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So I don't really have a firm budget on this one, but would like to avoid ridiculous expenses. I do a lot of video editing with Adobe Premiere, and am also looking to get out of console gaming. Would like to be able to run the latest games without any compromise. Star Citizen, Battlefield, and really anything out there, while leaving room run an SLI setup in the future as well as some light overclocking, if need be. Here is what I have pieced together so far:

Memory: Sniper Series 32GB PC3-14900 Quad Channel DDR3 Kit, Black (4 x 8GB) $319.99 on New Egg
Power Supply: Corsair RM Series RM850 Modular Power Supply $159.99 on New Egg
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD5H w/ DDR3, 7.1 Audio, Dual Gigabit Lan, 1394, CrossFireX / SLI $219.99 on New Egg
GPU: GeForce GTX 780 Ti Superclocked 3GB PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort $720.00 On New Egg
CPU: Core™ i7-4770K Processor, 3.50GHz w/ 8MB Cache $339.99 On New Egg
SSD: Samsung 840 EVO Series Solid State Drive, 250GB $156.99 On guess where!
Storage: Western Digital 2TB Black SATA III Hard Drive w/ 64MB Cache $149.99 on New Egg

Thanks in advance for your experienced advice :)
 
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There is no such thing as a simply Quad channel kit, any 4 stick set can be run in quad or dual... Each sttick of DRAM is individual and runs at 64 bit, when placed in pairs under a dual channel MC they all operate at 128bit, in true quad channel the MC see them as 256bit devices is all (same applies to running in tri-channel there they are seen as 192 bit devices)....If you take 1 stick out of a 4 stick set it will run exactly the same as a single stick from a one stick package. The quad channel you see is simply referring to the fact that it can run in quad channel mobos....When DRAM is made all the sticks come off the assembly line and they are broken down and tested to work together, you might pull 24 sticks out and only fine...
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What may seem ridiculous to some, doesn't to many of the rest of us, many folks need the power from this type system
 
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Thanks for your input. The Asus hero looks like a pretty great value, however I am leaning toward the UD5H for additional USB 3.0 ports (I have 6 scratch disks I use for video editing). Additionally, freaking gold heat spreaders!!!!!
 
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Looks like the thermal issue has been cleared up, but while researching that side of things, I stumbled on some info about how the RM series does employ some cheap Taiwanese capacitors on the load side. This causes excessive voltage ripple and inconsistent power output. Thanks for the heads up. I will read up on your recommendation.
 
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And that memory is quadchannel. Better go for Dualchannel. Not better, actually you will have to go for Dualchannel
+ Don't settle for CAS 10 1866MHZ. Go for CAS 9
I am getting almost same build except for the motherboard.
 
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Is quad channel better for my board? Mandatory for my board?
I have read quad channel is better because the RAM is manufactured and tested to work together at maximum performance in a kit.
 
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Ok, I think I got this now. So my RAM slots are color coded by channel. I should go buy 2 dual channel kits, and place one matching set in the black channel, and one matching kit in the grey channel. Correct?
 
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The DRAM you picked is perfectly fine and will run in dual channel since you have a dual channel CPU and mobo - if whatever it is that Soumil is saying had any factual basis then 1150 mobos could only have two slots, DRAM doesn't care what it runs on, it's the MC (memory controller) that makes the determination.....and what ou read is correct, it's always best to buy a single package of DRAM as that way they are all tested to work together, and in addition the XMP programming is by the packaged set, if you were to get two sets of two sticks for example, each package might call for a advanced tRFC timing of 128, where a 4 stick package will call for a tRFC of 208, so if you want to use XMP to set up your sticks, you'll want a 4 stick package, else you may be right back here looking for help to get the two packages to play together, and there's no guarantee they will play nice
 
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Since the sets are tested on what they are meant to run on, it will be better to go for them? No?
Quadchannel kits still won't benefit on Dualchannel boards even after using XMP..
2 kits of 2x8GB(SAME) put together won't generate any problems..
 
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I am going to liquid cool it, so nope. Won't block anything.
Infact If I end up making a custom loop, I will liquid cool the motherboard as well..
Unless that Aluminium thing has any problem
 
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There is no such thing as a simply Quad channel kit, any 4 stick set can be run in quad or dual... Each sttick of DRAM is individual and runs at 64 bit, when placed in pairs under a dual channel MC they all operate at 128bit, in true quad channel the MC see them as 256bit devices is all (same applies to running in tri-channel there they are seen as 192 bit devices)....If you take 1 stick out of a 4 stick set it will run exactly the same as a single stick from a one stick package. The quad channel you see is simply referring to the fact that it can run in quad channel mobos....When DRAM is made all the sticks come off the assembly line and they are broken down and tested to work together, you might pull 24 sticks out and only fine maybe two complete sets of 4 sticks that will play together, the rest are broken down to 1, 2 or 3 stick sets...it takes more testing to find4-6-8 sticks groups that all play nice which is why those cost more (say a 4 stick set) than would two 2 stick sets...and as said mixing sets even of the same exact model can be problematic, the forums are full of people having troubles because they have mixed sets such as you suggest, might want to talk to the DRAM manufacturers or even the mobo manufacturers, they'll tell you the same exact thing
 
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Decent! If you have the extra money I'd get a second 780 Ti depending on what monitor you're using to game on.
 
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I would agree to you. But two dual channel kits have very less chances of having trouble with as well. But they might cost a bit more.
And yes, quadchannel kits are compatible with dualchannel as well.
 
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Not true, mixing two dual channel kits can be problematic, a four stick set is tested for all four to play together - if you buy two sets of the same exact model, they might not play and aren't guaranteed to play together, also if you take that route, some of the DRAM manufacturesrs won't let you RMA two sets if they don't play together, they only guarantee the sticks by the package. Further, since it's a GSkill set in question, check their website on this particular set and you will find they have certified it to run on many more dual channel mobos than they have on quad channel mobos, and this will be true of basically all their 4 stick, sets.....I also am an Admin on the GSkill tech forums and know most all of their sets in depth
 
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I see. They are termed as multichannel kits.
4770k has 25.6gb/s bandwidth. Does that bottleneck anything?
Like I heard that dualchannel 1600mhz 16gb ram requires 14.9gb/s and so 32gb will require twice?
Would that bottleneck RAM?
 
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