about you either o.o
well since no reply from op best of luck and good night ^.^
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February 21, 2014 5:56:18 PM

Gwamp, I don't have a dog in this fight but you're being a jerk and it discredits whatever argument you're trying to make, as well as the job your parents did raising you.
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February 24, 2014 1:35:02 AM

Gtx 660 is Better Than Both .
Actually The Hd 7850 & Gtx 650 Ti Boost Both Are Perform Similar.
In PhysX Supported Games The GTX 650 Ti Boost is a Better Performer Than Hd 7850 .

* Hd 7850 = Gtx 650 Ti Boost ( Some Games The Hd 7850 Is Better Than Gtx 650Ti Boost Like Crysis-3 But Its Only About 4 to 6 Fps)
** Gtx 650 Ti Boost > Hd 7850 At Physx Supporting Games. ( "Greater than" - " > ")

*** Gtx 660 > Hd 7850 = Gtx 650 Ti Boost > Gtx 750 Ti

Gtx 660 Can Handle Much AA & AF Than Gtx 650 Ti Boost , Hd 7850 & Gtx 750 Ti.
So In My Opinion You Should Go For Gtx 660 Above Them .
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February 24, 2014 2:39:20 AM

paul is right :) 
but it completely depends on what games he plays and which programs he utilizes.
as well depends on the price. I wouldn't recommend paying more than 20$ (maximum) for a gtx 660 just because the cuda cores are a bit better stabilized and the physx allows higher performance in a few games o.O some shops go selling hd 7850 for 150$ and gtx 660 at 210$ which is complete ridiculous . There are lotsa games and programs (is not like pc is meant only for gaming) out there where physx can make it worse than normal that I can make a whole list.
gtx 660 sounds more promising because later you can simply stick another in and there you have a gtx 660 sli. is more advantageous cause it won't draw as much power and cause as much heat and stuttering as sli gtx 770, 780.. can. (750 ti sli "would" (but is not possible :( ( ) be mouth drool ... only 60w for a card :3)
anyways both are good cards and it won't make that much of a huge difference which you buy. (except in a few games and programs which are only on a small scale).
here a comparison (if someone complains about websites cause he dislikes them/ hates them he should stick his opinion in his ass lol is not like I can satisfy everyone honestly / if you find something wrong correct it and prove it ! don't just go equipping the sword and shield and getting ready for fight ...)

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7850-vs-GeForce-GTX-6...

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/549?vs=660

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/crysis-2-1080p-ultra-gt...

"on far cry 3 hd 7850 is better on bf3 gtx 660 is better"

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-gef...

http://www.hwcompare.com/13303/geforce-gtx-660-vs-radeo...
("Please note that the above 'benchmarks' are all just theoretical - the results were calculated based on the card's specifications, and real-world performance may (and probably will) vary at least a bit. ")

cheaper gpu wins :D 
well did gtx 660 ti become an extinct race? O_O
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