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February 25, 2014 5:21:44 PM

Hello as the title says my temps on my h100i are insane. I used to be able to run it at 4.4Ghz at 90c now I plugged in the CPU pump and the fans to the h100i and at stock it runs at 100c max! Am I doing anything wrong? My mobo is a Vi Formula if that helps

Correction, my CPU gets up to 4.6GHz and goes to 100c in prime 95. Should I go down to 4.3 even though I may never reach those temps?
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February 25, 2014 5:35:02 PM

first, make sure the fans are ramping up with temps by setting a profile curve in corsair link. then make sure your pump is pumping by feeling the tubing or it has a light on the front, it has proper power.

then it could be you didn't tighten it down enough or too much, or too much thermal paste. I did redid my cooler 3 times to get it right with pressure and thermal paste and i'm like 15c cooler. improper thermal paste or too much pressure can cause havok.

Why cooler did you replace it with?
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February 25, 2014 5:45:52 PM

Hi, those temps are on the way high side @4.4Ghz with a Corsair H100i. What are your fan speeds at that temperature? What program do you use to monitor your fan speed? I have a i7 3770K at 4.4Ghz and I idle at 30 and my temps have never gone over 70 Celsius under load. Prime 95 is more of a burn in/ stability test, no game know to man with put that much stress on your CPU. I would focus more on the temperatures you'd see under normal circumstances like gaming. You could also remove and re-apply your thermal paste. There might be too much TIM or the unit might not be seated properly.
Try some gaming benchmark programs like Heaven Benchmark
http://unigine.com/products/heaven/
3DMark
http://www.3dmark.com/
And see if you still have high CPU temperature running those.
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February 25, 2014 5:46:28 PM

That matches my chip's characteristics pretty well. I can get it to go 4.5Ghz @ 1.35v, but it sits at 100C under full load.

Ivy Bridge is not Haswell, can't do a direct comparison to an i7-3770k.
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February 25, 2014 5:52:48 PM

tinmann said:
Hi, those temps are on the way high side @4.4Ghz with a Corsair H100i. What are your fan speeds at that temperature? What program do you use to monitor your fan speed? I have a i7 3770K at 4.4Ghz and I idle at 30 and my temps have never gone over 70 Celsius under load. Prime 95 is more of a burn in/ stability test, no game know to man with put that much stress on your CPU. I would focus more on the temperatures you'd see under normal circumstances like gaming. You could also remove and re-apply your thermal paste. There might be too much TIM or the unit might not be seated properly.
Try some gaming benchmark programs like Heaven Benchmark
http://unigine.com/products/heaven/
3DMark
http://www.3dmark.com/
And see if you still have high CPU temperature running those.


I used prime95 with an h100i running at 100% fan speed and my CPU ramped up to 100c. I would delid it but I'm scared if I'll break the processor. It's still very bad temps with an h100i, maybe I got a bad cpu, bad cooler, or bad thermal solution
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February 25, 2014 5:56:16 PM

I thought I read somewhere that some Asus intel boards have an issue with the blackplate and the cooler and having to put spacers in it to get it sit properly since asus did some boards different. Can't recall but seem to remember reading that somewhere in a thread.
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February 25, 2014 5:57:57 PM

I applied around a pea sized drop of Arctic Silver 5 into the cpu and put on the block. Tightened it down just to the point where my thumbs couldn't twist anymore. But I heard less is more according to thermal paste application
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February 25, 2014 6:25:07 PM

All I'm saying is Prime is not meant to represent the amount of stress you PC will see in everyday use. Some heavy gaming will be the true test of you PC's thermal threshold and weakness. Test it the same way your going to use it and unless you intend to do some very heavy benching and overclocking I would not use prime for more than a few hours to test stability. Haswell, Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge or otherwise.
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February 25, 2014 6:34:43 PM

tinmann said:
All I'm saying is Prime is not meant to represent the amount of stress you PC will see in everyday use. Some heavy gaming will be the true test of you PC's thermal threshold and weakness. Test it the same way your going to use it and unless you intend to do some very heavy benching and overclocking I would not use prime for more than a few hours to test stability. Haswell, Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge or otherwise.


Thank you for that and now... What's a max safe temp my cpu should be at? 75? 85? 95?
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February 25, 2014 6:54:25 PM

ScribbleMike said:
tinmann said:
All I'm saying is Prime is not meant to represent the amount of stress you PC will see in everyday use. Some heavy gaming will be the true test of you PC's thermal threshold and weakness. Test it the same way your going to use it and unless you intend to do some very heavy benching and overclocking I would not use prime for more than a few hours to test stability. Haswell, Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge or otherwise.


Thank you for that and now... What's a max safe temp my cpu should be at? 75? 85? 95?


Its personnel preference i think me personally wouldn't want the cpu to go over 75c max load but your cpu will run less stable and have less lifespan at higher temperatures. your cpu will throttle at around 100c to prevent damage to the unit. I also agree prime 95 does put alot of extra stress on your system than your pc would normally have to cope with but that's y its a good stability test! Its strange i thought the h100i would cool alot better than this there is defiantly something wrong. The die is not soldered on the hazwell and uses tim and silicone glue in between the IHS this may be the problem that's y i said it might be a good idea to delid the CPU and clean and replace the tim.
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February 25, 2014 6:59:13 PM

Jessepog said:
ScribbleMike said:
tinmann said:
All I'm saying is Prime is not meant to represent the amount of stress you PC will see in everyday use. Some heavy gaming will be the true test of you PC's thermal threshold and weakness. Test it the same way your going to use it and unless you intend to do some very heavy benching and overclocking I would not use prime for more than a few hours to test stability. Haswell, Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge or otherwise.


Thank you for that and now... What's a max safe temp my cpu should be at? 75? 85? 95?


Its personnel preference i think me personally wouldn't want the cpu to go over 75c max load but your cpu will run less stable and have less lifespan at higher temperatures. your cpu will throttle at around 100c to prevent damage to the unit. I also agree prime 95 does put alot of extra stress on your system than your pc would normally have to cope with but that's y its a good stability test! Its strange i thought the h100i would cool alot better than this there is defiantly something wrong. The die is not soldered on the hazwell and uses tim and silicone glue in between the IHS this may be the problem that's y i said it might be a good idea to delid the CPU and clean and replace the tim.


I am planning on that really soon, is the vice and hammer method any good? Oh and does rendering stress the cpu as much as Prime95?
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February 25, 2014 7:20:49 PM

ScribbleMike said:
Jessepog said:
ScribbleMike said:
tinmann said:
All I'm saying is Prime is not meant to represent the amount of stress you PC will see in everyday use. Some heavy gaming will be the true test of you PC's thermal threshold and weakness. Test it the same way your going to use it and unless you intend to do some very heavy benching and overclocking I would not use prime for more than a few hours to test stability. Haswell, Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge or otherwise.


Thank you for that and now... What's a max safe temp my cpu should be at? 75? 85? 95?




Its personnel preference i think me personally wouldn't want the cpu to go over 75c max load but your cpu will run less stable and have less lifespan at higher temperatures. your cpu will throttle at around 100c to prevent damage to the unit. I also agree prime 95 does put alot of extra stress on your system than your pc would normally have to cope with but that's y its a good stability test! Its strange i thought the h100i would cool alot better than this there is defiantly something wrong. The die is not soldered on the hazwell and uses tim and silicone glue in between the IHS this may be the problem that's y i said it might be a good idea to delid the CPU and clean and replace the tim.


I am planning on that really soon, is the vice and hammer method any good? Oh and does rendering stress the cpu as much as Prime95?


Yes rendering is very cpu intensive probably very close to prime 95 you can test this with cinebench. This is a cpu render benchmark tool. Yes from what ive herd the vice method is the easiest method for deliding your cpu.

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February 25, 2014 7:31:40 PM

Jessepog said:
ScribbleMike said:
Jessepog said:
ScribbleMike said:
tinmann said:
All I'm saying is Prime is not meant to represent the amount of stress you PC will see in everyday use. Some heavy gaming will be the true test of you PC's thermal threshold and weakness. Test it the same way your going to use it and unless you intend to do some very heavy benching and overclocking I would not use prime for more than a few hours to test stability. Haswell, Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge or otherwise.


Thank you for that and now... What's a max safe temp my cpu should be at? 75? 85? 95?




Its personnel preference i think me personally wouldn't want the cpu to go over 75c max load but your cpu will run less stable and have less lifespan at higher temperatures. your cpu will throttle at around 100c to prevent damage to the unit. I also agree prime 95 does put alot of extra stress on your system than your pc would normally have to cope with but that's y its a good stability test! Its strange i thought the h100i would cool alot better than this there is defiantly something wrong. The die is not soldered on the hazwell and uses tim and silicone glue in between the IHS this may be the problem that's y i said it might be a good idea to delid the CPU and clean and replace the tim.


I am planning on that really soon, is the vice and hammer method any good? Oh and does rendering stress the cpu as much as Prime95?


Yes rendering is very cpu intensive probably very close to prime 95 you can test this with cinebench. This is a cpu render benchmark tool. Yes from what ive herd the vice method is the easiest method for deliding your cpu.



Is it worth doing if I get a massive temp decrease? Planning to use coollaboratory liquid ultra now for both the die and heatsink. Sorry for bugging, just really scared about this and still want that temp decrease
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February 25, 2014 7:41:54 PM

ScribbleMike said:
Jessepog said:
ScribbleMike said:
Jessepog said:
ScribbleMike said:
tinmann said:
All I'm saying is Prime is not meant to represent the amount of stress you PC will see in everyday use. Some heavy gaming will be the true test of you PC's thermal threshold and weakness. Test it the same way your going to use it and unless you intend to do some very heavy benching and overclocking I would not use prime for more than a few hours to test stability. Haswell, Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge or otherwise.


Thank you for that and now... What's a max safe temp my cpu should be at? 75? 85? 95?




Its personnel preference i think me personally wouldn't want the cpu to go over 75c max load but your cpu will run less stable and have less lifespan at higher temperatures. your cpu will throttle at around 100c to prevent damage to the unit. I also agree prime 95 does put alot of extra stress on your system than your pc would normally have to cope with but that's y its a good stability test! Its strange i thought the h100i would cool alot better than this there is defiantly something wrong. The die is not soldered on the hazwell and uses tim and silicone glue in between the IHS this may be the problem that's y i said it might be a good idea to delid the CPU and clean and replace the tim.


I am planning on that really soon, is the vice and hammer method any good? Oh and does rendering stress the cpu as much as Prime95?


Yes rendering is very cpu intensive probably very close to prime 95 you can test this with cinebench. This is a cpu render benchmark tool. Yes from what ive herd the vice method is the easiest method for deliding your cpu.



Is it worth doing if I get a massive temp decrease? Planning to use coollaboratory liquid ultra now for both the die and heatsink. Sorry for bugging, just really scared about this and still want that temp decrease


Yeah i know its gotta be bit nerve racking deliding the cpu this is half the reason i went with x79 platform enthusiast cpu's are soldered to the die and run cooler than the hazwell plus the 2 extra cores did sway the decision just a lil bit!!!!
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February 25, 2014 7:56:01 PM

Jessepog said:
ScribbleMike said:
Jessepog said:
ScribbleMike said:
Jessepog said:
ScribbleMike said:
tinmann said:
All I'm saying is Prime is not meant to represent the amount of stress you PC will see in everyday use. Some heavy gaming will be the true test of you PC's thermal threshold and weakness. Test it the same way your going to use it and unless you intend to do some very heavy benching and overclocking I would not use prime for more than a few hours to test stability. Haswell, Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge or otherwise.


Thank you for that and now... What's a max safe temp my cpu should be at? 75? 85? 95?




Its personnel preference i think me personally wouldn't want the cpu to go over 75c max load but your cpu will run less stable and have less lifespan at higher temperatures. your cpu will throttle at around 100c to prevent damage to the unit. I also agree prime 95 does put alot of extra stress on your system than your pc would normally have to cope with but that's y its a good stability test! Its strange i thought the h100i would cool alot better than this there is defiantly something wrong. The die is not soldered on the hazwell and uses tim and silicone glue in between the IHS this may be the problem that's y i said it might be a good idea to delid the CPU and clean and replace the tim.


I am planning on that really soon, is the vice and hammer method any good? Oh and does rendering stress the cpu as much as Prime95?


Yes rendering is very cpu intensive probably very close to prime 95 you can test this with cinebench. This is a cpu render benchmark tool. Yes from what ive herd the vice method is the easiest method for deliding your cpu.



Is it worth doing if I get a massive temp decrease? Planning to use coollaboratory liquid ultra now for both the die and heatsink. Sorry for bugging, just really scared about this and still want that temp decrease


Yeah i know its gotta be bit nerve racking deliding the cpu this is half the reason i went with x79 platform enthusiast cpu's are soldered to the die and run cooler than the hazwell plus the 2 extra cores did sway the decision just a lil bit!!!!


I heard deliding was not as hard as we thought, the success rate for the vice and hammer method was really high and the temps gained from it seemed worth the try. Sure the 2011 cpus are soldered but I didn't want to spend that much money on the cpu and mobo and leave nothing else for my system
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February 25, 2014 8:02:16 PM

Thats good. You will have to let us know how it goes!!! Im curious to see the temperature diference?
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February 25, 2014 8:38:24 PM

Jessepog said:
Thats good. You will have to let us know how it goes!!! Im curious to see the temperature diference?


Okay I will! Hopefully a 20c drop but I don't know. I'll either post it on this page or PM to you
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