Confused about PWM fans and MoBo fan connectors.

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Hello,

Do I need PWM fans if I have enough MoBo fan head connectors on my MoBo? For an example I have an ASUS Z87-A Motherboard. It has fan control on it as a software program so long as the fans are connected to the motherboard. Do I not need PWM fans if this is the case?

Also to get a little more confusing, Can I connect two fans onto one 4 pin motherboard fan connector? Is there some sort of splitter for fans? If I have 8 fans and only 4 Motherboard fan connectors how do I connect them all to my motherboard?

Sorry super confusing! But if anyone has any answers that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
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PWM fans also are known as "4-pin fans" because they have 4 wires to the motor (and hence 4 pins on their connector). If your mobo fan port(s) has 4 pins, you really ought to connect a PWM 4-pin fan to it. If you were to connect a 3-pin fan to that port, most likely that fan would run at full speed all the time and NOT be under mobo automatic control - this would be the same as connecting such a fan directly to a power output from the PSU.

Your mobo may have both 4-pin and 3-pin fan ports. For any 3-pin port you should use a 3-pin fan. But if you connect a 4-pin fan to a 3-pin mobo port, it WILL work under automatic control - that's the backward compatibility feature of the new design. It just will not be absolutely ideal for a small...

veladem

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If you feel you have too many fans, check your PSU for molex (Ancient...) + 3pin connectors, if your PSU has connections for both, then proceed to check if your fans come with adapters, mine did, if not you can buy the adapters for fairly cheap.

If you really want to get into a controlled fan system I would suggest a fan controller with enough connection, I wouldn't completely suggest putting all the fans straight on the board, some/most/as many as possible, sure, but for the most control a fan controller is key.
 

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I guess it depends on how hot your system runs and how much fan noise you can tolerate. They do make y-cables and multi-splitter cables that allow you to connect 2 or more fans to a single header. Some have a molex power connector to provide additional power for the fans. Google PWM Fan Splitter Cable.
 

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PWM fans also are known as "4-pin fans" because they have 4 wires to the motor (and hence 4 pins on their connector). If your mobo fan port(s) has 4 pins, you really ought to connect a PWM 4-pin fan to it. If you were to connect a 3-pin fan to that port, most likely that fan would run at full speed all the time and NOT be under mobo automatic control - this would be the same as connecting such a fan directly to a power output from the PSU.

Your mobo may have both 4-pin and 3-pin fan ports. For any 3-pin port you should use a 3-pin fan. But if you connect a 4-pin fan to a 3-pin mobo port, it WILL work under automatic control - that's the backward compatibility feature of the new design. It just will not be absolutely ideal for a small technical reason. So one way to look at this is to say you can ALWAYS plug a 4-pin (PMW) fan into either a 3-pin or a 4-pin mobo port and it will work.

You CAN connect 2 fans to one mobo port in general using an adapter. The limit on this is the large start-up current for a fan, and a "rule of thumb" is that most mobo fan ports can start up 2 fans, but maybe not 3 or more.

There is one other consideration, here. One of the wires (the third line) on both 3- and 4-pin fans carries a pulse signal of the fan's speed from the fan motor back to the mobo for counting. If you connect two fans together in parallel on all lines to one port, the mobo ends up receiving two simultaneous series of pulses, and cannot figure it out. So when 2 fans are connected to one port, only ONE of the fan's speed signals on line 3 should be connected; the other fan's speed line should NOT be connected.

This adapter:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812162026

does the job well. It connects 2 PWM (4-pin) fans together to one mobo port, even making sure that only ONE of those fans feeds its speed signal back - note the missing pin #3 on one of the connectors. What it does not mention is that you could also use this to connect a pair of 3-pin fans to a mobo 3-pin port.

Personally, I prefer to use automatic control of the fans through mobo ports. A third-party fan controller allows you to control each fan exactly as you wish, because you set each speed manually. BUT that also means that YOU MUST set those speeds. As your computer's workload changes and heat generation changes, it is up to YOU to decide when and how much to adjust fan speeds.

Automatic control by the mopo ports, on the other hand, uses a temperature setpoint and a measured actual temperature to adjust fan speeds to keep the measured value at the setpoint as heat generation changes. Usually there are two separate temperature control "loops" like this. The first is for the CPU: it uses a temp sensor built into all CPU's, and it controls the only fan connected to the CPU_FAN port, so you should ALWAYS connect the CPU cooler only to this port. The second uses a temp sensor built into some spot on the mobo - spot chosen by the mobo maker - and it controls one or more of the mobo SYS_FAN port(s). In each case, typically the mobo BIOS uses info on the CPU installed and other mobo features to set the setpoint for each control loop.

If you have a 3-pin fan port labelled "PWR_FAN", this is NOT an automatic fan control port. It is intended for use with some PSU's (not all) that have a 3-wire set coming out for connection to this special mobo port. Its only function is supposed to be to feed a speed signal from the PSU's internal fan to the mobo for monitoring; it does not actually control the PSU's fan.
 
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Wow thanks for the feedback guys I really appreciate it! This helps out a lot. PWM fans cost more than regular fans which was the main issue I had to decide on what to get. It makes sense now what the choice is. Thanks again!