Fastest HDD 1tb

abdulhadi Khan · Mar 2, 2014

hi guys !!
i want to buy a good speed hdd yesterday i was searching i have read that new games need good hard drives as on low performance hard drives they will shutter alot so i need a fastest 2 tb hdd under 200$ i don't want ssd cauze 2 tb ssd cost 1000$

Bad_Kitty13 · Mar 2, 2014

the fastest 7200 rpm is the wd black i think it has the highest marks for 7200rpm and the seagate hybrid drive is interesting as it combines a 8gb nand flash as a smart cache a 7200rpm drive. the hybrid drive drive has some good potential for gaming in certain situations as well because it will remember and store your most used access files in its ssd cache.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd2003fzex
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dx001

photonboy · Mar 2, 2014

Games don't shutter/stutter due to a hard drive. Data is copied into the System or Video RAM and runs from there not directly from the hard drive which is the reason there USED to be issues.

There have been issues in the past, but not with modern games. I have specifically tested 200+ games to see how they compare on a good SSD compared to a Hard Drive.

The SSD loads games on average about 2x faster. That's nice for SKYRIM type games especially which have MAPS or BUILDINGS that require frequent loading.

*Another issue is that that hard drives become SLOWER as they fill up (mechanical rotation). If you access the data at the 2TB point on a 2TB drive it's slower than a comparable 3TB at the same point.

**My advice is get something like a Seagate 3TB 7200RPM drive that costs about $110 USD, and perhaps a 120GB Samsung 840 EVO for your Windows drive (games/Steam on the hard drive).

Other:
1) In WITCHER 1, I was convinced the stuttering was slow texture loading due to the hard drive. It turns out it was an issue with HYPERTHREADING. I disabled HT for the CPU and the game ran smooth.

2) Diablo 3 had some weird issue that apparently worked better on an SSD but it should have been fixed long ago (I run on an SSD).

3) One or more of the Assassin's Creed games worked SLIGHTLY better on an SSD due to textures loading but you really had to sprint on the HORSE to notice.

4) SSHD:
Only get one for your MAIN DRIVE to speed up Windows.

**At $200, the best value overall is:
a) $90 Samsung 840 EVO (120GB) for main Windows/Apps, and
b) 2TB/3GB Hard Drive for games/steam/backups/downloads etc.

jwk3 · Mar 2, 2014

abdulhadi Khan :

This isn't necessarily true. Hard drives are used when loading maps and new game data when you first start the game, and any modern hard drive will be able to cope with loading the smaller updated data. The only slowness you'd notice with a slow drive is loading the game/map at the start.

EDIT: Photonboy has beaten me to it, well, +1 to his point!

Bad_Kitty13 · Mar 2, 2014

photonboy :

im just curious but did you do test on the games in a hybrid drive? i have seen the performance in read write boot etc but never seen any benches for hybrids in games like skyrim and even multiplayer fps when it comes to map loading. i know they have smart cache and are supposed to learn what the most frequent files you use are to store in the nand flash so it has faster access just like an ssd. im just curious to see if its a performance increase when it comes to loading and such being that the price isnt much more that a regular harddrive of the same specs

photonboy · Mar 2, 2014

RECOMMENDED DRIVES:

a) 120GB Samsung 840 EVO ($83 USD): http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te120bw

b) 2TB Seagate HDD ($88USD): http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm001

Installation:
1) Install/Clone Windows, drivers, etc to the SSD
2) Update SSD firmware, apply overprovisioning

3) STEAM/GAMES are installed to the Hard Drive (i.e. "E:\Steam" )
4) Media/Downloads also on Hard Drive (i.e. "E:\Media )

5) Use Acronis True Image (Seagate has same program with a different name at their site) to make a BACKUP IMAGE of your SSD once everything is updated etc in case you need to RESTORE

photonboy · Mar 2, 2014

HYBRID DRIVES and Games:

Generally pointless. They have a relatively SMALL amount of SSD memory (i.e. 8GB) so only the data stored in that location would be faster. SSHD's will keep track of frequently used files and move those over but once you have a few games installed the odds are you'll see little difference.

There are reviews online with consoles but they are FLAWED. If you had one or two games and started them a few times you'd get a noticeable benefit but again beyond a couple games it's pointless.

Again though, this is all about LOADING TIMES anyway and for most games it's not a big deal. I actually have a 2nd Steam folder on my second SSD for games like SKRYIM that load frequently (jump around the map).

Did you know you can have a SECOND STEAM folder and that you can MOVE a game to it? You can.

a) Create a 2nd Steam folder (i.e. my 250GB SSD which is F-Drive)
b) BACKUP the game
c) DELETE the game in Steam (local content)
c) RESTORE the backup but choose the 2nd Steam folder on installation
d) DELETE the backup if you wish (I keep for Skyrim in case mods screw anything up).

No issue with SAVES not being there for me in any game so far with Steam (stay in My Documents even if I DELETE the game).

**Another option which works well is to get a 250GB SSD and PARTITION it in two. The first part for Windows/apps and the SECOND part for a 2nd Steam folder. You can then MOVE only games that you currently play such as Skyrim, but you can also DELETE the game (keep backup on hard drive) when not needed to save valuable SSD space.

Since most people can fit 5+ games on 100GB that works pretty well.

Bad_Kitty13 · Mar 2, 2014

photonboy :

HYBRID DRIVES and Games:

Generally pointless. They have a relatively SMALL amount of SSD memory (i.e. 8GB) so only the data stored in that location would be faster. SSHD's will keep track of frequently used files and move those over but once you have a few games installed the odds are you'll see little difference.

There are reviews online with consoles but they are FLAWED. If you had one or two games and started them a few times you'd get a noticeable benefit but again beyond a couple games it's pointless.

Again though, this is all about LOADING TIMES anyway and for most games it's not a big deal. I actually have a 2nd Steam folder on my second SSD for games like SKRYIM that load frequently (jump around the map).

Did you know you can have a SECOND STEAM folder and that you can MOVE a game to it? You can.

a) Create a 2nd Steam folder (i.e. my 250GB SSD which is F-Drive)
b) BACKUP the game
c) DELETE the game in Steam (local content)
c) RESTORE the backup but choose the 2nd Steam folder on installation
d) DELETE the backup if you wish (I keep for Skyrim in case mods screw anything up).

No issue with SAVES not being there for me in any game so far with Steam (stay in My Documents even if I DELETE the game).

**Another option which works well is to get a 250GB SSD and PARTITION it in two. The first part for Windows/apps and the SECOND part for a 2nd Steam folder. You can then MOVE only games that you currently play such as Skyrim, but you can also DELETE the game (keep backup on hard drive) when not needed to save valuable SSD space.

Since most people can fit 5+ games on 100GB that works pretty well.

thanks for the info man i really appreciate it and i think im going to try your steam manipulation tachniquw

abdulhadi Khan · Mar 2, 2014

photonboy :

Games don't shutter/stutter due to a hard drive. Data is copied into the System or Video RAM and runs from there not directly from the hard drive which is the reason there USED to be issues.

There have been issues in the past, but not with modern games. I have specifically tested 200+ games to see how they compare on a good SSD compared to a Hard Drive.

The SSD loads games on average about 2x faster. That's nice for SKYRIM type games especially which have MAPS or BUILDINGS that require frequent loading.

*Another issue is that that hard drives become SLOWER as they fill up (mechanical rotation). If you access the data at the 2TB point on a 2TB drive it's slower than a comparable 3TB at the same point.

**My advice is get something like a Seagate 3TB 7200RPM drive that costs about $110 USD, and perhaps a 120GB Samsung 840 EVO for your Windows drive (games/Steam on the hard drive).

Other:
1) In WITCHER 1, I was convinced the stuttering was slow texture loading due to the hard drive. It turns out it was an issue with HYPERTHREADING. I disabled HT for the CPU and the game ran smooth.

2) Diablo 3 had some weird issue that apparently worked better on an SSD but it should have been fixed long ago (I run on an SSD).

3) One or more of the Assassin's Creed games worked SLIGHTLY better on an SSD due to textures loading but you really had to sprint on the HORSE to notice.

4) SSHD:
Only get one for your MAIN DRIVE to speed up Windows.

**At $200, the best value overall is:
a) $90 Samsung 840 EVO (120GB) for main Windows/Apps, and
b) 2TB/3GB Hard Drive for games/steam/backups/downloads etc.

so is gtx 660 ti with i3 4130 didn't get any frame stutter/shutter if i get 128 gb ssd for Windows

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