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March 1, 2014 9:04:42 AM

Okay so, I'm looking to purchase a new gaming PC in time for The Elder Scrolls Online and various other modern games out there (I already own GW2) and would like to run them on the maximum settings with smooth gameplay. To be truly honest I don't know much about PCs and specs as other people might so I'm just going with what reviewers say is good etc. I'm also looking to go with a fairly cheap PC nothing in the £1000s or that.
So I've been planning on getting a full AMD Piledriver FX-4350 which is said to be 4.30GHz. Now that sounds pretty impressive to me, from my own knowledge about processing power, that is a lot and I'd love to have that. The downside of this PC I want is that the graphics card isn't very good and wouldn't be able to handle modern computers at their maximum settings. So I decided to search for a better one that I could upgrade to 'after' I'd bought my PC. I found the "GTX 770 Overclocked Windforce 3X Graphics Card - 2GB" and from the specs/reviews it sounded like a pretty damn good card. Seeing as the processor would be fast I hoped that they would work well, but since I don't know much about parts and how they work as well as reading up on forums I have grown uncertain on whether the CPU would be able to handle this graphics card. Remember it is 4.30GHz and I want to play games like The Elder Scrolls Online etc. on ultra settings but I'm looking for a cheap pc. Please could you tell me if these two would work well together to give me a smooth, good performance and feel free to make any suggestions on what I should get. I'd love to hear any of your thoughts as I am puzzled on what to get and the situation of money. I understand I am going to have to upgrade the graphics card (replace the one that comes with the pc) and I have been seeing questions about 'bottlenecking' which has been really worrying me as it may be related to this.
Here are the links to the fully built pc &the graphics card which I would buy afterwards:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/PILEDRIVER-FX-4350-Gaming-Mothe...

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-gigabyte-gtx-770-oc-...
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March 1, 2014 9:12:12 AM

DO NOT get that PC. The PSU in it is most likely very bad and could not handle anything more than the card already in there.

What is your TOTAL budget?

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March 1, 2014 9:15:14 AM

Novuake said:
DO NOT get that PC. The PSU in it is most likely very bad and could not handle anything more than the card already in there.

What is your TOTAL budget?


The max amount of money I'm looking to spend is £600
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March 1, 2014 9:15:21 AM

Why is 4.3GHz fast? The ancient P4s could hit 4GHz, are those fast to?

The 4350 isn't horrible, but most go Intel or 6300 at least. If you upgrade that GPU to the 770 I can pretty much guarantee you you'll need to upgrade the "PSU" in that tower. I didn't see any info on it so I'm sure it's a nothing PSU. 6300 and 770 should get you great frame rates in most games.
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March 1, 2014 9:19:05 AM

Here is something A LOT more powerful with all quality components.

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32cAM
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32cAM/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32cAM/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£106.36 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.44 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX KILLER ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£66.98 @ Novatech)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.50 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£242.90 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (£62.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£44.98 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£10.78 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £603.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-01 17:18 GMT+0000)
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March 1, 2014 9:19:32 AM

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Why is 4.3GHz fast? The ancient P4s could hit 4GHz, are those fast to?

The 4350 isn't horrible, but most go Intel or 6300 at least. If you upgrade that GPU to the 770 I can pretty much guarantee you you'll need to upgrade the "PSU" in that tower. I didn't see any info on it so I'm sure it's a nothing PSU. 6300 and 770 should get you great frame rates in most games.


Okay, well somebody else suggested I go for this, its i5 and has got the 750ti included so would that be a better choice? &if I got this one would I have to upgrade anything?
http://www.freshtechsolutions.co.uk/custom-built-comput...
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March 1, 2014 9:21:19 AM

Look at Novuake's build above. Best one so far. i5 is better, but 750TI isn't as good as the cards we've been talking about.
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March 1, 2014 9:24:43 AM

Novuake said:
Here is something A LOT more powerful with all quality components.

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32cAM
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32cAM/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32cAM/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£106.36 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.44 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX KILLER ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£66.98 @ Novatech)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.50 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£242.90 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (£62.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£44.98 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£10.78 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £603.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-01 17:18 GMT+0000)


Oh wow, cool thankyou dude:D  I looked at the links but the motherboard isn't showing up for purchase?
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March 1, 2014 9:30:51 AM

Oh my bad, glitched out it seems.

Here :

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32cYt
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32cYt/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32cYt/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£106.36 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£61.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£66.98 @ Novatech)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.50 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£242.90 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (£62.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£44.98 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£10.78 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £640.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-01 17:30 GMT+0000)


A little over budget now, but you can drop to a GTX760 if you have to.
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March 1, 2014 9:31:42 AM

The CPU is bad for gaming, get at least a fx63xx or intel core i5 ivy bridge. Don't go with fx4series or i3 series. And the GPU - the 770 is good, very good.
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March 1, 2014 9:34:28 AM

Novuake said:
Oh my bad, glitched out it seems.

Here :

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32cYt
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32cYt/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32cYt/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£106.36 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£61.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£66.98 @ Novatech)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.50 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£242.90 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (£62.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£44.98 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£10.78 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £640.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-01 17:30 GMT+0000)


A little over budget now, but you can drop to a GTX760 if you have to.

Ah thankyou so much, very helpful! Just what I need
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