Water Cooling System + Eyefinity New Build - Looking for advice

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Hello,

I am looking to build a new computer in the next month and started doing research on basically everything, since I haven't built a computer in at least 5-6 years. After reading so many articles my mind is boggled and I have become indecisive on a few things. I want to water cool my system, overclock it and run an multi-monitor (eyefinity) set up as well. It is the most intense and complicated (for me) build I've ever done.

The below specs are my potential build for gaming while online streaming, Photoshop/Video editing and rendering GoPro footage, media center in room.

Case: Corsair 650D (Have)
Cooling: Corsair H100i using replacement fans
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K (socket 1150)
GPU: AMD or Nvidia?
PSU: Corsair AX760i
RAM: Good brand? (That can be maxed at 16-32GB with mobo eventually)
SSD: 256GB Samsung 840 Pro
MOBO: ASUS, ASRock, MSI, Gigabyte - Mobo that is wifi enabled, bluetooth 3.0, SLI/CrossFire Ready, has PCI or PCIe slots.
Monitor: x3 23-24" eyefinity
OS: Windows 8.1 x64

I am torn right now on motherboards, specific monitors (I've done some research), and either using AMD or Nvidia for eyefinity set up. Also, it needs to be an extremely quiet computer, as tinnitus has gotten the better of me and even slight constant noises get annoying.

Mobo needs to be RAID compatible, SLI/CrossFire compatible, able to max at 16-32GB, x1 USB 3.0, wifi and bluetooth enabled if possible. Any suggestions?

So, if anyone can give me compatibility experience or any advice, I would greatly appreciate it!
 
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It's always better to build to a goal, rather than trying to make the build fit something retroactively. You'll spend a lot less, and you are more likely to avoid pitfalls along the way. Arbitrarily saying "I want to watercool" is fine, but kinda misleading, as it implies full watercooling, rather than closed loop coolers, which are very common, and more or less interchangeable with air coolers.

For CPUs, you are almost undoubtedly better off sticking with the mainstream socket 1150, and the associated Z87 motherboards. The Rampage boards do have some advantages with regards to the number of memory channels, maximum memory capacity, and number of PCIe lanes, but none of that is likely to have any noticeable impact on gaming. It's very...

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You can watercool that Case, Both AMD and Nvidia are good.
I believe some of those motherboards have watercooling barbs built in.
Keep that CPU and for the PSU get a Corsair RM 1000W... it's silent and Gold rated.
Multi screens require a lot of RAM, so finding one with 4gb or more would be helpful.
With that PSU you could have 2 or even 3 GPU's so running a few screens will be fine.
RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum, it looks great and has very good Overclocking.
 

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Thank you for your quick response! I will look into the PSU you mentioned and everything else as I want to keep this new build as quiet as possible so great feedback.
 

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I think you are kinda coming at this in the wrong order. You are picking components before deciding what they need to do, which is never going to get you a good resolution. For example, picking a PSU is entirely dependant on what you want to include, or else you have no idea what sort of capacity you need. Similarly, which motherboard to pick is dependant on what graphics card setup you need, and which processor. If you are using a 4770K, then all of the Rampage boards are out, as they are socket 2011.


The place to start is your displays imo. You mention 3 24" monitors but no resolution. Assuming you are planning on sticking with 3 1080P displays - 5760*1080 resolution, then this gives you a target you can benchmark and aim for. Also, it's worth considering if you actually want to game across three monitors or not. If you are more likely to game on a single monitor, with the others used for secondary functions, then this will vastly decrease the amount you need to spend on graphics - it's likely a single high end card will suffice.
 

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Thank for you your feedback, those are great suggestions and advice. You know, I swear I checked the sockets on them but I did research a lot of processors and motherboards so that doesn't surprise me I got them mixed up. Well, I might be back to the drawing board in terms of GPU and MOBO. I was doing research and wasn't sure if 2011, 1150 or 1155 sockets would do me better....
 

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It's always better to build to a goal, rather than trying to make the build fit something retroactively. You'll spend a lot less, and you are more likely to avoid pitfalls along the way. Arbitrarily saying "I want to watercool" is fine, but kinda misleading, as it implies full watercooling, rather than closed loop coolers, which are very common, and more or less interchangeable with air coolers.

For CPUs, you are almost undoubtedly better off sticking with the mainstream socket 1150, and the associated Z87 motherboards. The Rampage boards do have some advantages with regards to the number of memory channels, maximum memory capacity, and number of PCIe lanes, but none of that is likely to have any noticeable impact on gaming. It's very task dependant, but if gaming is your focus it's unlikely to be worth looking at X79 boards.

For graphics cards, it's going to depend on what you are trying to accomplish. For 5760*1080 high end gaming, you are probably going to need two high end cards in SLI/Xfire, probably GTX780/GTX780Ti/R9 290/290X depending on how much you want to spend.

Assuming you are running two of those cards, and an otherwise conventional system it is unlikely you would need a PSU of greater capacity than 850W. If you were running a more power hungry processor, or really wanting to push stuff with a custom loop, then stepping up to 1000W wouldn't be entirely ridiculous.
I'd personally avoid the Corsair RMs. There isn't anything terribly wrong with them, but they are too expensive in most places relative to their quality.
 
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The new build won't be just for gaming as stated in the original post but on occasion it will be used for that and I'd like to enjoy it to its fullest extent. Will be used for photoshop/video editing as well for GoPro footage and online streaming, whether it is gaming or something else and a media center for my room (not as much power needed obviously).

I was thinking exactly what you said in terms of sticking with the mainstream 1150 sockets instead of something else, but I read somewhere that they will eventually go away with 1150 or 1155. I can't remember where I saw it though as I have been at this for a while.

If 1150 socket is the one I am looking to go for, the ASUS Rampage VI Extreme has a 1150 socket, so it would work well with the i7-4770k processor.

Rampage VI: http://www.amazon.com/Maximus-VI-EXTREME-Intel-Motherboard/dp/B00CRJUG10/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393969664&sr=1-1&keywords=asus+rampage+vi+extreme

Do you recommend any comparative motherboards to use with the 4770k processor?

I liked the ASUS Rampage line due to the ease of overclocking with their system overlay to change settings easy (not as hard as it used to be).

I was thinking of using SLI as well for dual graphic cards.

This is great knowledge for myself. Thank you very much!
 

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Rampage = socket 2011
Maximus = socket 1155/1150

The board you linked is the "MAXIMUS VI EXTREME" not to be confused with the "RAMPAGE IV EXTREME" (LGA2011).

The ROG motherboards are nice, but ultimately overpriced. The Maximus VI Extreme is tailored towards 4-way SLI/Xfire (near to pointless for most people) and has a lot of extras like Wifi and the OC Panel thing. It's not that they aren't high quality products, but when you can get a motherboard to do the exact same thing for half the price, they don't make a huge amount of sense. The potential exception to this is the Maximus VI Hero, which retains the ROG aesthetic and a lot of the features, but cuts the price down to a more sensible level. The main issue it has is that it's still $50+ more expensive than something perfectly capable like an ASRock Z87 Extreme 4, Asus Z87-PLUS or Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H. Every manufacturer these days has a UEFI BIOS and easy overclocking utilities.
 

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I will look into the other boards as I do not want to buy something that is overpriced. I like bluetooth and wifi capability which I don't think the VI Hero offers. I have always used ASUS and they have never failed me so I suppose that is why I immediately think of them. I have never heard of ASRock but I am sure it is a good brand. I just want great performance for my build for what I need it to do as well as easy extreme overclocking without going into the bios to do it all.
 

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Since I want a SSD for my operating system and start up on programs, would it be worth it to buy two separate SSD, one for the operating systema and one for everything else dealing with programs?

Would I be better off just getting a 128GB SSD and putting everything on there?

I am not sure if it makes a difference.