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February 20, 2014 10:46:20 PM

hi, my current build is:
1-core i5-2400 @ 3.10GHz (measured speed-3084MHz, turbo-3393MHz)
256 kilobyte primary memory cache
1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache
6144 kilobyte tertiary memory cache
64-bit ready
Multi-core (4 total)
Not hyper-threaded

2-RAM total=8GB
Slot 'DIMM3' has 4096 MB corsair DDR3 SDRAM PC3-12800
Slot 'DIMM1' has 1024 MB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-10600
Slot 'DIMM4' has 1024 MB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-10600
Slot 'DIMM2' has 2048 MB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-10600
(any suggestions on this ram config? i'm no expert)

3-GPU NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 AMP 2GB

4-PSU Corsair VS650

5-HDD SEAGATE 1TB + WD 512GB(C: )

the motherboard is very old and the case is broken.
(i bought the pc in 2010end but i kept modifying it.)

now i was looking forward to make a new build by using some of my old components
i think i could use the
-Corsair 4GB RAM,
-VS650 PSU,
-GTX 650 GPU,
-1TB HDD,
-Optical drive
as they are good as new.

after searching for while i'm thinking of:
1-CASE: NZXT PHANTOM 410
2-SSD: SAMSUNG 840 EVO SATA III 250GB
3-CPU: Intel core i7-4770k (pretty expensive though)
4-cooling: Cooler Master hyper TX3 (800-2800rpm)
(cooling should be more than enough right? because i dont have a high end GPU)

NOW,
the problem is that i cant figure out the correct compatible motherboard for this build. i have searched in pcpartpicker.com,newegg.com,etc,etc but they all have so many of them and i keep getting confused. i just dont wanna waste my money on something i wont need but i would surely want sata 6Gbps ports and lot of usb2 ans usb 3 ports.
i'm new to this stuff and all these terms are new to me, so any suggestions would be very helpful. also please correct me if i'm buying the correct cpu and case. and also if i will be needing any other component that i might have forgotten.
thanks!

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February 20, 2014 10:48:51 PM

So you want a new case, ssd, cpu and mobo. What's your budget?
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February 20, 2014 11:54:09 PM

woltej1 said:
So you want a new case, ssd, cpu and mobo. What's your budget?


i don't have a fixed budget, i could go as far as 500$. but please don't suggest according to my budget because i don't live in america or europe so my currency is not dollars. all the parts would probably be more expensive and less available in my country.

i have some questions:
-do you think i should go with my older gpu ie gtx 650 or should i buy a better one (i will probably modify it later this year.)
-do you think i have installed my ram in the correct order in my current build? I read that ram gives better performance when installed in the correct order like dual channel but i have a random memsticks (1gb+2gb+2gb+4gb)
-i also came across AMD and found the FX-8350 to be half the price and 8 core(2times of 4770k). so should i go with it? and if i get an AMD, then will i require better cooling than the hyper tx3?
please suggest a motherboard and cooler for AMD fx8350 also if you think i should got with it.
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February 21, 2014 12:27:46 AM

Here you go.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($113.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($78.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Other: SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black
Total: $487.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-21 03:26 EST-0500)
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February 21, 2014 2:35:13 AM

AxlFone said:
Here you go.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($113.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($78.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Other: SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black
Total: $487.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-21 03:26 EST-0500)


is this motherboard compatible with i7-4770k?.....and are the rear usb3 ports compatible with usb2 devices also? i need usb 2 compatible sockets atleast 6
i will also be needing a the hyper tx3 cooler right?
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February 21, 2014 3:04:15 AM

Ash Aggarwal said:
AxlFone said:
Here you go.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($113.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($78.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Other: SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black
Total: $487.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-21 03:26 EST-0500)


is this motherboard compatible with i7-4770k?.....and are the rear usb3 ports compatible with usb2 devices also? i need usb 2 compatible sockets atleast 6
i will also be needing a the hyper tx3 cooler right?


Yes. 4770k is working fine with this mobo. Tx-4 is not maybe best cooler but sure you can use that.
212 EVO is better if it fits to case. Or thermalright

USB 3 works with USB 2 fine.

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February 21, 2014 5:50:00 AM

ok so i searched for the prices of the following config you provided, and in my region it is:

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor =264.58$
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard =not availabe (only GA-Z87X-OC is available worth 296.76$
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk =116.54$
Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case =126.28$
Total =804.16 :(  :(  i wish i lived in america

anyway i have some questions:
-do you think i should go with my older gpu ie gtx 650 or should i buy a better one (i will probably modify it later this year.)
-do you think i have installed my ram in the correct order in my current build? I read that ram gives better performance when installed in the correct order like dual channel but i have a random memsticks (1gb+2gb+2gb+4gb)
-i also came across AMD and found the FX-8350 to be half the price and 8 core(2times of 4770k). so should i go with it? and if i get an AMD, then will i require better cooling than the hyper tx3?
please suggest a motherboard and cooler for AMD fx8350 also if you think i should got with it.
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February 21, 2014 11:30:26 AM

Here is all FX CPU.
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/cpu/#s=23

Here is build with FX cpu.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($114.97 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($78.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Other: SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black
Total: $526.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-21 14:19 EST-0500)

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-do you think i should go with my older gpu ie gtx 650 or should i buy a better one (i will probably modify it later this year.)


Yes. You can upgrade new gfx later. Better is buy good mobo + cpu first.

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-do you think i have installed my ram in the correct order in my current build? I read that ram gives better performance when installed in the correct order like dual channel but i have a random memsticks (1gb+2gb+2gb+4gb)


I have 8+4+2+2GB memory and it works fine (ny nobi is Gigabyte X-79 UD3 cpu is 3930k)
Better is have pairs but you do not lose much performance, But sure buy new memory kit when yo ucan find one with cheap price.

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-i also came across AMD and found the FX-8350 to be half the price and 8 core(2times of 4770k). so should i go with it? and if i get an AMD, then will i require better cooling than the hyper tx3?


AMD is not faster cpu than intel 4770k. It just do have 8 cores. (or 6 or 4)
Intel is better. 4770k do have HT + 8Treads.
Look this. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/697?vs=551

If your build is for gaming you do not need 4770k go with 4670k it is fast enough for gaming.







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March 8, 2014 10:19:56 AM

AxlFone said:

If your build is for gaming you do not need 4770k go with 4670k it is fast enough for gaming.



Thank you very much AxlFone for answering all my questions, u helped a lot man thanks!

The 4670k u are suggesting is an i5 while the 4770k is an i7. when i compared these....
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processor-compar...
Here, both i5 4670k and i7 4770k are quad core and at same base speed, the only difference between them is the #threads, i7 has 8 while i5 has 4 and yet there is quite a price difference btw the 2. so,
-what is the significance of this #thread here?
-how does it affect performance so much? http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/836?vs=837
-the 'k' stands for unlocked right? so i can overclock only the ones with 'k' suffix?

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/836?vs=837
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