R9 270 + Pentium G3220
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jeraldtapz
February 26, 2014 1:14:59 AM
I found a good deal here in my country for an R9-270
It is the Sapphire Radeon R9 270 Dual X OC 2GB GDDR5 for around $180 here in my country(Philippines).
Now I think i am gonna sacrifice a bit on my cpu as i am only going to get a Pentium G3220 3.0 Ghz.
I am reading that this CPU is just an underclocked i3 without hyperthreading.
Though I think i will be able to upgrade after 8-12 months.
I will be playing on 1600x900 resolution.
I know there will be some bottlenecking but am i doing the right decision here?
My original plan is to get an i3 and R7-260X or a GTX 750 Ti.
What do you guys think?
I really am confused at the moment.
I will mainly play Bioshock trilogy and Skyrim.
It is the Sapphire Radeon R9 270 Dual X OC 2GB GDDR5 for around $180 here in my country(Philippines).
Now I think i am gonna sacrifice a bit on my cpu as i am only going to get a Pentium G3220 3.0 Ghz.
I am reading that this CPU is just an underclocked i3 without hyperthreading.
Though I think i will be able to upgrade after 8-12 months.
I will be playing on 1600x900 resolution.
I know there will be some bottlenecking but am i doing the right decision here?
My original plan is to get an i3 and R7-260X or a GTX 750 Ti.
What do you guys think?
I really am confused at the moment.
I will mainly play Bioshock trilogy and Skyrim.
More about : 270 pentium g3220
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unknownofprob
February 26, 2014 1:22:10 AM
Ra_V_en
February 26, 2014 1:38:18 AM
The bottleneck wont be slight its a dual core that G33220 same as i3.
As for yesterday that R9 270 was very nice idea, but for today GTX750 Ti is killing everything to its knees when you consider energy efficiency, its more than a half power of that R9 270 for about the same performance just like with all Vishera vs i5, AMD is having a really hard times they are failing on both markets.
Second thing is those CPU's, get a decent quad core its a standard for today and putting mid range GPU with low end CPU will be a disaster.
As for yesterday that R9 270 was very nice idea, but for today GTX750 Ti is killing everything to its knees when you consider energy efficiency, its more than a half power of that R9 270 for about the same performance just like with all Vishera vs i5, AMD is having a really hard times they are failing on both markets.
Second thing is those CPU's, get a decent quad core its a standard for today and putting mid range GPU with low end CPU will be a disaster.
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jeraldtapz
February 26, 2014 2:04:02 AM
unknownofprob
February 26, 2014 2:06:59 AM
jeraldtapz
February 26, 2014 2:50:13 AM
unknownofprob
February 26, 2014 4:32:27 AM
well, I have a slightly better alternative, If you consider this, an AMD FX 6300 may be cheaper then the i3, though in games which don't use 2 cores the i3 will beat it, but maxing out modern popular games will defiantly use more then 2 cores therefore putting the FX 6300 in front. I find for CPU's under $200, AMD are the better choice. The FX 6300 has 6 cores and a 6MB Cache, very decent for the price indeed. And will run better then the i3 in games that require more then two cores. With the extra money, you can buy a slightly better card for even better performance. But changing that CPU means changing the motherboard to AM3+ Socket.
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February 26, 2014 4:47:52 AM
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jeraldtapz
February 26, 2014 5:02:12 AM
Ra_V_en
February 26, 2014 5:52:33 AM
You are trying to force bad things...
1) Better CPU will give you general performance boost while better GPU only in games, you match them at the same range, putting a HIGH or MID range GPU on crappy CPU is an overkill.
Get a decent CPU like core i5 or some Xeon e3-12X0 v2, and forget about those "6" core jokes from AMD, then look over a GPU for that and again as far as i have bought R7850 some time ago i wouldn't go for R9 270. 750Ti is simply an awesome card at this time being.
1) Better CPU will give you general performance boost while better GPU only in games, you match them at the same range, putting a HIGH or MID range GPU on crappy CPU is an overkill.
Get a decent CPU like core i5 or some Xeon e3-12X0 v2, and forget about those "6" core jokes from AMD, then look over a GPU for that and again as far as i have bought R7850 some time ago i wouldn't go for R9 270. 750Ti is simply an awesome card at this time being.
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unknownofprob
February 26, 2014 5:22:19 PM
Ra_V_en said:
You are trying to force bad things... 1) Better CPU will give you general performance boost while better GPU only in games, you match them at the same range, putting a HIGH or MID range GPU on crappy CPU is an overkill.
Get a decent CPU like core i5 or some Xeon e3-12X0 v2, and forget about those "6" core jokes from AMD, then look over a GPU for that and again as far as i have bought R7850 some time ago i wouldn't go for R9 270. 750Ti is simply an awesome card at this time being.
Well, If you consider the price of the AMD 6 core processors, they are quite decent, and for games that require more then 2 cores, the AMD 6 core processor will do significantly better. He simply can't afford an i5, if he could that would be much better. These aren't forces but options. You are trying to option an i5, and with that route he would have to get a even worse graphics card making performance worse overall, A R9 270 is not a high range card and I would just say mid, it's not end card like you are describing it.
With AMD 6 Cores, that is only equivalent to an intel Quad core but it still lacks that, there nothing flash, just value CPU's which do a pretty good job. And compared to an i3, it will do better in those high end games. The AMD FX 6 core processors are decent at gaming, but nothing Quad core intel for high end games, but really decent, So you have to consider the factors, they are decent and not a joke like you describe them.
-If the AM3+ boards are too expensive, just forget about it and stay with intel.
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Anonymous
February 26, 2014 5:44:35 PM
An FX 6300 would be quite a lot better...
A decent AM3+ board isn't that much actually-
this MSI is $75 and uses the 970 chipset http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and is pretty adequate.
this ASROCK board is $110 and uses the FX990 chipset http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
the msi for single gpu, asrock if you plan to go dual in the future...that's my perspective on it...
A decent AM3+ board isn't that much actually-
this MSI is $75 and uses the 970 chipset http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and is pretty adequate.
this ASROCK board is $110 and uses the FX990 chipset http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
the msi for single gpu, asrock if you plan to go dual in the future...that's my perspective on it...
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unknownofprob
February 26, 2014 5:46:37 PM
Anonymous said:
An FX 6300 would be quite a lot better...A decent AM3+ board isn't that much actually-
this MSI is $75 and uses the 970 chipset http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and is pretty adequate.
this ASROCK board is $110 and uses the FX990 chipset http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
the msi for single gpu, asrock if you plan to go dual in the future...that's my perspective on it...
that is a correct perspective, the 990FX Boards are much better then the 970 in short. But for a budget build the 970 are a great option.
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jeraldtapz
February 26, 2014 7:36:21 PM
Ra_V_en
February 27, 2014 12:38:07 AM
jeraldtapz said:
This will be the final build.FX-6300 + Asrock Extreme 3
Gtx 750 Ti OC.
This is more balanced and I think this will give me better experience overall.
Very good choice.
Btw @unknownofprob I didn't say both cards are high end, read my statement again and indeed that FX will be fine, but for my personal preferences i always put CPU on the first place not the other way around. Second thing its not a typical 6 core, I don't remember exactly what was the main difference but its more like Intel with HT on just on hardware level, windows recognizes 3 physical and 6 logical cores as far as i know.
3rd thing i love cool and quiet solutions thats why if i would create my machine now id pick:
- Xeon e3-1230 v2 (4 cores with HT = performance of i7 in price of i5 and even lower TDP then both)
- GTX 750 Ti an awesome peace of new technology, there is no other card that can keep up even close to a performance/wat on this one... imagine 2 in sli is only 120W sic!
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unknownofprob
February 27, 2014 12:48:31 AM
jeraldtapz said:
This will be the final build.FX-6300 + Asrock Extreme 3
Gtx 750 Ti OC.
This is more balanced and I think this will give me better experience overall.
Great combination, but the I would keep AMD with AMD, but AMD with Nvidia will work like a charm also. But an AMD card with a AMD CPU would be my preference.
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jeraldtapz
February 27, 2014 2:36:32 AM
unknownofprob
February 27, 2014 3:37:53 AM
pfunkmd
February 27, 2014 7:51:29 AM
The r9 270 is better than the gtx 750ti and you cant sli the gtx 750
Look at these benchmarks the r9 beats the 750ti everytime just saying
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-750-ti-...
Look at these benchmarks the r9 beats the 750ti everytime just saying
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-750-ti-...
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blademaster123
February 27, 2014 10:40:10 AM
Ra_V_en said:
jeraldtapz said:
This will be the final build.FX-6300 + Asrock Extreme 3
Gtx 750 Ti OC.
This is more balanced and I think this will give me better experience overall.
Very good choice.
Btw @unknownofprob I didn't say both cards are high end, read my statement again and indeed that FX will be fine, but for my personal preferences i always put CPU on the first place not the other way around. Second thing its not a typical 6 core, I don't remember exactly what was the main difference but its more like Intel with HT on just on hardware level, windows recognizes 3 physical and 6 logical cores as far as i know.
3rd thing i love cool and quiet solutions thats why if i would create my machine now id pick:
- Xeon e3-1230 v2 (4 cores with HT = performance of i7 in price of i5 and even lower TDP then both)
- GTX 750 Ti an awesome peace of new technology, there is no other card that can keep up even close to a performance/wat on this one... imagine 2 in sli is only 120W sic!
I think you are thinking of modules. The FX 8320/50 have 4 modules and 8 cores. Fx 6320/50 have 3 modules and 6 cores. Fx 43xx have 2 modules and 4 cores.
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Anonymous
February 27, 2014 5:15:13 PM
jeraldtapz said:
This will be the final build.FX-6300 + Asrock Extreme 3
Gtx 750 Ti OC.
This is more balanced and I think this will give me better experience overall.
THAT is a very good choice!
I may suggest a slightly better gpu though...the R9 270 or GTX 760 (or better) as it would be much better.
then it would be plenty for your resolution and provide a nicer experience.
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Brian Blair
May 21, 2014 4:23:49 PM
Ra_V_en said:
The bottleneck wont be slight its a dual core that G33220 same as i3.As for yesterday that R9 270 was very nice idea, but for today GTX750 Ti is killing everything to its knees when you consider energy efficiency, its more than a half power of that R9 270 for about the same performance just like with all Vishera vs i5, AMD is having a really hard times they are failing on both markets.
Second thing is those CPU's, get a decent quad core its a standard for today and putting mid range GPU with low end CPU will be a disaster.
Just because the 750 Ti is power efficient does not mean it will do better in games. The 750Ti is no where near the performance of the R7 265, and it especially won't touch the R9 270 in performance. The 750 Ti is really not any better than the 650Ti performance wise, The 750Ti can't even use all it's 2GB of V-ram, It has a slow 128bit bus with only a 86.4 GB/s memory bandwidth, And 16.3 GPixel/s and 40.8 GTexel/s and 1,306 GFLOPS, (Facts
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2548/geforce-gtx-750-t... And the R7 265 beats it by a wide margin and is the same price, The 265 has a 256bit bus and has fast 179 GB/s memory bandwidth , 28.8 GPixel/s and 57.6 GTexel/s and 1,843 GFLOPS (Facts
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2558/radeon-r7-265.htm... And the R9 270 has a 256bit bus with a fast 179 GB/s memory bandwidth, 28.8 GPixel/s and 72.0 GTexel/s and 2,304 GFLOPS (Facts
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2458/radeon-r9-270.htm... So looking at these numbers the supposed power efficiency of the 750Ti is looking a little bleak to say the least, Besides the R9 270 only needs 1 6pin power plug and 150 watts to run, A good quality 400watt PSU would run it. That's much more power efficient than a 60watt GPU that under-performs. Not to mention you can't SLI the 750, So it is obvious you have much better benefits and options for your money. I only paid $179.99 for my R9 270 and got 2 free games, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... And here is a R7 265 here for $149 with 2 free games http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... But if you must go Nvidia here is a GTX 660 for $179.99 , This is a much better GPU than the 750Ti and it too can handle all 2GB unlike the 750Ti , http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... I almost got this very 660 before buying my 270, (Edit) I forgot to add you get 1 free game with the GTX 660.))-
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copyninja
July 21, 2014 4:09:19 AM
I know im a little late, but just thought id share my thoughts for anyone who has a similar question as the op, I just built a pc with a G3240 and r9 270x and only 4gb of ram, and am playing 2014 games at maxed out ultra quality settings @ resolution of 1600x900, such as wolfenstein,Bioshock infinty,Hitman absolution, crysis 3 and others at what appears to be 60+ fps constant, most of the time 100+ fps, of course there are times i notice little stutters but rarely. Most of the time it feels blazing fast at highest settings. Ive found the dual core g3240 paired with a r9 270 Is great for todays games,even with 4gb ram,makes me wonder why people are spending so much on hardware anyways, but im guessing it might not be future proof or not be able to handle 2k+ and 4k resolutions, yet so far im more than happy with the performance of the G3240 for gaming, its not just a cpu for handling word documents and skype in my opinion and great for gaming as well especially for the price.
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Tyo Pablo
July 31, 2014 12:58:34 AM
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August 1, 2014 4:27:31 PM
oby39
August 23, 2014 8:17:56 AM
http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-pentium-g3220-process...
and r9 270 dual x sapphire you can game 1080p here. They think g3230 is old but not it is a 4th gen haswell cpu,when it comes to gaming it will eat amd quads
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