Rebroadcasting wireless network under different SSID and switching to ad-hoc network if disconnected

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Hi everyone, I am looking to see what hardware I would need to accomplish the follow:

Let's say there is a wireless network with the SSID "Alpha". I would like to have a device connect to "Alpha" and rebroadcast the connection under a new network with the SSID "Beta". That means that if I connect to the internet by joining the Beta network.

If there is a disruption and the Alpha network is down, I would still like the Beta network to still be up and connected as ad-hoc network. I would have multiple devices connected to Beta. Even if these devices cannot connect to the internet (because Alpha is down), I would still like them to be connected to each other.

Is there anything like this?
 
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Just from a first look the hawking device does appear to do what you want. They make it so confusing though since the box can run in multiple modes.

There was another post a few weeks ago from someone who was saying those lights would jam the ability of a android device to see and networks in some cases. If they are similar to the ones that time there was some form of interface box that the lights talk to they did not talk to the router directly. The phone talked to the router that then connected via cable to the interface box which then talked to the lights using another wireless channel. I never did figure out if they actually run 802.11 protocols of if they just use the same frequencies.

I would recommend because of this as...
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What you are looking for is a true repeater that uses 2 different radios one to talk to the main router and a second to provide services to end users. These are hard to find buried under all the $29.99 cheap crap repeaters that only value price. Even vendors who used to sell good repeaters have gone to selling the single radio ones because all the idiots who only look at price.

The only ones that I still know of are used for outdoor use and are costly. If you go looking for one the key words to look for are backhaul since that is the general term they use for the connection between the main router and the device.

You are best off building your own. What you need is a client-bridge...many of the cheap repeaters can do this but you do not want to let it repeat the wireless. Then you need a AP or pretty much any router to talk to the end users. You would use the client-bridge to talk to the main network and the AP to communicate with your clients. In this case I would recommend a router if you get really stuck and the main network does not fully support WDS for bridging the bridge unit will only allow a single mac address. In that case you will need to hide all your other devices behind the single mac address of a router.
 
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Thanks for your answer!

So you are saying I need two devices, an access point and a repeater (set up as client-bridge), and connect them together? Are there any guides online that can provide me with more details? What other keywords would be useful if I need to search for them myself? I am pretty tech-savvy but this might be beyond my scope.

The most important thing is I need to rebroadcasted network (Beta) to remain up even if the original network (Alpha) is down. I have these wifi-enabled light bulbs and I would like to be able to connect my iPhone to the Beta network and control the lights via UDP commands even if Alpha is down and my iPhone cannot access the internet.

Would something like this be what I am looking for?
http://www.amazon.com/Hawking-Technology-Radio-Repeater-HW2R1/dp/B002SYUP60
 
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Just from a first look the hawking device does appear to do what you want. They make it so confusing though since the box can run in multiple modes.

There was another post a few weeks ago from someone who was saying those lights would jam the ability of a android device to see and networks in some cases. If they are similar to the ones that time there was some form of interface box that the lights talk to they did not talk to the router directly. The phone talked to the router that then connected via cable to the interface box which then talked to the lights using another wireless channel. I never did figure out if they actually run 802.11 protocols of if they just use the same frequencies.

I would recommend because of this as well as running 2 networks for the repeater you try to leave the 2.4 network for this purpose and run all your PC and other stuff on a 5g channel off the main router.
 
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