Want to upgrade to make FSX and X-Plane 10 Run Smoother
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tomcatguy74
March 2, 2014 6:01:40 PM
Approximate Purchase Date: One Year Ago
Budget Range: $500
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Internet, Watching Movies
Are you buying a monitor: No
Parts to Upgrade: Want to upgrade from a Geforce 550 TI
Do you need to buy OS: No
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Unsure of as of yet
Location: Spring Hill, FL USA
Parts Preferences: by brand or type Nvidia, Intel
Overclocking: Maybe Need to Learn
SLI or Crossfire: No
Your Monitor Resolution: 1600 X 900 32bit
Additional Comments: (e.g.: Need to have a window and lots of bling, I would like a quiet PC. Please also list specific software or games you're using)
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Want to run FSX and Xplane 10 Better and May Possibly Try Star Citizen. Already Playing Eve-Online which runs superb.
Hello all,
I am looking to upgrade my computer to something a little more powerful.
Currently I am running the following:
Gateway
Intel i5 2320 3.0ghz to 3.3ghz
EVGA Geforce GTX 550 Ti
8 GB Ram Upgradable to 16
Was looking into getting a better video card and was kinda being pointed to the GTX 760 2gb but not sure whether to get EVGA or Nvidia.
Wondering about installing a pcie 16 3.0 card into a 2.0 slot.......what will I lose?
Looking for advice as to what I should upgrade besides a video card.
Rob
Budget Range: $500
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Internet, Watching Movies
Are you buying a monitor: No
Parts to Upgrade: Want to upgrade from a Geforce 550 TI
Do you need to buy OS: No
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Unsure of as of yet
Location: Spring Hill, FL USA
Parts Preferences: by brand or type Nvidia, Intel
Overclocking: Maybe Need to Learn
SLI or Crossfire: No
Your Monitor Resolution: 1600 X 900 32bit
Additional Comments: (e.g.: Need to have a window and lots of bling, I would like a quiet PC. Please also list specific software or games you're using)
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Want to run FSX and Xplane 10 Better and May Possibly Try Star Citizen. Already Playing Eve-Online which runs superb.
Hello all,
I am looking to upgrade my computer to something a little more powerful.
Currently I am running the following:
Gateway
Intel i5 2320 3.0ghz to 3.3ghz
EVGA Geforce GTX 550 Ti
8 GB Ram Upgradable to 16
Was looking into getting a better video card and was kinda being pointed to the GTX 760 2gb but not sure whether to get EVGA or Nvidia.
Wondering about installing a pcie 16 3.0 card into a 2.0 slot.......what will I lose?
Looking for advice as to what I should upgrade besides a video card.
Rob
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tomcatguy74
March 2, 2014 6:32:15 PM
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tomcatguy74
March 2, 2014 6:53:15 PM
tomcatguy74
March 3, 2014 3:09:32 PM
You will probably get a big increase. The 760 is MANY times more powerful and 2 generations newer.
Nvidia is the company that releases the GPU, then companies like MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte, PNY, EVGA take them and put their own cooler and label on it. They are all basically the same card and perform the same.
Nvidia is the company that releases the GPU, then companies like MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte, PNY, EVGA take them and put their own cooler and label on it. They are all basically the same card and perform the same.
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tomcatguy74
March 3, 2014 3:33:34 PM
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March 15, 2014 5:13:27 AM
Ok so I have done some thinking.
I have purchased the 59.99 Academic version of Prepar3d. It will not run at max settings very well. I only get around 4-5 fps.
Would I get a huge increase if I step up my motherboard, CPU to an i7 and get the GTX 760 or 770?
Remember I have a best buy purchased Gateway with an i5 2320, 8gb ram, and an aftermarket EVGA GeForce GTX 550ti.
If I change CPU and motherboard can I use the same windows 7 that's on my hard drive or do I need to buy another copy because the windows installation is keyed to only the gateway motherboard and CPU?
I have purchased the 59.99 Academic version of Prepar3d. It will not run at max settings very well. I only get around 4-5 fps.
Would I get a huge increase if I step up my motherboard, CPU to an i7 and get the GTX 760 or 770?
Remember I have a best buy purchased Gateway with an i5 2320, 8gb ram, and an aftermarket EVGA GeForce GTX 550ti.
If I change CPU and motherboard can I use the same windows 7 that's on my hard drive or do I need to buy another copy because the windows installation is keyed to only the gateway motherboard and CPU?
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tomcatguy74
March 15, 2014 3:59:14 PM
Ok I will go with upgrading the gpu first.
I want the Geforce GTX 770.
I noticed that there are 2 distinct builds available.
1.http://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-sc-2...
2.http://www.bestbuy.com/site/geforce-gtx-770-2gb-gddr5-p...
Which brand and build do you think is best?
I want the Geforce GTX 770.
I noticed that there are 2 distinct builds available.
1.http://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-sc-2...
2.http://www.bestbuy.com/site/geforce-gtx-770-2gb-gddr5-p...
Which brand and build do you think is best?
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tomcatguy74
March 21, 2014 8:23:12 AM
Ok, I am a bit disappointed right now. I installed my new 770 card in the computer last night. Here is how it went.
I opened the case and removed the 550 ti and then realized that I did not have the 6 + 8 pin connectors that the 770 required. So to make sure I did some research and found that I do have a 6 pin and a 6 + 2 pin connector. Now I did some more research and found that the + 2 makes the 8 pin connecter from one of the 6 pin connectors. I guess its best of both worlds. Thought I was going to buy a new PSU.
Anyway I installed the card and buttoned everything up.
I started the computer and it started re-detecting everything including the 770. In this process it did install the latest drivers for my 770 because I did verify that with the nvidia website. So I assumed I did not need the disk that came with the 770.
After a restart of the computer I immediately started X-plane 10 and maxed out all the settings at which i was getting 1-2 FPS on the 550 ti
Once the sim loaded I watched the FPS Counter and there was only a 2-3 FPS difference from the 550 ti!!!! WTF!
On FS9 There was only a 15-20 FPS change
on FSX there was only a 5-10 FPS change
and on Prepar3d there was a 20 FPS change.
Remember, this is the difference from the 550 ti to the 770 with all sliders maxed!!
Am I expecting too much?
The benchmark for the 770 was 3-4 times higher than the 550 ti
What's the deal?
I opened the case and removed the 550 ti and then realized that I did not have the 6 + 8 pin connectors that the 770 required. So to make sure I did some research and found that I do have a 6 pin and a 6 + 2 pin connector. Now I did some more research and found that the + 2 makes the 8 pin connecter from one of the 6 pin connectors. I guess its best of both worlds. Thought I was going to buy a new PSU.
Anyway I installed the card and buttoned everything up.
I started the computer and it started re-detecting everything including the 770. In this process it did install the latest drivers for my 770 because I did verify that with the nvidia website. So I assumed I did not need the disk that came with the 770.
After a restart of the computer I immediately started X-plane 10 and maxed out all the settings at which i was getting 1-2 FPS on the 550 ti
Once the sim loaded I watched the FPS Counter and there was only a 2-3 FPS difference from the 550 ti!!!! WTF!
On FS9 There was only a 15-20 FPS change
on FSX there was only a 5-10 FPS change
and on Prepar3d there was a 20 FPS change.
Remember, this is the difference from the 550 ti to the 770 with all sliders maxed!!
Am I expecting too much?
The benchmark for the 770 was 3-4 times higher than the 550 ti
What's the deal?
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March 21, 2014 11:34:35 AM
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March 21, 2014 12:25:20 PM
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March 21, 2014 2:15:10 PM
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March 21, 2014 9:13:35 PM
tomcatguy74
March 22, 2014 12:09:02 PM
tomcatguy74
March 22, 2014 6:20:03 PM
tomcatguy74
March 22, 2014 8:51:01 PM
Hey, I am pulling the 770 out and returning it to the store. I have just been through a bad startup problem a fatal error in P3D.
Windows not starting. I think the card might be defective. When I loaded up my EVE-Online game, The graphics stuttered for like 15 seconds and that never happened on the 550 ti.
I think I might get the non-reference card too. Maybe this card is getting too hot because of such enclosed space.
I'm not sure but I am taking it out.
I ran another HWmonitor test with XP10 so I have those graphs if you want them.
Windows not starting. I think the card might be defective. When I loaded up my EVE-Online game, The graphics stuttered for like 15 seconds and that never happened on the 550 ti.
I think I might get the non-reference card too. Maybe this card is getting too hot because of such enclosed space.
I'm not sure but I am taking it out.
I ran another HWmonitor test with XP10 so I have those graphs if you want them.
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March 22, 2014 9:37:23 PM
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March 23, 2014 11:18:53 AM
tomcatguy74
March 23, 2014 11:54:59 AM
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You do not have 2 monitors so in order to get the reading you must play the game normally with task manager running in the background. It can be minimized, doesn't matter. It will still record data. Then quit the game and go look at the task manager graphs. Oh I already did that. That's what the percentages above were from.
The CPU is running at 52% and the 8 gb ram is running at 5.11gb or 63%
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tomcatguy74
March 23, 2014 3:34:04 PM
tiny voices said:
What is your GPU max usage? If it is not 100%, then none of these things are the problem at all and something is wrong. You do have the monitor connected to the GPU not the motherboard right?
It's hard for me to explain to you what's happening. I just took pictures of xp10 at full screen with task manager and a program called gpu-z in small windows. Can I send them to you?
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March 23, 2014 4:51:11 PM
Hey, here are my pics and graphs for the 770. The graphs were from last night off HWMonitor Pro. The GPU Window is from GPU-Z
Hope this helps
<iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/tomcatguy74/embed/slide..."></iframe>
Hope this helps
<iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/tomcatguy74/embed/slide..."></iframe>
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March 23, 2014 5:19:53 PM
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March 23, 2014 5:31:14 PM
Well I asked about the same setup on xplane forums and was told that I am expecting too much. That no one can run xp10 at max yet. I just expected too much maybe. I still think there is a problem with the card because I got two bsod today because of an audbus.sys page fault. I thought that might be because of the new card. I am wondering if it's running too hot because of the tight area it's in. Might need to get the EVGA 770. It's got an open fan chassis. Might run cooler.
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March 23, 2014 6:10:12 PM
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March 23, 2014 6:21:03 PM
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March 23, 2014 6:27:49 PM
tomcatguy74 said:
Ok, I am a bit disappointed right now. I installed my new 770 card in the computer last night. Here is how it went.After a restart of the computer I immediately started X-plane 10 and maxed out all the settings at which i was getting 1-2 FPS on the 550 ti
Once the sim loaded I watched the FPS Counter and there was only a 2-3 FPS difference from the 550 ti!!!! WTF!
As a long time X-Plane user (and aircraft developer) I can tell you positively that there isn't a PC on the planet that can run X-Plane 10 with all settings maxed out. Not gonna happen. It's that way by design. Head on over to x-plane.org, create an account, and talk to the experts there.
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