AMD fx-8350+r9-290 vs i7-4770k+gtx770

Romenfousek · Feb 21, 2014

fx-8350: 236 dolars
r9-290: 542 === 778
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i7-4770k: 412
gtx 770: 395 === 807
(Prices in our country)

Hello everyone !
I have two choices: The AMD one and Intel on. Please no fanboyism..
That 30 dolars difference don't matter much, but I will build my gaming rig.
Main purpose Gaming>Streaming>Rendering.
The cpu cooler: Evo 212
Mobo for AMD: GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3
Mobo for Intel: MSI Z87-G43

And also it would be good if it can live 4-5 years and be quite future proof

1080p And atleast +50fps

I want to ask you three questions
1) How much Ghz could I get with those setting with Amd and Intel ?
2) Which build would better for me ?
3) How big psu would I need with Amd and Intel ?

Thank Y'all !

vmN · Feb 21, 2014

Both are just as good, so what do you want a stronger CPU or a stronger GPU?
(note: dont consider the fx 8350, instead consider the fx 8320)

1: AMD 4.3-4.7, intel 4.3-4.5. (This is really useless information, as Intel would processes faster at same or even lower clockspeed of a fx 83x0)
2: See the top line.
3: 600w should be more than fine for both-

Romenfousek · Feb 21, 2014

vmN :

Ok, So you think that 8320 with mobo listed above and evo 212 would take 4,8 ghz and live for 4 years ? Or 8350 would do that better ? I know that it is just oc'ed 8320, but i was told it is highly binned or whatever i don't really understant ^^

vmN · Feb 21, 2014

Might need a better cooler.
The difference you can archive between 8320 and 8350 with overclocking is like 50000000Hz(note this is like 0.05Ghz)

ZeroRequiem · Feb 21, 2014

Get at least a 750W PSU for the AMD build. My 650W PSU couldnt support an R9 290 with an i7 (which uses less W than the FX)

vmN · Feb 21, 2014

Why do I doubt that?
Sure it wasn't because of a bad PSU?

Romenfousek · Feb 21, 2014

Well I see I'll get 750wbronze. But still I can't decide if intel or amd build..

Novuake · Feb 21, 2014

ZeroRequiem :

Maybe you had a bad PSU?

Because 600W is more than enough.

If this is a gaming build then either go I5 4670K + R9 290 or FX 8320 + 290.

ZeroRequiem · Feb 21, 2014

vmN :

Nope the PSU was brand new, used it with an HD6850 before i've bought the R9 290. Problem is under full load the R9 290 draws more power than 300W (could reach ~385W for a couple of miliseconds).
Also note that the FX processor will draw more power than the intel so it's crystal clear that 600W with the AMD build wont be enough.

Romenfousek · Feb 21, 2014

ZeroRequiem :

vmN :

Nope the PSU was brand new, used it with an HD6850 before i've bought the R9 290. Problem is under full load the R9 290 draws more power than 300W (could reach ~385W for a couple of miliseconds).
Also note that the FX processor will draw more power than the intel so it's crystal clear that 600W with the AMD build wont be enough.

750wbronze

Novuake · Feb 21, 2014

ZeroRequiem :

You are sorely missinformed.

So lets go with the 385W ceiling you mention for the power usage.

Do you REALLY think a 125W CPU and rest of a system can draw then OTHER half of the 600W?

Geez dude, wake up. Do the math. You must have had a bad PSU.

Novuake · Feb 21, 2014

ZeroRequiem :

You are sorely missinformed.

So lets go with the 385W ceiling you mention for the power usage.

Do you REALLY think a 125W CPU and rest of a system can draw then OTHER half of the 600W?

Geez dude, wake up. Do the math. You must have had a bad PSU.

ZeroRequiem · Feb 21, 2014

As I remember the FX 8350 reviews here on TH, under load the 8350 draws around 200Watts. Recalculate please.

Novuake · Feb 21, 2014

ZeroRequiem :

So 385W + 200W = ??? 585W...

Still good on 600W if you have a quality power supply as should ALWAYS be the case.

Not to mention your system would almost NEVER get there for any more than a few seconds at most.

ZeroRequiem · Feb 21, 2014

Yes 600W is enough if you have an empty case with a CPU and a GPU in it. But not only these 2 components need power I hope you know that, not to mention what happens if OP wants to OC. I wonder.
Don't try to save money on the PSU, you'll regret it.

Romenfousek · Feb 21, 2014

Novuake :

Ok but if my system takes of 585 W, then I would need atleast 700 Watt psu right ? Because the efficiency is lesser than 90%..

Novuake · Feb 21, 2014

ZeroRequiem :

Actually that 200W you mentioned about Toms hardware review of the 8350. That is COMPLETE system consumption - graphics card.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-16.html

Look dude. Cut your losses. I do not want to argue with you and on top of that you are arguing with nothing but empty air at your back.

Novuake · Feb 21, 2014

Romenfousek :

Efficiency does not work like that.

Lets say a quality power supply has a rated wattage of 1000watt and an efficiency percentage of 90%.

That means to deliver the rated 1000W the PSU would need to draw 1100W from the wall socket to deliver 1000W.

The rest of that 100w dissipates in heat and vibration.

When looking at PSUs, that is not the only thing to consider, you need to make sure that the unit you are getting is quality and is actually capable of delivering the rated wattage.

For example MOST Seasonic manufactured PSUs are actually capable of doing MORE than their rated wattage, but not when they get too hot.

There really is a lot to consider and the simplest thing to do is just get something that is KNOWN to be quality.

Novuake · Feb 21, 2014

If you want to be safe, get a 650W. Anything more than that is a waste.

ZeroRequiem · Feb 21, 2014

Okay then let OP use a 600W PSU it's okay. Let's watch him killing that PSU. You'll take responsibility I guess.
Even for a quality 650W PSU I couldn't say for sure that it will be okay let alone 600W. Just spend like 10$ more on a 750W pase and you will be safe, AND you will be able to OC your processor (unlike with a 600W PSU.)

Also on Sapphire's site the recommended PSU for the R9 290 is 750W. I know they always recommend a bit higher PSU because of the crappy ones.

Romenfousek · Feb 21, 2014

Looks like I go for 750 watts anyway, but it is bronze certification. Is it okay ?

hjkfhiken · Feb 21, 2014

Might need a better cooler.

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