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March 1, 2014 8:54:19 PM

So i tried to build my first pc and here are the parts:
MOBO: MSI 760GM-P34 (FX)
CPU: AMD FX-6300
GPU: GIGABYTE Radeon R9 270X
HARDDRIVE: 500GB WESTERN DIG. 7200rpm
RAM: 2X4gb DDR3-1600
CASE: Cooler Master N200
PSU: Corsair CX430 V2
(I watched alot of youtube vids soo i dont know what i did wrong)
So i finished building it, plugged in monitor on the VGA(MOBO) and PS2 Keyboard, turned it on and it just beeps twice, screen is still on sleep mode. Soo i looked on the web for help, people say to unplug the GPU and take one RAM out, so I did. And turned it on, beeps twice and screen finally loads and says "press delete for BIOS(or something)" it was like flash and then shows the LOGO and then im just on the "No bootable device. Press any key to restard". So i turned it off again and my keyboard was actually not working on the PS2 so i couldnt enter the BIOS menu when it says "press delete for BIOS"(stays in screen for a short time, like 1-2sec then goes to LOGO and then goes to No Bootable.....). Ok so i took out the mobo and place it on my table and its just w the RAM, CPU, and PSU that is connected. Turned it on and same thing again. I tried to check if the USB ports are powered or working by plugging my phone thru USB just like when u transfer music. Nothing happened on all of the USB PORTS. I plugged a USB keyboard and the lights wont turn on. So i couldnt get to the bios at this point. I need help please, why is my USB ports not working and also the PS2 port? And when GPU is plug in, everything runs(CPU,PSU,MOBO,FANS) but it cant display anything unlike when the GPU is not power supplied. Paycheck is coming up but im really on a tight budget as i workd twice a week and dont have much money. Im considering to buy a new Motherboard and powersupply if there is no other choice. But it will be like a 2-3month saving, because i am not a rich person or a person who can just spend money as he pleases. i need help please, on why the USB ports are not working, (2) on why the BIOS asking part doesnt stay for a long time. Keyboards are working, PS2 works on our family desktop and USB keyboard works on my laptop.

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March 1, 2014 10:16:46 PM

If you have not already try the PS/2 keyboard in the purple PS/2 slot and press DEL repeatedly as soon as you turn on the computer - hopefully that should get you into BIOS. If that does not work, reset CMOS, and try again.
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March 1, 2014 10:30:24 PM

i did that 3 times and i resetted the CMOS :(  sigh, u think im missing power(wattage)? This will just be my project now, ill think of saving for new motherboard and the OS(dont have OS yet)
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March 1, 2014 10:50:44 PM

You have power since you can get to the BIOS screen. Is this a new or used motherboard? If it is new you can RMA (return it for a replacement) since it does not seem to be working. Since this is your first build, are you certain that no cpu pins are bent or broken? I'm out of ideas, but hopefully someone else here can provide some more help.

If you do get your computer working you can always use a free linux distro until you can save up for Windows. I've just started playing around with Zorin 8 which looks similar to Windows 7 but it requires a lot of user input and research to get it tweaked to how I want it. It's good for general use but is basically unusable for gaming.

Good luck.
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March 2, 2014 6:04:14 AM

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u think im missing power(wattage)?


1 - Maybe your power supply is too low. According to http://support.asus.com/powersupply.aspx , the recommended is 600 Watts . But according to http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine it might be only 468 (minimum 418). Try using those two calculators to see if you get different results.

And attention because: When used heavily or over an extended period of time (1+ years) a power supply will slowly lose some of its initial wattage capacity. So, if your power supply is used, most likely you will need a new one to be able to boot your system.

Try to take your computer to a friend's house or a repair shop to test it with another power supply.

2 - Sometimes electric devices get stuck due to static electricity. Remove all components from the motherboard and them remove the motherboard from the case and clean everything with a dry piece of cloth, and then put everything is its place again and see if it boots.

GL

EDIT:

Make sure you have the CPU 4 pin atx cable connected (just behind the keyboard and mouse ports),

I have a broken Hard Drive that blocks my PC from starting (I don't even get the logo screen, only a black one), so, if you can, try to connect yours to a external case, docking station, or another computer to see if it's working.

Your motherboard seems to have a built in OS (Winki 3) based on linux. Check manual to see how to use it.





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March 2, 2014 2:45:31 PM

I think its mostly my mobo is not functioning well or it has a problem. I didnt bend any of the pins, i bought it new from tigerdirect and do u think theyll replace it if i return it? Or maybe im just missing power
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March 2, 2014 3:21:50 PM

jetsmack said:
I think its mostly my mobo is not functioning well or it has a problem. I didnt bend any of the pins, i bought it new from tigerdirect and do u think theyll replace it if i return it? Or maybe im just missing power


Since USB ports are not functioning, maybe it's the MB, and if it's new you probably will have no problem returning it. But try some of those tests I told you in my previous post, because you will be just wasting your time if your return the motherboard and the manufacturer find out that your motherboard is working properly .

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Before you make the other tests, try to: remove all components from your motherboard (ram, CPU, HDD, drives, etc), and leave only the power supply connected to your motherboard. Then connect a USB device to your motherboard and check if it will work. If it does, it's because your power supply cant power up your computer. If USB device still doesn't work try the other tests I told you in my previous post.

Any way, according to http://www.corsair.com/en/psu-finder the recommended power supply are this (600w+): http://www2.corsair.com/psufinder/new_results.aspx?cpu_...|Silver|Gold|Platinum|Titanium&Debug=0&modularity=Non-Modular|Semi-Modular|Fully%20Modular

(I used a GTx660 on the graphic card, witch consumes about less 30w then a R9 270x)
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March 2, 2014 3:45:18 PM

Two questions tho, why does it when it says to press delete, that part of the screen doesnt stay for atleast 5sec, but it just flashes.
2. If my Screen turned on, how come my usb ports are not working properly and also the ps2 ports?
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March 2, 2014 4:11:24 PM

jetsmack said:
Two questions tho, why does it when it says to press delete, that part of the screen doesnt stay for atleast 5sec, but it just flashes.
2. If my Screen turned on, how come my usb ports are not working properly and also the ps2 ports?


Check the EDIT from my last post

Answering: 1 - you have to start pressing delete imediatly after you power up your computer, because sometimes boot of the rest of the system is faster then the but of your monitor/GPU.
2 - That is possible because your monitor/screen is not connected to your motherboard via USB. Your're probably using VGA, DVI or HDMI. By the way, it's possible to disable ubs ports, but I dont know if your motherboard (or any motherboard) allows UBS ports to be disable physically (through a pin)

NOTE: Another probable cause for your problems: Bios version. For your motherboard to work with your CPU you need at least Bios version H.B (http://www.msi.com/product/mb/760GMP34_FX.html#/?div=CP...). Your can check bios version on your motherboard original box. This is the list of all bios for your motherboard: http://www.msi.com/product/mb/760GMP34_FX.html#/?div=BI... . If your Bios is not H.B. (witch was realease on 2012-10-31) or newer you will have to update it with flash utility (http://www.msi.com/service/biosupdate/).
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March 2, 2014 4:33:42 PM

But if its the bios, then i cant update it cux of the usb ports not working. I am using a Cooler Master N200 and the front panel have audio, usb 2, and usb 3, i couldnt connect usb 3 because motherboard doesnt have slots to put the 19pin(20). Might that be the problem? But at this rate, im really in the no knowledge on why my screen(VGA) can turn on when the port is connected to the motherboard.
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March 2, 2014 5:26:17 PM

jetsmack said:
But if its the bios, then i cant update it cux of the usb ports not working. I am using a Cooler Master N200 and the front panel have audio, usb 2, and usb 3, i couldnt connect usb 3 because motherboard doesnt have slots to put the 19pin(20). Might that be the problem? But at this rate, im really in the no knowledge on why my screen(VGA) can turn on when the port is connected to the motherboard.


VGA and USB are two different things, just think about a car and you will understand, a door might be stuck and the rest of the car can be working just fine.

At page 11 of your mobo's manual (http://www.msi.com/product/mb/760GMP34_FX.html#/?div=Ma...) you can see the location of the spot to connect front usb ports (of your case).

And there is a pin to disable usb (see same page) just right of the Lan jack and the USB ports

Questions:

1 - If you connect keyboard to one of the usb ports at the back panel it still doesn't work?

2 - The EPS Connector (or CPU cable) from your power supply is connected to the JPWR2 of your motherboard?
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March 2, 2014 7:01:52 PM

1. No still doesnt work, any usb on the back and on the front, even ps/2 port is not working.
2. Yes, it is connected to the JPWR2
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March 2, 2014 9:02:27 PM

OMG im so sorry for the stupid quesions, i forgot to put the usb jumpers back im really sorry and thank you for helping :) 
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March 3, 2014 3:11:33 AM

jetsmack said:
OMG im so sorry for the stupid quesions, i forgot to put the usb jumpers back im really sorry and thank you for helping :) 


So, your PC is working with 430W power supply?
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March 3, 2014 10:28:13 AM

Its working and ive been installing drives and utilities. But when i plug in the R9 270x, fans works, keyboard and mice works, but no screen display.
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March 3, 2014 11:31:58 AM

jetsmack said:
Its working and ive been installing drives and utilities. But when i plug in the R9 270x, fans works, keyboard and mice works, but no screen display.


make sure you're connecting your monitor to the R9 270x, and not to the onboard graphic card.

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March 3, 2014 11:53:00 AM

Oh, its a VGA(blue one) and it cant connect to the GPU cuz different connector or pins. Sorry for all the questions
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March 3, 2014 2:05:37 PM

jetsmack said:
Oh, its a VGA(blue one) and it cant connect to the GPU cuz different connector or pins. Sorry for all the questions


No problem.

Check in your GPU box for an adapter dvi (male) to vga (female), if you don't have one you will have to buy it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Until you get the adapter you will have to unplug your 270x and use the on-board graphic card.

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March 3, 2014 3:51:50 PM

i got the adapters now. Its working and im installing the GPU drivers now, thanks for ur help. Please close this thread
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March 3, 2014 3:53:06 PM

no problem, good luck
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