Semi New to Pc Gaming

DerBear · Mar 3, 2014

So i Sold my pc a few months ago and it was a decent beginner Pc. I bought a ps4 and want to get a gaming pc again. I Dont Know alot about pc component where can i learn about what components are good ad everything ? how did you learn ? and how much would it be to build a decent Gaming rig hopefully Not to expensive Tho.

tiny voices · Mar 3, 2014

I learned by reading these forums every day for months.

What is your budget? What settings do you plat to play on?

Do you need to buy an OS or monitor?

IDontUnderstand · Mar 3, 2014

Decent is a very opinion based adjective lol
You can be running at 'decent' 60 fps with 720p or 1080p, but those require different hardware achieve.
I learned about hardware and PC building through reading forum, answering questions (like now). In addition, taking class, reading article, reviews, etc. Lastly, if you're talking strictly about what is a good components for your PC build, then definitely reviews from reputable sources and on online stores like newegg.com

DerBear · Mar 3, 2014

tiny voices :

I was thinking ideally 350$ to 400$ And I Need A Os And I have a Old monitor i Can use and than upgrade later on

DerBear · Mar 3, 2014

tiny voices :

And also at least Medium

tiny voices · Mar 3, 2014

If you need an OS and want to play at medium settings comfortably at 1080p you will need to start at $550 or more.

DerBear · Mar 3, 2014

IDontUnderstand :

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Like a mid level pc 720p is fine Just want to run smooth on Medium settings

DerBear · Mar 3, 2014

tiny voices :

What if i Had 720 would it be much cheaper or no? im only gonna be playing games that are not on ps4 such as titanfall etc. so i wont be using it a ton. So im Not trying to spend a ton on it.

tiny voices · Mar 3, 2014

For medium settings at 720P in demanding games and an OS you will still be spending $500 minimum. Even then thats hard because that only leaves $400 for the PC after buying the OS.

DerBear · Mar 3, 2014

Well with my budget would i be better off buying someones old rig off ebay or craigslist or building my own?

tiny voices · Mar 3, 2014

I would personally not buy a used rig. You can get luck sometimes and get a good deal, but often times you get used, old, unreliable , and low quality parts that someone just threw together.

USAFRet · Mar 3, 2014

DerBear :

Probably not. You'll end up spending money on parts that will be substandard and need to be replaced.
e.g. Buying a PSU twice.

DerBear · Mar 3, 2014

tiny voices :

Aright sounds about right. So in your honest opinion what would be a good starting base that i can get and upgrade as time goes on and thanks for the help man.

IDontUnderstand · Mar 3, 2014

Actually I think you can do 720p in medium with this build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-6790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI A88XM-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: Sentey CS1-1398 PLUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $402.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-03 18:39 EST-0500)

tiny voices · Mar 3, 2014

I would not spend $400 on a computer and expect to upgrade it alot.

If you built a $400 computer and then wanted to upgrade the GPU, you would also have to upgrade the PSU, and then the more powerful GPU would more than likely be bottlenecked by the low end CPU.

You don't really build a cheap computer with the intentions to upgrade it. You generally build a solid mid-range computer and then have the ability to upgrade.

DerBear · Mar 3, 2014

IDontUnderstand :

Actually I think you can do 720p in medium with this build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-6790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI A88XM-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: Sentey CS1-1398 PLUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $402.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-03 18:39 EST-0500)[
is it upgraded easy enough and just curious why windows 8 instead of 7?

DerBear · Mar 3, 2014

tiny voices :

Well i meant upgrade as the time goes on like if i find myself needing more ram so on

tiny voices · Mar 3, 2014

DerBear :

IDontUnderstand :

No this has basically no upgrade path and even at 720p it will struggle at medium settings in demanding games.

tiny voices · Mar 3, 2014

DerBear :

You would not need to add RAM. The things you would change are GPU mainly and the CPU. Both of these would require changing alot of the rest of the build on a budget computer.

IDontUnderstand · Mar 3, 2014

I think it will do alright in 720p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK4oA97oSZI

tiny voices · Mar 3, 2014

IDontUnderstand :

He also has the CPU HEAVILY overclocked and the iGPU separately overclocked which requires software hacks. He also has VERY fast RAM which matters ALOT for an APU, and he has the video RAM set up in a special array.

This is NOT the performance to expect unless you want to go through all these processes. Also he only averages 30fps with dips as low as 15fps.

IDontUnderstand · Mar 3, 2014

That was on high graphic settings though. In addition, my build consists of A10-6790K and the video was on A10-5800K.
A10-6790K offers a little bit better iGPU.

tiny voices · Mar 3, 2014

It also offers basically no upgrade path through.

IDontUnderstand · Mar 3, 2014

AMD might come up with more Kaveri in the future, also HSA might make it look even more appealing, if that ever catches on.

Another video that shows performance when using A10-6800K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUYn4kFV-xc
Careful if you're using headphone.

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