Info on new CPU's

Diamond-HP

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I am looking to get an Intel i5-4670k for gaming but Iwanted to know when the next line of Intel CPU's are coming out or if AMD are going to bring out a superior CPU that's worth waiting for.

The new i5's / i7's didn't come out that long ago so am wondering whether to wait till later this year or not.

My PC will start not playing new games well coming toward 2015.
 
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AMD is done competing in the high end market (at least for the moment), so we are not expecting much from them outside of mobile and midrange products. The only possible exception to this line of thinking is that both next gen consoles are running 8 core (4 module, 8 thread) AMD x86 processors. This means that there could be a possible benefit of owning an 8 core AMD chip for next gen console ports which will be poping up in the next year or so. Not sure how much benefit, or if it will be significantly more powerful than an Intel quad core for gaming... but it is a possibility. Still, even an i3 processor can play high end games these days when paired with a decent GPU... so I imagine that i5 processors will continue to dominate the...
I think the i5-4670K is a 4 year chip for gamers.

Intel broadwell for desktops is not due out until the end of the year, and I do not expect more than a 15%
price/performance delta.

On the AMD side, I do not think they will even approach the per core performance of 4670k within the next 4 years.
They are concentrating on multi cores which the gamers do not use, and on integrated graphics which gamers are also not interested in.

If you have a need(or itch) to build now do so.
If you wait for the next best thing, you will wait forever.
 
I wouldn't say that gamers don't use multiple cores. The only new games that are limited to one core are terrible console ports (LA Noire). A few big budget games use up to 8 threads (Crysis 3, BF4, BF3, etc.). With the consoles having 8 cores I would expect more games to support octocores in the future.
 
well, i doubt amd will continue to make quality cpus, actually they have said themselves they wont. they are focussing on apus and gpus. so, for gaming, the graphics card is more important than the cpu, so you will be fine getting a high end i5 or i7. i would wait a couple months for the prices on the newest i7s to drop, then get one of those. hope this helps!
 
AMD is done competing in the high end market (at least for the moment), so we are not expecting much from them outside of mobile and midrange products. The only possible exception to this line of thinking is that both next gen consoles are running 8 core (4 module, 8 thread) AMD x86 processors. This means that there could be a possible benefit of owning an 8 core AMD chip for next gen console ports which will be poping up in the next year or so. Not sure how much benefit, or if it will be significantly more powerful than an Intel quad core for gaming... but it is a possibility. Still, even an i3 processor can play high end games these days when paired with a decent GPU... so I imagine that i5 processors will continue to dominate the market in the near future.

The next line of Intel chips (Broadwell) is aimed at increasing onboard GPU capabilities, and lowering TDP for mobile devices. So while they will offer a little more performance, we are not expecting a whole lot of added benefit form the next gen chips. Also, Broadwell is not coming out until this fall at the earliest, so it is going to be some time before it is even available. Another annoying/distrubing trend is that each generation of Intel chips overclock less easily. Those of us with 3 year old Sandy Bridge CPUs can still keep up with the newest Intel chips simply because we can typically OC higher to make up the difference. So even if Broadwell was going to be a significant improvement... liklihood is that it still wont OC well, and that most of the mainstream chips put out the last few years will keep up just fine.


Rumor has it that the next big thing for enthusiests will be the Skylake or Cannonlake processors. These will bump up the connectivity standards to allow for things like PCIe4, SATA4/express, DDR4, and other new standards so that even if the CPUs are not significantly more powerful... there will still be cases to be made for upgrading. But beyond the new standards, it sounds like they will make quad core CPUs standard, which means that we might finally see mainstream 6-8 core processors for i5 and i7 chips which will hopefully be able to be put to good use by then. Intel will also be nearing the end of their ability to shrink the die, which means that we may see more focus on clock efficiency which would be more beneficial to the desktop market rather than all of the mobile tech they have been investing in lately. Sadly, these chips will not be coming until 2016 at the earliest, and possibly as late as 2018, so there is plenty of time to buy a rig now, and then upgrade again when Intel starts caring about desktop users again.

Hope that helps!
 
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Broadwell is a 14nm die shrink of the current haswell architecture.

If Intel can change the cooling approach to the chips, it could be significant, but I doubt that will happen.

 
Exactly, it has been confirmed that Broadwell will move a lot of the voltage management back onto the motherboard to cut down on heat issues (which makes one wonder about Haswell and Broadwell being very cross compatible). If this is done then it could mean that Broadwell can possibly be overclocked better than current Haswell chips... but with such a significant die shrink it also means that the heat generated is going to be in an even smaller space... and even harder to dissipate effectively... which will probably mean that they will not be great for overclocking.

Also, Broadwell is really focused on the mobile side of things to get Intel chips to basically compete within the power envelopes of ARM processors. I am sure they will meet or beat their power goals... but such a focus on total power usage typically does not bode well for raw performance gains. I am sure that they will be a little faster than current gen chips... but somewhere in the neighborhood of 5% faster, we are not expecting any major improvements here. Plus, they will not be here until this fall/winter... so without being significantly better (20%) than current chips, they certainly are not worth waiting for.