i7 4770k vs i5 4670k vs fx 8350

sleemunskey · Mar 4, 2014

hi, i am building my first gaming rig and i dont know wich cpu I should take between the i7 4770k the i5 4670k and the amd fx 8350. I will play games like battlefield 4 at ultra .With mantle will the fx and the i7 take adventage of there 8 theards ?
For the gpu I will take the 280x or the 290.

thanks

veladem · Mar 4, 2014

Best price/performance here is the 4670K, if the budget allows a good cooler and some slight OC if you want. But a OC isn't even needed.

As for the GPU, to each their own, right now I'd go for a GTX Geforce because of the spike in AMD card because of there usefulness in cryptomining.

sleemunskey · Mar 4, 2014

but with mantle are the r9 better then the gtx .. (i will not do cryptomining)

veladem · Mar 4, 2014

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1951330/gtx-780-290.html

Get a 780 instead of a 290 I say.

sleemunskey · Mar 4, 2014

ok but i juste have know that for a graphics card i just have 400$ .. so wich is better 770 or 280x

barto · Mar 4, 2014

As veladem said, the 4670k is the best CPU on the market. The 4770k is has little improvement over the 4670k in games as very few games actually use Hyperthreading. The 8350 is a good CPU from AMD but in order to keep up with the 4670k, you would need to overclock it.

With Mantle, the stronger the CPU you have, the less % performance increase there is. For example, if you have a 280x paired with an AMD APU, you could have a performance boost of 40% (that doesn't mean a boost on ultra settings. It means whatever the sustainable settings are (could be med, high etc)). If you have an 8350 or an 4670k, the boost will be less than 10%.

I do think if you can afford the price hike getting an R9 with a 4670k. However, the sweet spot right now is the 4670k and the 770GTX (for a budget).

sweenytodd · Mar 4, 2014

4670K + good cpu cooler = 4770k. Ditto here with GTX 770, stretch is to 780 if want eye candy. Waiting for AMD gpus to drop prices is pointless and you could be waiting for at least a year.

sleemunskey · Mar 4, 2014

ok but for futurproofing is it better to go with the i7 ?

Dblkk · Mar 4, 2014

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html
toms just, just did an updated best gpu's for budget. I'd go gtx 770, unless your multiple monitor, then 780 or 780ti might be better. But for anything just single monitor theres really no reason to spend more than the 770.

Also, the fx wont have any impact with mantle. Mantle is for graphics card processing, the fx doesn't even have onboard graphics, so mantle does nothing.

On that note, if your video editing or high intensive programing, then fx 8350 to save a couple hundred, or 4770k if you just want the best.
If your just gaming, and going to do some picture editing and such but not to often, get the i5.
Theres no benefit for anything higher than i5 in gaming or most other applications.

Dblkk · Mar 4, 2014

sleemunskey :

Future proofing....
Heres my scoop on that
i5 is quad core, i7 is quad core with hyper threading.
Games aren't at more than like 2 cores right now, and maybe maybe will get to 4 cores. But not for a while, and I mean a while. Theres really no need, as when your using a graphics card the computing is far higher speeds using graphics card than it really is cpu (short of a very few amount of cpu intensive games but those are older). So in a long time from now, games ' might ' use all your i5 power.

i7 is really only needed or will benefit you at all, if you need 8 cores (4 cores and hyperthreading). Such as cs5 photoshop, cad, rendering, blender,ect. And even then, then very strong core performance out of the i5 will net you great results. It's not unless your using massive programs like stated above on a regular basis, normally for work, that does it honestly even benefit you in the least on the i7. Its really bragging rights.

barto · Mar 4, 2014

sleemunskey :

Some people don't like that term simply because nothing is future proof.

Again, if you don't have a reason for Hyperthreading, you're literally spending the extra $100 for 5% performance boost which can easily be achieved by overclocking.

Right now, the only game that comes to mind that might use the i7 to it's full capabilities is WatchDogs. The game hasn't been released yet so performance results are speculation.

sweenytodd · Mar 4, 2014

If you have money to spend for the 4770k then why not, just you won't notice the improvement in games. The reason people buy i7 is for additional performance for CPU intensive applications like video and photo editing, engineering calculations. The 4670K can power two GTX 780 Ti SLI and you will have no bottlenecking issues.

sleemunskey · Mar 4, 2014

in my country the 770 and the 280x are the same price

Dblkk · Mar 4, 2014

barto :

Totally agree with you there. And even watchdogs, "might" benefit from the hyperthreading. I really doubt it. And if it does, if you have either i5 or i7 with a gtx 770 or so, the 5-10 fps difference, does it really matter at 60 fps plus? lets say 72 fps on i5 with 770. and 78 with i7 and 770. Wow, that worth $100 or so bucks, lol. But monitors will only display 60fps.

sleemunskey · Mar 4, 2014

i have money for the i7 but if it does nothing in games so i will buy the i5

sweenytodd · Mar 4, 2014

Yes, go with the i5. The $100 extra goes to the GPU ($400 is your budget), add that up and you have the option to get the GTX 780.

sleemunskey · Mar 4, 2014

in canada the 770 is $339 but the 780 is $520 its $200 of difference

veladem · Mar 4, 2014

Bout right. 770 or 780 is fine.

barto · Mar 4, 2014

Dblkk :

Well according to the system requirements the WatchDogs is going to be pretty CPU based. Some sites show the need for a 6-Core Intel CPU for Ultra settings.
http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/03/watch-dogs-pc-specs-revealed-in-full-get-the-list-here/
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/10/08/watch-dogs-system-requirements-announced-specify-64-bit-os-and-minimum-6-gb-of-ram/
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=4546&game=Watch+Dogs

The AMD fannies will come out for the one example where their bargain 8core CPU was the greatest decision ever made.

Personally, I'd look at the best CPU for the situation.

sleemunskey · Mar 4, 2014

i think i made my choise and its an i5 with an 780 thanks everybody

EpicFreddHD · Oct 27, 2014

http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/734/bench/CPU_01.png

I own a 8350 and my roomate a 4670k , i beat him in every benchamrk , Bf Ultra lokking in the same direction , same time server adn I get 3-5 fps more , ALWAYS , I did 4k benchamrk (I own 2 gtx 970 and he borrowed my second 970) I got 4k High 44 fps and he 37 , same single player cutscene , and I compared to a 4770k and I still got 2 fps more (4k High settings) with 4k Ultra settigns with Msaa off I get 55-64 fps , and most of the time its above 60 , so go for the read time for now

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