Adding a new Card to my Old Rig.

insertcoolnamehere · Mar 2, 2014

My XFX Radeon HD 6770 can't seem to run any version of CCC. So rather than try to fix it I'd rather get something better anyway with my tax money.
System specs:
-Windows 7 64bit
-Ultra LSX 750 PSU
-ASUS M4A78LT-M/cg1330/dp - MoBo
-AMD Phenom II 1045T x6 @ 2.7
-8Gb Dual Channel, DDR3 at 1333MHz
-40Gb SSD (for OS)
-WD 1Tb 7200rpm HDD (Storage)
-42in LG tv monitor

I would really prefer something that is not ATI/AMD, this card has been a bit of a pain from the start.
My CPU has been good to me but the GPU on the other hand....
My budget is up to $250, I mainly play WoW, but also like to play games like BF3, Skyrim, and the New Tomb Raider, with the highest possible settings, and still get at or above 60 fps, and 1920x1080 resolution.
I want to find a GPU for a single monitor, I don't plan on doing Crossfire or SLI or 3d. So nothing too extravagant if that will help reduce the price and up the performance better. Also I believe my Motherboard is incapable of Overclocking so that's one more thing to do without.

zeph_yr · Mar 2, 2014

I recommend a GTX 660, but I'm worried it will be bottlenecked by your CPU. A GTX 650 will give you some minor improvements in performance.

ekagori · Mar 2, 2014

For $250 go for the GTX 760, faster than a 660... It might bottleneck with your processor at stock though.

insertcoolnamehere · Mar 2, 2014

I might just go for the 650 it seems like a side-grade from my 6770 which runs Wow and other games good but not at the best settings. I can put the money left over to building my Dream Rig.
I don't want to have to overclock my GPU, and to that I'll have to get a Mobo that can OC. So the 650 seems like a good choice for the price and what I want over all.
Any other input appreciated.

ekagori · Mar 2, 2014

If you want more of an upgrade at an affordable price... try this new 750ti... almost as fast as a 650ti boost but uses much less power... doesn't even require auxiliary pci-e power cables.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp43751kr

insertcoolnamehere · Mar 4, 2014

Power consumption isn't a concern for me, and heating isn't really an issue. So far finding a GPU for less than what I paid for my 6770 at the same specs is difficult considering how old it is.

insertcoolnamehere · Mar 5, 2014

Decided to get a 'test' card from the store, it's not nearly as good as my previous card, but I wanted to see what would happen with a newly added card. I got the Radeon R5 230, I knew just from looking at it it wouldn't be very good, but it's sole purpose was to see if anything bad would happen. I can still take it back for a full refund.
So far the biggest issue was getting the Catalyst Control Center and updating the drivers. I think it kept over heating during the installation, but I was able to instal CCC with the internal graphics running.

insertcoolnamehere · Mar 10, 2014

I went with the PNY gtx 650, it works better than my old card. And I don't seem to have to change anything else to get the most out of it.

zeph_yr · Mar 10, 2014

insertcoolnamehere :

Glad to hear it's working.

insertcoolnamehere · Mar 11, 2014

Yeah it works great but right now I'm getting the "Windows Kernel Mode Driver has stopped working and has Recovered" It'll black screen for a second or two and come back on. What's weird is that so far it'll never do that as long as I have a game open. I've tried with WoW and Skyrim open and even with them minimized it won't crash, I can browse the internet and use programs like normal. But when I close the game it'll either be okay or start to crash every 4 seconds. If I leave it alone It's fine but as soon as I move the mouse or open something other than a game it crashes again.

zeph_yr · Mar 11, 2014

That's really odd. Did you install the drivers from the included disc or from their website?

insertcoolnamehere · Mar 12, 2014

zeph_yr :

I've tried both.

mamasan2000 · Mar 12, 2014

Turn off inbuilt graphics in BIOS.

insertcoolnamehere · Mar 12, 2014

mamasan2000 :

Could that be 'internal graphics mode-disabled' ? I have my primary video controller set to PCI-gfxo-gpp-igfx.
Also I'm gettin major multicolor pixels all over the screen even when I go into safe mode, this also occurred before the bios change above.

mamasan2000 · Mar 12, 2014

If your pixels are all funky, it usually means a scrapped graphics card. It's broken.

zeph_yr · Mar 12, 2014

Yep, probably broken. RMA it. That really sucks. I've never had a PNY card crap out on me like that.

insertcoolnamehere · Mar 12, 2014

mamasan2000 :

I think you are right, idk what I did wrong, but I can't load windows normally. If I remove the gpu and connect to my mobo everything runs perfectly. It's ok though I bought the extra warranty so getting it replaced shouldn't be a problem.

insertcoolnamehere · Mar 15, 2014

It's racking my brains trying to figure out what I did wrong. I was wondering if installing the gpu(physically putting it into the PCIe slot) before setting up the Primary video Controller is what caused it to be corrupted? Also is it normal for the Nvidia GPU text to show up first on boot before the ASUS logo or POST? Would Enabling PCIPnP help at all?
This is my first Nvidia card I always thought AMD CPU, AMD Mobo, might as well stick with an AMD GPU that way everything works.

mamasan2000 · Mar 15, 2014

If its broke, its broke. Probably already from manufacturing line, sometimes it just takes time b4 it breaks indefinately. Nothing anyone can do about that.

Nothing lasts forever.

insertcoolnamehere · Mar 16, 2014

mamasan2000 :

True, but still don't want to make the same mistake twice, that is, if I did. New card and all.

mamasan2000 · Mar 16, 2014

It is quite hard to break a card. I've forgotten to connect PCIE-power connector. I've plugged the card in while computer was powered on and GPU fan started spinning etc etc. I'm not recommending either of those.

Weirdest problem I've had is BIOS on GPU erased. I have no idea how that happened. I thought the card was lost and last step was to try and flash BIOS on it and it jumped back to life. Was an old Geforce256.

As long as you disconnect the power to computer and insert the card like you normally do, pick up the plastic bit at end of PCIE-slot, insert the card, push it in completely and connect power to it, you are fine.
Oh, and don't touch the 'golden' connectors. Those can start oxidising.

insertcoolnamehere · Mar 16, 2014

mamasan2000 :

The only thing I think I did wrong was physically installing the gpu into the pcie slot before I set up the bios. Re read the instructions and it says "Before you do anything, switch primary video controller to PCI"

cst1992 · Mar 16, 2014

It's not your fault at all. The card itself is defective. RMA it.
Oh, and overclocking a GPU does not require a compatible motherboard. And it's safe, as the drivers have protection.
That's what I love about GPU's: PCI-e 3.0 GPU's are compatible with my old 1.1 motherboard; no RAM compatibility issue to worry about, no overclocking compatibility issue, nothing. I even installed a card wrong once. It didn't boot; I reseated the card, and it works properly.

Also, before you give up on the card, did you do a clean driver installation? You need to uninstall the old card's drivers before you install new ones. Otherwise the computer acts weird.

insertcoolnamehere · Mar 17, 2014

Yeah, It was the first thing I did, and did it gladly, CCC always seemed to crash my pc (blue screen). Couldn't Run any version Higher than 8.5,
Went into Device manager and deleted all but my Integrated graphics under Display adapters. Also made sure no CCC or any other ATI software was installed under Programs and features.

I'm going in tomorrow to get it replaced, have to give up on it since when I instal it. My pc boots with messed up pixels from start to...well, start again. Since it can't load windows.

I currently have it out of my PC, and have my HDMI plugged into my Mobo. I'm able to use windows fine like this.

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