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Chrisbelt14

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I was wondering what the best parts to get and what parts i would need for a water cooled system. I mean everything form tubing to any blocks and reservoir that i would need. My PC specs are:
MOBO:Asus M5A97 LE R2.0
CPU: FX Vishera 8350 3.7ghz
GPU: AMD Radeon 7870 2gb X2 in crossfire
PSU: 700W Thermaltake
Ram: 2X 2gb Corsair Sport (i think)
HDD: 1tb Seagate Barracuda, 128gb Samsung SSD.
Cooling: 4 120mm case fans, 1 Hyper T4 Cpu fan.
Thermaltake mid tower.

If there are any upgrades needed please include that. I dont want a crazy watercooled system just a decent one for my cpu that will look nice. Also if the cool could be blue to match my LEDs' that would be nice :) thanks!!!!
 
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+1 with Someone Somwhere. I myself has always recommended air coolers particularly Notua NH-14D/NH-U14S. But if you are really into water based cooling system then get H320 or Corsair H100i. They are AIO liquid cooling kits and are very effective and easy to handle.
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So say i change the MOBO which one do you reccomend to support all my pieces as well as water cooling. I just want water cooling for Asthetic reasons and noise reduction as well as if i OC in the future
 
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+1 with Someone Somwhere. I myself has always recommended air coolers particularly Notua NH-14D/NH-U14S. But if you are really into water based cooling system then get H320 or Corsair H100i. They are AIO liquid cooling kits and are very effective and easy to handle.
 
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Yeah i just have nothing i really wanna upgrade from here. I just added the new processor and just added another GPU. I just wanna make my system look good and push it to the limit. Also im not sure what AIO means lol.
 
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Also not sure if you saw this article but the H320 isnt able to be sold in the US. http://www.swiftech.com/pr-7-19-13-h220-removedfromus.aspx
 
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I was not aware that you are from US.
 
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Yes i am from the US. Lol. But other than you preferring air cooling what MOBO would you suggest i upgrade too in order to OC and to water cool my system?
 
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I will get the MSI one. Now do i need any cpu blocks or special things to cool my GPU's ??? Or are there good priced complete kits?
 
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Okay and another thing. Would i need more than one Radiator? i see many building with multiple rads. Would i need more or is one good enough for say, a cpu and gpu cooling system?
 
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The H100i is a Closed Loop Liquid Cooler. They tend to be cheaper than real loops, but can't be changed and generally can't be repaired.

AIO = All In One. Often used to refer to a set containing all the things you need for a basic loop. An easy+cheaper way to get all the bits needed for a custom loop.

You can't cool a GPU with a CLLC (except for a very few loops that come with a block for a specific GPU), but you can get GPU blocks that will connect to an AIO set.
 
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@ Chrisbelt14

Motherboard wise I'd go with the ASUS Sabertooth that was previously recommended.

When you previously asked what AIO stood for it is All In One, now personally those recommending air coolers only probably have never water cooled and could actually fear it, but IMO if all you would consider is going with an AIO cooling assembly you may as well stick to air cooling because the high end air coolers are competitive to the AIO water coolers.

No offense meant regarding any previous suggestions, but if you want water cooling information, get it from water coolers, things were much simpler at Toms when we had a dedicated water cooling section but it was lost in the last software change and apparently is not coming back!

So lets get down to business and the first point to make is you want to water cool for overclocking headroom, thus the reason to go with a motherboard that will allow you to overclock with only your cooling being your limitation.

If you are seriously considering water cooling your CPU for higher overclocking headroom the kit I'm suggesting below will do it for you, however the radiator is the highest performer EK offers and is 64mm thick, it may require top mounting or side mounting on your case and will require an additional mounting kit but otherwise everything you need is in the kit.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/cata...oduct_info&cPath=59_202_946&products_id=33430

Most of us have just used these type mounting brackets below.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/cata...t_info&cPath=59_457_335_987&products_id=33483

So now the ball is in your court, yes you can go cheaper but the end results may be far from what you want to achieve in your overclocking!

I hope that information helps you. Ryan

 
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I thought AIO often referred to kits, and CLLC was the non-modifiable loops?

Still, a lot of what you said is what I said earlier.

I usually don't recommend Sabertooth, ROG, or other ultra-high-end boards. They tend to be very barely better than boards $100 or more cheaper, and you pay for the bling.
 
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You could consider AIO as a kit, however there are no kits that additionally cover GPUs today and to me that would actually be a true AIO, they did support it all in days long gone, even the chipset as well, but not today.

If you can find a true AIO water cooling solution please post a link to it?

It's an ASUS Sabertooth Intel version allowing the 5ghz overclock in my CPU-Z validation in my sig?

What are you overclocked to?

 
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I'm currently under the assumption that 'AIO' and 'kit' generally refer to a set of parts, sold together, that you can assemble into a loop. That's an open loop setup, not a closed option like Corsair (for example) makes. You could add a GPU block and extra length of pipe (and probably an extra rad) to one of these kits to cool a GPU.

I haven't been following the cooling side of things too closely, though. My terminology may be off.

I'm not saying Sabertooths are bad (I'm of the opinion that they're a very good board), but from what I've seen the advantages don't tend to show up until you're either doing a really serious loop, or you're using cryogenics. Not certain, but IIRC the Toms board roundups found it performing within tens of MHz of ~$130 boards under a NH-D14 or H100 or something. Have to have another look.
 
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In MHO, AIO refers to already assembled components in water cooling which user don't have to connect or assemble themselves but can easily install out of the box.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7738/closed-loop-aio-liquid-coolers
http://www.tested.com/tech/pcs/454784-how-choose-all-one-cpu-water-cooler/
http://www.swiftech.com/h220.aspx


Now EK is using this terminology in context of solution for CPU and Motherboard not just CPU itself. For example: http://www.ekwb.com/news/450/19/EK-introduces-ASUS-Maximus-VI-Impact-AIO-water-cooling-solution/

OP: If you want to cool your graphics cards, you can use NZXT G10 mounting bracket along with any AIO/closed loop with it.
 
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In Reply to everyone!

I appreciate the answers given. IMO Ryan is going in the direction i want to go. I do not care how much the loop will cost or if it can be used out of the box with no assembly. I just want to OC my cpu and possibly my gpu and have the best asthetically pleasing loop that i can get. I have seen that the 7870's are very difficult to get a water block for. I may be mistaken but ive seen you have to make modifications. So my cpu may be the only thing i cool. But back to the beginning, I only want to water cool my system because i have nothing else to do. Its just something i want to do just so i can say "hey i have a watercooled loop that i made". Bragging rights if you will. My only thing about the Asus Sabertooth is that i want my things to match in a way that it looks good. The MSI board that was linked above matches perfectly. However if you all agree that the Sabertooth is better than i shall purchase it!

Thanks for all the replies :) -Chris
 
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