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February 23, 2014 11:20:16 PM

hi all

what is the best 4k gaming monitor within 500$

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February 23, 2014 11:25:14 PM

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February 23, 2014 11:26:48 PM

4k gaming monitor?

The cheapest and best 4k monitor is Asus PQ321 with resolution of 3840 x 2160p and it costs 2600 dollars off Amazon.

The next is Dell UP2414Q which is 1200 dollars.

Now if you're talking about a 2560 x 1440p resolution that might be a bit different.

You can get Crossover's monitors pretty cheap for 350 to 500 dollars but I don't know if they are worth it or not.

Your best bet would be Asus PB298Q for 480 dollars off Amazon.

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February 24, 2014 12:05:44 AM

so Dell UltraSharp U2713HM is not a 4k monitor ?
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February 24, 2014 12:09:18 AM

oudmaster said:
so Dell UltraSharp U2713HM is not a 4k monitor ?


No. 4K is by definition 3840 x 2160
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February 24, 2014 12:09:52 AM

oudmaster said:
so Dell UltraSharp U2713HM is not a 4k monitor ?


No, its qHD
It has four times as many pixels as the 720p

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February 24, 2014 12:18:07 AM

ok, last question, is GTX 780 TI alone able to handle 3840 x 2160 resolution ?
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February 24, 2014 12:19:06 AM

oudmaster said:
ok, last question, is GTX 780 TI alone able to handle 3840 x 2160 resolution ?


No.

No single GPU can handle this resolution.

Sorry.
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February 24, 2014 12:39:28 AM

Bassim Ansari said:
oudmaster said:
ok, last question, is GTX 780 TI alone able to handle 3840 x 2160 resolution ?


No.

No single GPU can handle this resolution.

Sorry.


and how many of GTX 780 TI do you think will be fit to 4k resolution ?
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February 24, 2014 12:48:10 AM

oudmaster said:
ok, last question, is GTX 780 TI alone able to handle 3840 x 2160 resolution ?


You can see fps while playing Battlefield 4 with Gtx 780 ti at 4K resolution
http://blogs.windows.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/communitys...

1st pic- medium setting
2nd pic- high settings
3rd pic- ultra settings

"I discovered that the GTX 780 Ti can handle BF4 in a single-GPU/card config no problem. At medium settings, BF4 was North of the 60 FPS boundary that I consider to be the threshold of meaningful human perception. To see what would happen, I turned graphics setting up to ultra, and still was able to get 30 FPS. Amazing!"


To read full review of Gtx 780 ti, click on this link
http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/extremewindows/archi...
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February 24, 2014 12:53:43 AM

Theoretically playing at less than 60 fps is no go for me.

They are people who claim that acceptable frame rate is 30 fps but I don't think it's as smooth.

Anyways, I seriously doubt that Gtx 780ti could replicate the same results on games such as crysis 3 on very high settings to ultra settings.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/07/nv...
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February 24, 2014 1:06:56 AM

ok, so let us say if I purchased Dell UP2414Q and two GTX 780 TI using SLI Tech, then I should be very fine playing on 3840 x 2160 !?
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February 24, 2014 1:10:25 AM

oudmaster said:
ok, so let us say if I purchased Dell UP2414Q and two GTX 780 TI using SLI Tech, then I should be very fine playing on 3840 x 2160 !?


No that's very iffy.

Not because of the performance but because SLI is not tailored yet to such high resolutions because it would not economically feasible for most people.

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/unlocked/4k-resolutio...

Look, games like Crysis 3 offer no benefits of 2 X SLI 780ti while games like Bioshock Infinite do.

It really depends on the game, but at the moment even SLI is not the answer for most games at such high resolutions because of lack of people demanding scaling at such high resolutions.

the link I gave above should answer most of your questions.
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February 24, 2014 1:34:35 AM

oudmaster said:
ok, last question, is GTX 780 TI alone able to handle 3840 x 2160 resolution ?


Only if you turn off AntiAliasing and lower a few settings.
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February 24, 2014 1:59:18 AM

Dell UltraSharp U2713HM is a 27 inch monitor with QHD resolution (2560x1440).
This is already a much smaller pixel pitch (i.e. more pixels per inch) than a 24 inch monitor with FHD resolution (1920x1080).
The GTX 780 Ti will be able to hit 60 FPS at 2560x1440 with some settings reduced from maximum.

4K resolution is not necessary at standard monitor sizes. The Dell UP2414Q is only a 24 inch monitor.
You will have to reduce settings dramatically, which will end up looking worse than the QHD monitor.
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February 24, 2014 5:53:37 AM

The plain fact of the manner that everyone here has failed to mention is that all current 4K monitors do NOT support refresh rates higher than 60Hz @ 4K resolutions. If you step down the resolution to 2560 x 1440 (or other variant resolution lower than 4K) then you can game at higher refresh rates. Also, with H-IPS monitors @ 4K, the response times are HUGE. Usually a minimum of 12ms and usually more, versus only 6-8ms @ 2560 x 1440. Also, there is currently not one single 4K monitor that is a true single tile monitor. Even the coveted Asus ASUS PQ321Q uses a tiled display. IMHO, it is too early to adopt any 4K monitor for gaming until a true single tile 4K monitor is released with new IPS technology that does not exhibit the response time delays associated with current IPS technology and comes equipped with both HDMI 1.5 and DisplayPort 1.3 for the higher bandwidth requirements of 4K. DisplayPort 1.3 allows for the support of dynamic refresh rates as well as Nvidia's G-Sync technlogy. If you are able to live with 6-bit color, then I would highly recommend you get the Asus ROG SWIFT PG278Q ($799) 2560 x 1440 120Hz 1ms G-Sync TN panel monitor when it is released later this year:

http://www.asus.com/us/News/xXtX0FNhXQWPrry7

Or if you want H-IPS, then the Overlord Tempest X270OC ($519):

http://overlordcomputer.com/collections/27-monitors/pro...
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February 24, 2014 1:13:53 PM

Ninjawithagun said:
The plain fact of the manner that everyone here has failed to mention is that all current 4K monitors do NOT support refresh rates higher than 60Hz @ 4K resolutions. If you step down the resolution to 2560 x 1440 (or other variant resolution lower than 4K) then you can game at higher refresh rates. Also, with H-IPS monitors @ 4K, the response times are HUGE. Usually a minimum of 12ms and usually more, versus only 6-8ms @ 2560 x 1440. Also, there is currently not one single 4K monitor that is a true single tile monitor. Even the coveted Asus ASUS PQ321Q uses a tiled display. IMHO, it is too early to adopt any 4K monitor for gaming until a true single tile 4K monitor is released with new IPS technology that does not exhibit the response time delays associated with current IPS technology and comes equipped with both HDMI 1.5 and DisplayPort 1.3 for the higher bandwidth requirements of 4K. DisplayPort 1.3 allows for the support of dynamic refresh rates as well as Nvidia's G-Sync technlogy. If you are able to live with 6-bit color, then I would highly recommend you get the Asus ROG SWIFT PG278Q ($799) 2560 x 1440 120Hz 1ms G-Sync TN panel monitor when it is released later this year:

http://www.asus.com/us/News/xXtX0FNhXQWPrry7

Or if you want H-IPS, then the Overlord Tempest X270OC ($519):

http://overlordcomputer.com/collections/27-monitors/pro...


You make it sound like supporting 120 Hz is some critical feature of a monitor. The monitors with the best image quality are IPS or PLS panels and these don't support 120 Hz. The Dell UP2414Q he was looking at supports 3840 x 2160 at 60 Hz and a refresh rate of 8 ms GtG. This will result in some ghosting, but nothing too extreme. I don't think input lag would be a big issue either.

The tiled display is supported from a single display port connection. Why is this such an issue?

As I said before, the main reason for not buying a 4K display is that the current video cards can't produce this resolution with high detail settings and frame rates and do not support SLI for 4K resolution. The reduced graphics settings necessary for this resolution mean the 4K monitor will look worse than a QHD monitor.

Edit: I just had a look at that "tempest" monitor you linked. The reason no legitimate manufacturer has released a 120 Hz IPS monitor is because the IPS response time is too slow for 120 Hz. This looks like some computer shop using an overclocked IPS panel. 120 Hz may improve responsiveness and image blur, but it is hardly a necessity.
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February 24, 2014 11:50:19 PM

great info thanks,
so better is to play next two years on full hd monitor and ultra settings and then wait for a better solution for 4k resolution !
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February 25, 2014 2:11:32 AM

oudmaster said:
great info thanks,
so better is to play next two years on full hd monitor and ultra settings and then wait for a better solution for 4k resolution !


I think most of the suggestions were to choose QHD (2560x1440) for now. Full HD is only 1920x1080.
These are pretty much your options (my examples are all 27 inch monitors):

1. 1920x1080 monitor, 1 to 2 ms response time, 120 Hz or 144 Hz refresh. This is the best option for reduced motion blur and input lag. These use a TN panel which has faster response time but picture quality and viewing angles are not as good. Examples Asus VG278H, or VG278HE, BenQ XL2720T or 2720Z. You can also get 24 inch versions of these monitors which will look better because of the smaller pixel size, but the screen size is smaller too of course.

2. 2560x1440 monitor, 5 to 8 ms response time, 60 Hz refresh. This is the best option for picture quality. These use an IPS or PLS panel which has better image quality and viewing angles, but slower response time. Examples Asus PB278Q, Dell U2712HM.

3. 2560x1440 monitor, 1 ms response time, 120Hz refresh. Similar to option 1, but higher resolution. Asus PG278Q is the only example currently, and this is due to be released in the next couple months. They claim a high quality TN panel. You can expect much better image quality than option 1, but maybe not as good as option 2. Benefit over option 2 is reduced motion blur and input lag.

4. 2560x1440 IPS panel over clocked to 120 Hz. Claiming to have the benefits of option 1 and 2. None are available from major manufacturers. IPS panel still has slower response time so 120 Hz is of questionable value. None of the review sites have done a thorough review on picture quality. I think these are best avoided.

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February 25, 2014 3:06:53 AM

very nice explanation VincentP,
it is clear,

question here please, if you play or watch 1080p game or movie on QHD monitor,
will it be a problem ?
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February 25, 2014 3:46:29 AM

oudmaster said:
very nice explanation VincentP,
it is clear,

question here please, if you play or watch 1080p game or movie on QHD monitor,
will it be a problem ?


This is not the native resolution of the monitor, so it will not look quite as a good as a 1920x1080 monitor for 1920x1080 content.
For a 1080p movie, the media player will scale the movie to the desktop resolution (2560x1440) so this will work with any monitor.
For a full screen 1920x1080 game, the monitor does the scaling. There are some 2560x1440 monitors that can't do this and show the 1920x1080 content with black borders. The Dell U2713HM and Asus PB278Q can both scale 1920x1080 to full screen, but with some loss of clarity.
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February 25, 2014 9:42:25 AM

I was checking amazon and I got this monitor ASUS PB278Q,
it looks very well, 1440p 120hz and 580$
it is 2014 and looks cool
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February 25, 2014 12:26:11 PM

I think it's a good choice. Picture quality is very good. A single GTX 780 Ti will give you an average of at least 60 FPS with this monitor in any game. You shouldn't need anti-aliasing at this resolution. You will generally need to enable v-sync to avoid screen tearing where the graphics card is rendering more than 60 FPS.
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February 25, 2014 7:07:18 PM

The overlord cited earlier has great color. Its not a 1.07b, but the colors are worlds away from my 22 fhd led. Note there is a slight light bleed. If you're looking for the best /cheapest 4k out there, its the 24" dell @ 1050 usd (180ppi, 1.07b with professional calibration), there are some 28" tn's out there that do 30fps, but I wouldn't suggest them unless you're colorblind and hate first person shooters, racing games, and webbrowsing.
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