Worth upgrading from i7-860 to i5-4670

nokker

Distinguished
Oct 4, 2011
7
0
18,510
Is it worth upgrading from a i7-860 to an i5-4670?

My second question is the motherboard you choose important? On my i7-860 @ 3.0ghz got the intel dp55wg .

670 gtx msi twin frozer oc
4gb @ 1333mhz.

What could really improve my fps? changing motherboard? Buying a Ssd? more ram? more faster ram?
 
Solution
I would add more ram and overclock your i7 a bit. It is still a pretty decent CPU. I would hold out till broadwell.



If you do upgrade, I agree with this suggestion. Especially agree on the 1230v3, but would try for an H87 if you want to do any kind of raid configuration using the motherboard's controller. Z87 is necessary if you want multi-gpu. The 1230 v3 and the 4670k are only like $10 apart in price. 4670k if you truly want to overclock. Don't need such an expensive board though.
With the memory and pci-e controller as a part of the cpu, the motherboard does not have as much performance impact as it once did(the chipset used to make quite a difference as it was a bottleneck on many boards). Each maker does tweak the bios to get a performance difference however.

You will need a new board for that cpu anyway so pick one with all the features you want and a good power delivery system if you want to overclock.

SSD's improve load times, not frame rates
More ram may reduce some stuttering/pausing if the game has to use the page file(this varies by a games requirements).
Faster memory can actually help a bit. not as much as the new cpu in your case should.
 

nokker

Distinguished
Oct 4, 2011
7
0
18,510
Didn't even watch, but i don't think it is getting bottlenecked. I'm not getting horrible fps , but it seems like i do get some delay in games while having a great ping (latency) maybe it's my computer screen? it's an old lcd . So could it be that it's the onboard internet chip from my motherboard that is making that delay? Does a better motherboard really improve internet or even sound. Some motherboards got like Realtec and other creative sound
 

AshyCFC

Honorable
A newer motherboard won't change your internet speed and your sound should be adequate for gaming.

In my opinion a 4570K + Z87 mobo for overclocking or B85 Mobo + Xeon 1230 V3/4770(if you don't want to OC) will improve your performance.
 

nokker

Distinguished
Oct 4, 2011
7
0
18,510
i'm not saying that it is really changing my internet speed, but could there be a little delay between a newer motherboard vs and older one. i"m prob gonna buy the maximus Vi hero with the 4670k. I got a power supply antec 850 watt. Should i change that?
 
Another 4GB of RAM would help more than faster RAM. Before you play another game, Open up Task Manager and click the Performance tab. Start your game up and and play for a few minutes then Alt+Tab out and check your RAM usage levels. If you are at or very near total RAM saturation, this could easily cripple your performance in games. SSD's do nothing for FPS.
 
Use something like msi afterburner to monitor gpu usage and see how it looks.

If the gpu usage is low and the cpu usage is high, it means the cpu is not keeping up. if the gpu usage is near max, the gpu is able to keep up so you do not have as much to gain.

Please note that i7's LOOK like they are not maxed when they may be(any multi core can have this, but hyper threading makes it look even less loaded). If a game can only use 2 cores then it will never show over 25% usage yet still be running out of cpu power.

cpu bound on an i7 2600k @ 4.4(without HT it would show 94%+ cpu usage). gpu usage of only 68%.
2mnr5hh.png


gpu bound(video card can not keep up)
3481wyg.png


I personally notice a substantial difference from my i7 750 to my i7[but it is overclocked] 2600k(an i5 2500k games as well as a 2600k in most cases anyway.)
 

AshyCFC

Honorable
Your antec 850w is good for 4670k OCed(as much as you can keep cool) + ANY single GPU and SOME GPU's in crossfire/SLI

You don't need a new PSU for sure and no the change in mobo should in no way effect your internet speed.

An additional 4GB RAM should help, grab another stick of the RAM you have BEFORE upgrading CPU/mobo would be good.
 
The additional 4GB RAM stick would be the best upgrade for you, right now. I run 6GB with a 64-bit OS. I assume you have a 64-bit OS also. I'm willing to bet you are bottlenecked by your RAM capacity if you are playing games like BF4/Skyrim/ARMA etc.... or any other graphically intense games. I know this because I am very close to this point right now with 6GB of system RAM and a 1GB VRAM GPU. You are running a 2GB VRAM card with only 4GB system memory on a 64-bit OS. This is not good for gaming performance on today's most taxing titles.
 

logainofhades

Titan
Moderator
I would add more ram and overclock your i7 a bit. It is still a pretty decent CPU. I would hold out till broadwell.



If you do upgrade, I agree with this suggestion. Especially agree on the 1230v3, but would try for an H87 if you want to do any kind of raid configuration using the motherboard's controller. Z87 is necessary if you want multi-gpu. The 1230 v3 and the 4670k are only like $10 apart in price. 4670k if you truly want to overclock. Don't need such an expensive board though.
 
Solution

TRENDING THREADS