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Hello

Everyone who uses 8350's and 9530's can you please post your experience with your cpu's? Please give experience with gaming and with 3D design, rendering, video editing.

I want to get a good idea how they perform without hearing Intel this and Intel that.

 
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your best bet is to look up reviews for the chips and see if the software you use is on the list and compare. Some software like multiple cores, AMD might win again an I5 or I3. Software that favors clock speeds will probably do better on Intel over AMD as intels do rule in processing per clock cycle. AMD just throws more cores and speed at the chip to make up for that.

There is no single answer. Lets take a 8350 and I5-3470, only $10 difference.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/702?vs=697

Look at the cinebench scores, meant to test 3d rendering ability of a CPU. single thread test, intel wins. multi-thread test, amd wins.

That intel chip also isn't overclockable. you could overclock that AMD and get more power out of it.

The 9000 chips aren't worth it. Too much and they run too hot. Honestly, from an AMD fan, the 8350 is pushing it. The 8320 is usually way cheaper and will always overclock to 8350 speeds. The 8350 is 4ghz with only a 4.2ghz turbo boost, the 8320 is 3.5ghz with 4.0ghz turbo boost, therefore it has to be able to automatically overclock to 4.0ghz speeds. Couple that with things like the 8320 being on sale in-store only at microcenters across the US for $99, the only $99 intel is the Pentium 2180

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/68?vs=697

AMD crushes it at a $99 price point with that chip on sale.


A lot of this debate comes down to money. Intel generally costs more. In Canada when I built my rig, it was an 8320 or an I3. 8 core or dual core. As good as intel is, it's not 6 cores more worth.
 
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Looks slanted to intel to me. They give them the same performance score, overclocking win for the AMD by 1.8, single thread performance win for Intel by 1.8, so everything should be even then. 0.1 better score for the AMD for value, so you would figure the AMD would win by 0.1, yet it looses in overall by 0.7
 
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good point, and i love amd, i support them all the way. so for low-high end cpu, amd is best, but for really high nd cpu, amd just doesnt make them.
 
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Thanks

I am looking at the 8350, I want to have a stable cpu so dont know if keeping it oc'ed is good for constant 3D design and rendering use and gaming.

I am looking at the 9530 because it is already clocked at a higher speed normal.

Does any of this matter or is oc'ing fine for long periods of time?

The i7 4770k I thought about, but dont think it is worth paying over 130 dollars more for the performance that it gives.
If anything I'll save up more money and get the i7 4930K.

As long as the AMD can give me good performance for the things I want to do, I am fine.
 
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I'm not an expert, just googled 3dsmax benchmark to see how well they did against each other since 3dsmax is a popular program. as i said, it really depends on the software. Also take into account for the benchmark I provided the intel i7-3770k is $320 right now and the 8350 is $180. For a $140 more, I would expect more a few points in 3DSmax. That $140 difference could go towards more RAM, better video card of OpenCL rendering or other things that might make a bigger difference.
 
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Thanks

Ok I will stick with the 8350 instead of the i7 4770K. But I am still thinking about the 9530. Is it better to have a cpu run at stock speed or is oc'ing for a long period of time ok?
 
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the 9000x series just run too hot for the extra performance which isn't much. there is only a few boards that can support the TDP of the 9xxx chips, you need liquid cooling to cool the thing, etc.

You don't have to OC the 8350. The thing though is to look for the software you want to use and google benchmarks for it and the various chips and see what ones performs better. No one chip is better at everything single PC related thing than another. If you plan to a certain software the most and intel favors it, then it might be worth going towards intel. If the $140 difference though could get you 16gb MORE ram for your build, that might benefit than the few % more.

IT really comes down to building a PC for the actual software you want to use and compare what will $xxxx get me for an intel vs amd build. $140 brings you a huge difference in the GPU you can get and for a gaming PC, the 8350 vs 3770k aren't going to matter but a $140 better GPU ups the whole class of GPU's you can get.
 
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Don't get the AMD 9xxx series chips. They have tons of bad reviews from what I've seen.

Personally I would suggest an Intel Core i7 4770K. The 8350 is comparable to the high end i5 in performance. Of which puts them nowhere near the top of the line i7, not to mention hyper threaded performance.
 
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