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I'm planning on buying a new gaming desktop. I don't want to build one. The Alienware x51 I'm thinking of getting will has 4th gen i7, 16 gb ram, and Nvidia GTX 760 ti. How many fps will I get? Is there a better PC for the same money? (1800 USD)
 
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Like this! this will run almost everything on ultra
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87g45gaming
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml16gx3m2a1600c9
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te120bw
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx780dc2oc3gd5
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cp9020054ww
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k
This would be an awesome build just choose the case you like and you'll have 80~90 FPS on almost all modern games and the price is lower than 1800$
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Alienware is horrible value for money.Don't do it. Also games are very GPU bound these days. Your fps will depent highly on your GPU. That PC has a midrange GPU at a premium price. A pre-built PC good get you literally three times the performance for that kind of cash. I can't suggest any alternative to you, because I don't know the US market for pre-builts, but whatever you do, don't get that Alienware. 95% of all pre-builts are horrible crap that prey on the ignorant, but there are some fair deals out there. As I am not from the US, I can't help you to find one, but I'm sure someone else will chime in and make some helpful suggestions.
 
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TheRainbowWarrior

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Thank you, what current PC are you using?

 
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Like this! this will run almost everything on ultra
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87g45gaming
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml16gx3m2a1600c9
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te120bw
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx780dc2oc3gd5
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cp9020054ww
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k
This would be an awesome build just choose the case you like and you'll have 80~90 FPS on almost all modern games and the price is lower than 1800$
 
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I built my own PC some 3,5 years ago. Cost me around 600€, but I reused a PSU I got from an older PC. I then upgraded the GPU for another 440€. It has an i5 2500k, 8GB RAM and an overclocked GTX 780. The total cost was 1000€ plus the PSU I took over from the last and that PC would get much much better performance than yours, because the GPU is much stronger. Also the parts I bought back then are cheaper now, which makes it even more cost efficient.

I don't think that information is much help to, since you don't want to go custom built (it is easier than you'd think though and you gain a lot of valuable information on the way). If you want a pre-built ask around for a good company first. Dell and Alienware will never give you a good deal. Important things to look out for in a pre-built are the case (if a large GPU fits in it for upgradeability), the PSU (pre-builts often come with PSUs so weak, you'd get more power from a hot potato) and of course a strong GPU. Better an older i5 or an 6xxx or 8xxxx series AMD than a weak GPU.
 
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Thank you for the sources, but how difficult is it to build your own PC? I'm a beginner with this...
 
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If you had to pick a pre-built company to buy from, what would you choose?
 
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It's really easy. One of my friends built a PC when he was 12.... and he had no prior experience with PCs xD
 
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If you had to pick a pre-built company to buy from, what would you choose?
 
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It isn't difficult at all I built mine according to reviews and it works fine, i provided you a links and in this site you can browse parts and prices, just watch reviews and see what suits your budget good information here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.html
 
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Never believe to sellers and companies and NEVER buy complete PC from anywhere! custom build will be more cost effective for you!!!
 
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dude, don't listen to these guys, if an alienware is what you want, that's what you want. that is incorrect that dell has horrible offers. there is online coupons that you can use to get a good deal, don't try this at home without them. also, dell has good deals sometimes and bargains, i remember buying a dual xeon with a thousand dollar knock off instantly without any coupons. lastly, if you don't know how to build a computer it's really up to you if you want to get a pre built. i find that pre builts are more reliable cause you can accidently fry a part or so with a custom build and that would be catastrophic. i have fried multiple parts and always prefer pre builts as they are more reliable. also, you never know if the part is DOA from newegg and such. dell and alienware and such companies also use name brand parts so you don't have to worry.

side note: alienware is a nice company to deal with if that's what you want. can't beat the name alienware and their cases and how it looks. you get what you pay for. your on the right track, so don't believe these guys, they obviously don't know what their talking about.
 
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How did you fry multiple parts? All my friends build their PCs themselves and none ever managed to fry anything. How do you even do that nowadays? The parts a designed so that things only fit where they are supposed to fit. If it fits you are doing it right, if not, you are doing it wrong. Did you hammer them in there? The only tricky part is applying the thermal past and installing the cooler. Worst case, you check your temps, realize you fucked up and try again. You can even buy complete sets with CPU and RAM installed, which basically means all you need is to know how to operate a screw driver. Also if you believe Dell and Alienware offer good deals for gaming PCs, please just show me one. I've never seen them.
 
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+1
 
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dude, it happens, it was a rare situation. i just happened to fry them on accident. some parts stopped working after a while too. i found that i have less problems with prebuilts. and look for yourself online, there is coupons without hundreds of dollars knocked off, plus you get a piece of mind, customer support is better with dell then having to rma a part to a company such as newegg. also, i just gave you a nice example that i had a thousand dollar knock off with a dual xeon system. so evidently your not paying attention and don't know what your talking about.

original poster: don't believe these guys, they obviously are not paying attention. and there's always the risk of frying a part. i know it might be rare but it happens, you get a peace of mind when you buy prebuilt, at least in my experience. as i said, your on the right track. also, games are graphics bound more then anything, so if you feel you have to upgrade your graphics in the future, then so be it. i really don't know what that guy is talking about not being able to upgrade, i mean how many things do you need to upgrade? your wasting money obviously.
 
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I don't know what i'm gonna go for now, to be honest I'm sort of thinking of building it, maybe with the help of a friend or something. I like the idea of building it because $1800 is a lot of money, and at that price I want to get the best for my money... 16 GB ram for example doesn't really cut it for me. A few of my friends have built computers and they spent less then $1200 on them. Thank you all!
 
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Don't be scared of building it- We're all beginners at some point! With the help of your friends, who know what they're doing, it'll be extremely easy.

As for what alienworkshop said: You'll almost NEVER fry a part. Even though, sometimes, prebuilts are good deals, they are practically never good deals for gaming computers. I have yet to see a fairly priced gaming computer.

Either way, Good luck!
 
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lol, i spent less then 300 on my e3300 celeron computer (i already had a monitor from my dual xeon system) and it competes with other computers since it can overclock high. (currently waiting for another mobo since i fried my other one) who says you have to have the latest cpu? 1,200 is really high for a system, i would not pay that much for a custom build. games are graphics bound, i could go into more detail of why that's good but i am lazy. if you want bang for the buck and are gaming then try getting a higher graphics card with a little less cpu power. if you want to save cash somewhere. as for me, i don't need a good graphics card cause i only play warcraft 3. best game out so far. lol. i'm planning to get a sli motherboard for my prescott (nocona based, same thing, just named nocona) xeon cpu's since they are still fast even today. you can run as much as programs as you want without it slowing down. i know a guy running a pentium d with a nice graphics card and he says he can play all the games he wants on high settings. personally i would never spend good money like 1,200 on a system if i was building it. just doesn't make sense to get useless parts if you don't need it. with all that said, if i had the money i would buy a prebuilt like alienware, it's just so much more simpler and safer. but if that's too much money then i'd see where your coming from. still these guys are lying to you. i only buy best bang for the buck and not skimp out on performance.

just my two cents.
 
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dude, isn't a 1,000 dollar knock off for a dual xeon system good? another reason why i don't support new cpu's is because intel did price cuts and made the pentium m into the "i" series. it was cheaper to manufacture the large caches on the pentium m which is a pentium 3 based cpu, then it was to continue the pentium 4/5 route with netburst. lousy way to do business right? and no i don't work for dell for your information. i just happen to find always good deals with dell, sometimes you have to wait for them, and i don't know if they still have deals like that but i do know that they use to. it was just a suggestion since i always got good deals.

i'm not biased or anything, i have prebuilts myself, so you really can't say i don't know what i'm doing, but still to each their own. personally, i find pre builts just more exciting since you know what your getting instead of random parts. you get what you pay for. and i found benchmarks of a e5200 beating a fx 8320 by 1 percent for single threaded apps. and the amd is clocked at 3.5 while the e5200 is clocked at 2.5, also, you got to take into account that the e5200 cost less since you can find it next to nothing on ebay, and you can overclock it to very high speeds to catch up, i'm not sure if the 8320 overclocks that good. all i know is that e5200 overclocks like a beast. again, i only buy bang for the buck stuff. comparing an old e5200 to a newer fx 8320 is just unfair also. still going strong after so many years when i bought it.
 
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also, there is a reason why graphics cards are easily upgradable dude, it's a myth you need the latest processor. seriously and if he's not using anything and just using normal everyday use like internet explorer, then why not go and buy a turbo for your car or someting instead of spending money like that, lol. if he's that concerned about spending too much money on a computer.
 
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