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Will my motherboard work with i5 4570?

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March 2, 2014 8:50:20 PM

It came with stock FX 6300 but I am thinking of changing the CPU.
Will it work though? CPU-Z says the model of the motherboard is M51BC, chipset is RD9x0. I couldn't find any information online about it.

If an intel cpu is not compatible, will the board work with FX 8350??
Would my 500w PSU be enough for the new CPU?

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March 2, 2014 9:01:14 PM

if it came with a 6300 that means it is a am3+ socket and not compatible with a 4670 1150 socket cpu
your board can support a 8350 as they are the same socket type, but why are you trying upgrade? if it is for gaming you should replace the lowend graphics card it has first. if you like you can give me a budget on what you can spend and i can find something for you
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March 2, 2014 9:05:13 PM

find your model here some support the fx8300 https://www.google.ca/#q=M51BC intel wont work on amd board .also before upgrading check the psu power output .
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March 2, 2014 9:11:43 PM

Bad_Kitty13 said:
if it came with a 6300 that means it is a am3+ socket and not compatible with a 4670 1150 socket cpu
your board can support a 8350 as they are the same socket type, but why are you trying upgrade? if it is for gaming you should replace the lowend graphics card it has first. if you like you can give me a budget on what you can spend and i can find something for you


Thats unfortunate... Thanks for reponding though. I already replaced the stock graphic card with a gtx 760. But I wasn't getting very ideal frame rate in multiplayer games such as planetside 2, so I thought maybe I should also replace the CPU. I was looking for a $200~230ish upgrade thus I chose the i5 4570, too bad its not gonna work.
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March 2, 2014 9:12:42 PM

nope. as the previous two posters accurately said, it's an AM3+ motherboard, it will only work with amd cpus, and the obvious upgrade for a 6300 is a fx 8320 or fx 8350.
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March 2, 2014 9:13:16 PM

Oh and I just opened the case to check, the motherboard is m5a97 evo2.
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March 2, 2014 9:14:42 PM

ingtar33 said:
nope. as the previous two posters accurately said, it's an AM3+ motherboard, it will only work with amd cpus, and the obvious upgrade for a 6300 is a fx 8320 or fx 8350.

How much of a difference do you think 8350 will bring in compared to 6300? I was getting ok average frame rate (50ish) in maxed out games. But the minimum fps was killing me, they were all like 20ish.

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March 2, 2014 9:42:37 PM

709zzy said:
ingtar33 said:
nope. as the previous two posters accurately said, it's an AM3+ motherboard, it will only work with amd cpus, and the obvious upgrade for a 6300 is a fx 8320 or fx 8350.

How much of a difference do you think 8350 will bring in compared to 6300? I was getting ok average frame rate (50ish) in maxed out games. But the minimum fps was killing me, they were all like 20ish.



understand a 6300 will get you over 60fps in darned near EVERY game on the market when overclocked to 4.4ghz. The only other thing that can hold back your system is the video card. If you're getting 20fps in EVERY game, i suspect your video card is to blame.

If you have a good video card then i can walk you through getting that 6300 up to 4.4ghz... many piledrivers can do that much without even increasing the voltage to the cpu. That motherboard is an excellent overclocking motherboard as well (i know because i have a similar one)
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March 2, 2014 9:51:30 PM

709zzy said:
ingtar33 said:
nope. as the previous two posters accurately said, it's an AM3+ motherboard, it will only work with amd cpus, and the obvious upgrade for a 6300 is a fx 8320 or fx 8350.

How much of a difference do you think 8350 will bring in compared to 6300? I was getting ok average frame rate (50ish) in maxed out games. But the minimum fps was killing me, they were all like 20ish.



your mobo does support 8350 however it doesnt look like it does much better than the 8350

https://teksyndicate.com/forum/cpu/amd-fx-6300-performs...

this is just a forum thread but i cant find any hard benchmarks, you could always get another 760 and sli
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March 2, 2014 10:21:52 PM

ingtar33 said:
709zzy said:
ingtar33 said:
nope. as the previous two posters accurately said, it's an AM3+ motherboard, it will only work with amd cpus, and the obvious upgrade for a 6300 is a fx 8320 or fx 8350.

How much of a difference do you think 8350 will bring in compared to 6300? I was getting ok average frame rate (50ish) in maxed out games. But the minimum fps was killing me, they were all like 20ish.



understand a 6300 will get you over 60fps in darned near EVERY game on the market when overclocked to 4.4ghz. The only other thing that can hold back your system is the video card. If you're getting 20fps in EVERY game, i suspect your video card is to blame.

If you have a good video card then i can walk you through getting that 6300 up to 4.4ghz... many piledrivers can do that much without even increasing the voltage to the cpu. That motherboard is an excellent overclocking motherboard as well (i know because i have a similar one)


Sorry, what I meant was the min fps is usually quite low. When I record the frame rate of a segment of gameplay using fraps, the excel file contains 3 values. Min Max and Average. I often get 50 fps for the average value, but the min tends to be quite low such as 20 or 15. I remember reading a thread saying that CPU affects the min value while the GPU affects the average value, thats why I was thinking of replacing my CPU.

For overclocking, I only have the default cooler right now for the 6300, but please do tell what is the safe way of overclocking, so I could try it after buying a cooler in the coming weekend.
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March 2, 2014 11:16:36 PM

709zzy said:
Sorry, what I meant was the min fps is usually quite low. When I record the frame rate of a segment of gameplay using fraps, the excel file contains 3 values. Min Max and Average. I often get 50 fps for the average value, but the min tends to be quite low such as 20 or 15. I remember reading a thread saying that CPU affects the min value while the GPU affects the average value, thats why I was thinking of replacing my CPU.

For overclocking, I only have the default cooler right now for the 6300, but please do tell what is the safe way of overclocking, so I could try it after buying a cooler in the coming weekend.


a lot of things can affect FPS... it's not necessarily the cpu. but lets go with that idea for now. As piledriver begs to be overclocked and it sounds like you're interested in trying.

I don't know what your budget is, but if you want moderate overclocks I suggest a hyper evo 212 for $30. if you want a more aggressive overclock (and that motherboard certainly can hit high clock speeds safely); i suggest an h100, h80i or h100i as the baseline. Stick to closed loop liquid coolers, ideally one of those three, though there are others out there in the same performance range.

After that it's just a matter of going into your bios and turning off power states like c1 & c6, quiet and cool as well, bumping up your LLC settings, turning off offset mode ~ ah there are a few things you have to do to set the stage. here is a copy and paste of some quick and dirty piledriver overclocking instructions i just typed up tonight in another thread.

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Go into the bios, go to the advanced tab, scroll down to the cpu, change it from automatic to manual, this will unlock most of the overclocking options. Now go to the turbo, and change it from automatic to disabled. Then go to quiet and cool, turn it off. Turn off c1 and c6 power states. Go to your LLC settings and change the cpu to ultra (or whatever that bios calls it's highest setting), and the northbridge to high. jump down to the voltage control, turn off offset mode, and change the voltage setting from automatic to manual. manually set it to whatever voltage the cpu is currently operating at (this is different on every chip, so i can't tell you what to set it too. it will probably be somewhere between 1.32-1.38 volts. Do the same to the northbridge (this also varies chip to chip, but should be somewhere around 1.1-1.2 volts). Now slow down your northbridge and hypertransport speeds to 2000 (note the original settings)... keep them the same speed. make sure the cpu frequency is 200, save and reset your computer.

now you're ready to overclock.

go back into the bios and Head back up to the top and change the multiplier by +0.5, keep the cpu frequency at 200. save and restart. Make sure you can load into windows. Save and restart. load into your bios and bump the cpu multiplier by 0.5 again. save and load into windows.

Keep doing this until you no longer can load into windows or POST. If the pc fails to post typically it will reset your bios to stock settings after 3 failures... sometimes this doesn't happen. You can fix that problem by clr_cmos.

anyway, once you run into trouble, you'll know what your last good setting was. make sure your bios is identical to that setting. load into windows, download Intel Burn Test - AVX, and HWMonitor. Keeping an eye on your cpu core temp and motherboard socket temp, run IBT on it's 2nd toughest setting for 10 passes. if any result is a negative number the cpu failed. if the program crashes, a negative number comes on any core in IBT-AVX or your computer blue screens or simply resets you'll need to add vcore. (this will probably happen somewhere around 4.2-4.6ghz, almost all piledriver chips can get to those clock speeds on stock voltage)

Load back into your bios and increase your vcore by +0.0125V. save and restart, try IBT-AVX again. continue bumping vcore until your system passes IBT-AVX or your computer temps get too high (core temp over 65C and socket temp over 72C). assuming you can pass 10 runs of IBT-AVX without overheating or failing the test, you can bump your cpu multiplier another step. from this point on you'll need to test the overclocks with IBT-AVX until temps stop your overclocking. once you get to a ghz which maxes your cooling, you'll need to run IBT-AVX on it's hardest settings for 10 passes, to insure you're completely stable.

Assuming you pass you'll be good to go.

Now go back into the bios. turn c1&c6 back on. Save and make sure your computer will post, load into the bios, increase the northbridge and hypertransport to their stock settings (this depends on the motherboard), save and restart, assuming it posts, see if you can't get it to work with the NB frequency at the same speed as the HT... piledriver gets it's best performance from a 2600/2600 setup... but only some motherboards will give you this, the evo might... mine couldn't... It only got me to 2400/2600... but yours might.
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March 3, 2014 8:08:19 AM

ingtar33 said:
709zzy said:
Sorry, what I meant was the min fps is usually quite low. When I record the frame rate of a segment of gameplay using fraps, the excel file contains 3 values. Min Max and Average. I often get 50 fps for the average value, but the min tends to be quite low such as 20 or 15. I remember reading a thread saying that CPU affects the min value while the GPU affects the average value, thats why I was thinking of replacing my CPU.

For overclocking, I only have the default cooler right now for the 6300, but please do tell what is the safe way of overclocking, so I could try it after buying a cooler in the coming weekend.


a lot of things can affect FPS... it's not necessarily the cpu. but lets go with that idea for now. As piledriver begs to be overclocked and it sounds like you're interested in trying.

I don't know what your budget is, but if you want moderate overclocks I suggest a hyper evo 212 for $30. if you want a more aggressive overclock (and that motherboard certainly can hit high clock speeds safely); i suggest an h100, h80i or h100i as the baseline. Stick to closed loop liquid coolers, ideally one of those three, though there are others out there in the same performance range.

After that it's just a matter of going into your bios and turning off power states like c1 & c6, quiet and cool as well, bumping up your LLC settings, turning off offset mode ~ ah there are a few things you have to do to set the stage. here is a copy and paste of some quick and dirty piledriver overclocking instructions i just typed up tonight in another thread.

Quote:
Go into the bios, go to the advanced tab, scroll down to the cpu, change it from automatic to manual, this will unlock most of the overclocking options. Now go to the turbo, and change it from automatic to disabled. Then go to quiet and cool, turn it off. Turn off c1 and c6 power states. Go to your LLC settings and change the cpu to ultra (or whatever that bios calls it's highest setting), and the northbridge to high. jump down to the voltage control, turn off offset mode, and change the voltage setting from automatic to manual. manually set it to whatever voltage the cpu is currently operating at (this is different on every chip, so i can't tell you what to set it too. it will probably be somewhere between 1.32-1.38 volts. Do the same to the northbridge (this also varies chip to chip, but should be somewhere around 1.1-1.2 volts). Now slow down your northbridge and hypertransport speeds to 2000 (note the original settings)... keep them the same speed. make sure the cpu frequency is 200, save and reset your computer.

now you're ready to overclock.

go back into the bios and Head back up to the top and change the multiplier by +0.5, keep the cpu frequency at 200. save and restart. Make sure you can load into windows. Save and restart. load into your bios and bump the cpu multiplier by 0.5 again. save and load into windows.

Keep doing this until you no longer can load into windows or POST. If the pc fails to post typically it will reset your bios to stock settings after 3 failures... sometimes this doesn't happen. You can fix that problem by clr_cmos.

anyway, once you run into trouble, you'll know what your last good setting was. make sure your bios is identical to that setting. load into windows, download Intel Burn Test - AVX, and HWMonitor. Keeping an eye on your cpu core temp and motherboard socket temp, run IBT on it's 2nd toughest setting for 10 passes. if any result is a negative number the cpu failed. if the program crashes, a negative number comes on any core in IBT-AVX or your computer blue screens or simply resets you'll need to add vcore. (this will probably happen somewhere around 4.2-4.6ghz, almost all piledriver chips can get to those clock speeds on stock voltage)

Load back into your bios and increase your vcore by +0.0125V. save and restart, try IBT-AVX again. continue bumping vcore until your system passes IBT-AVX or your computer temps get too high (core temp over 65C and socket temp over 72C). assuming you can pass 10 runs of IBT-AVX without overheating or failing the test, you can bump your cpu multiplier another step. from this point on you'll need to test the overclocks with IBT-AVX until temps stop your overclocking. once you get to a ghz which maxes your cooling, you'll need to run IBT-AVX on it's hardest settings for 10 passes, to insure you're completely stable.

Assuming you pass you'll be good to go.

Now go back into the bios. turn c1&c6 back on. Save and make sure your computer will post, load into the bios, increase the northbridge and hypertransport to their stock settings (this depends on the motherboard), save and restart, assuming it posts, see if you can't get it to work with the NB frequency at the same speed as the HT... piledriver gets it's best performance from a 2600/2600 setup... but only some motherboards will give you this, the evo might... mine couldn't... It only got me to 2400/2600... but yours might.



I can't seem to find any of the options for voltage control and overclocking other than turning on or off for cool and quiet and c1e+c6.

This is what my BIOS look looks like under the advanced tab:


This is all there is under the CPU config option:

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March 3, 2014 2:15:26 PM

sorry the rest of that stuff is under the main tab. :D 

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