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March 1, 2014 12:54:48 PM

Hi everyone, I'm currently studying my CompTIA A+ which I'm enjoying as I'm getting a better understanding of computer componets and how they work together however...I'm not confident enough to put it together blindly yet and would like some guidance from the community please.

I'm looking to build one for the upcoming game Elder Scrolls Online and would like one that can run it comfortably. The recommended soecs for the game are:

Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit or Windows 8 64-bit
Processor: Quad Core 2.3GHz or equivalent processor
Memory: 4GB System RAM
Hard Disk Space: 60GB free HDD space
Video Card: Direct X 11 compliant video card with 2GB of RAM (NVIDIA® GeForce® 560 Ti / ATI Radeon™ 6950 or better)
Sound: DirectX compatible sound card

I've gone onto http://www.overclockers.co.uk trying to get an idea of the price I would be looking at buying the components separately and building it myself. This is what I've come up with:

MSI Radeon R9 270X HAWK OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

Corsair Hydro H105 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060016-WW )

AMD A8-6500 3.50GHz (Socket FM2) APU Richland Quad Core Processor (AD6500OKHLBOX)

Pioneer BDR-209EBK 16x BDRW Multilayer 128GB retail

In-Win Dragon Slayer Midi Tower Case - Black

Asus F2A55-M AMD A55 Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard

Toshiba (7K1000.D) 500GB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA050)

Asus Xonar DGX 5.1 PCI-Express Sound Card with built in Headphone Amp

AeroCool F6XT 6-Channel Fan Controller

Akasa Viper R High Performance S-Flow fan (14cm Blade on 12cm Fitting) x2

Alpenföhn Permafrost Thermal Paste

TOTAL £644.75


Now I have a few questions with this. 1, What am I missing?
2, Will the pieces work with each other?
3, Would it cost the same amount to buy a similar/better machine from the shop?

I do know that the experience is something you can't buy but I'd like this machine to work without me accidently frying a component becuase something else isn't compatible etc.

I greatly appreciate the help in advance.

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March 1, 2014 12:58:10 PM

Your build is extremely unbalanced, if you give me a second, I can whip you up a really good build that will be balanced and good for the money.
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March 1, 2014 1:00:25 PM

I would greatly appreciate that. Thanks, Could I trouble you to ask why it's unbalanced? I'm eager to learn and apart from a virtual classroom and a text book I don't have any in-trade experience?...if that makes sense.
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March 1, 2014 1:06:48 PM

Heres A Build That Will Run Most Games On Medium-Ultra:

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32jX5
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32jX5/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32jX5/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£106.36 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.44 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.50 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£189.44 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£79.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£79.80 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £689.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-01 21:06 GMT+0000)
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March 1, 2014 1:11:22 PM

TheUnknownPC said:
Heres A Build That Will Run Most Games On Medium-Ultra:

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32jX5
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32jX5/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32jX5/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£106.36 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.44 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.50 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£189.44 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£79.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£79.80 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £689.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-01 21:06 GMT+0000)


So it's cheaper to do it this way than buy a shop equivalent? I forgot the OS in the previous run down so I'd need to add that onto the price.

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March 1, 2014 1:15:02 PM

Dkendall said:
TheUnknownPC said:
Heres A Build That Will Run Most Games On Medium-Ultra:

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32jX5
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32jX5/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32jX5/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£106.36 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.44 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.50 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£189.44 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£79.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£79.80 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £689.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-01 21:06 GMT+0000)


So it's cheaper to do it this way than buy a shop equivalent? I forgot the OS in the previous run down so I'd need to add that onto the price.



Yes It Is The Cheapest Way:) 
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March 1, 2014 1:16:34 PM

TheUnknownPC said:
Dkendall said:
TheUnknownPC said:
Heres A Build That Will Run Most Games On Medium-Ultra:

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32jX5
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32jX5/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32jX5/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£106.36 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.44 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.50 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£189.44 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£79.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£79.80 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £689.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-01 21:06 GMT+0000)


So it's cheaper to do it this way than buy a shop equivalent? I forgot the OS in the previous run down so I'd need to add that onto the price.



Yes It Is The Cheapest Way:) 


Awesome thanks!
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March 1, 2014 1:17:49 PM

Dkendall said:
TheUnknownPC said:
Dkendall said:
TheUnknownPC said:
Heres A Build That Will Run Most Games On Medium-Ultra:

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32jX5
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32jX5/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/32jX5/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£106.36 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.44 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.50 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£189.44 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£79.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£79.80 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £689.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-01 21:06 GMT+0000)


So it's cheaper to do it this way than buy a shop equivalent? I forgot the OS in the previous run down so I'd need to add that onto the price.



Yes It Is The Cheapest Way:) 


Awesome thanks!


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March 1, 2014 1:38:50 PM

Looks like I was beat to the punch, but if you still want me to explain, you're pairing an APU with a discrete graphics card. An APU already comes with a graphics component built in, so that makes the CPU component weaker, which makes it bottleneck / limit the graphics card from its limited potential. And 4 gigs of RAM isn't enough, the minimum I'd recommend is 8 gigs. Basically the real reason it's unbalanced is because of the APU / GPU pairing, you should have gone with a discrete GPU / discrete CPU pairing for maximum performance. I was gonna suggest you an AMD Athlon X4 760k since it's cheaper but gets the work done, but FX 8320 is better.
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March 1, 2014 2:06:54 PM

pcgaming98 said:
Looks like I was beat to the punch, but if you still want me to explain, you're pairing an APU with a discrete graphics card. An APU already comes with a graphics component built in, so that makes the CPU component weaker, which makes it bottleneck / limit the graphics card from its limited potential. And 4 gigs of RAM isn't enough, the minimum I'd recommend is 8 gigs. Basically the real reason it's unbalanced is because of the APU / GPU pairing, you should have gone with a discrete GPU / discrete CPU pairing for maximum performance. I was gonna suggest you an AMD Athlon X4 760k since it's cheaper but gets the work done, but FX 8320 is better.


Thanks. I really appreciate the time for you to explain that. It's the only problem with home study is the lack of hands on experience so when it comes to doing this I'm going in with just theory.

Thanks again.

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