Well Rounded build 1300

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I need this to be a well rounded machine. I need this to run photo shop, 3d cad program (solid works) and be able to compile code very quickly. A much lower priority is games. I wouldn't mind being able to run games like bio shock medium settings, but this is not nearly as important as the productivity. An ssd may also be nice, but lower priority. Also I want to be able to overclock a little. Amd or intel works. I plan to build in the next few weeks. I need a monitor , but no OS or keyboard.
 
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Looks to me that you've just assembled a part list right there lol

Are you thinking of doing overclock? If so, i7-4770K. If not, i7-4770. Difference in price is about $100 when factoring in motherboard downgrade to H87.

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CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor...

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1027.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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So that seems to be a gaming build I need more of a workstation also you included an os, which i don't need, and no monitor which i do need. but you are under budget so there is that
 

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.96 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: BenQ GL2450HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($199.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1207.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Things get real messy when it comes to production users, specifically the GPU. As you probably know that there are consumer GPU (CG) and workstation GPU (WG). Basically in some pro applications, CG can outperform WG especially when looking at the price difference in between both cards. However, that also means that in some pro application WG wins when comparing with CG. In addition to that, some pro application doesn't even require GPU power to do its job, but relies more on CPU. Therefore, it's really important to know deal directly with the pro application that you usually use. In this case, I believe it's SolidWorks. According to my source (http://www.overclock.net/t/1439649/will-the-gtx-770-work-well-with-3d-modeling), SolidWorks is becoming one of those pro application that doesn't like CG at all (http://www.solidworks.com/sw/support/videocardtesting.html), so in many benchmark such as (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-workstation-graphics-card,3493-9.html) doesn't even include CG. Although I believe you're still able to operate SolidWorks with CG cardsm, but not in a desirable performance (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-770-gk104-review,3519-20.html).

My point is that, you can spend about $600 getting a Quadro 4000 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003X26T70), $700 for Quadro K4000 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133485), or go with CG such as GTX 770 for $330 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127741).

If your main concern is SolidWorks, then most likely you are going to have to dish out more than $1300, especially if you want to do Photoshop with the same build, since it does require some amount of CPU performance (preferably Intel). Or, we will just have the save and limit the budget on other components as much as we can without the guarantee of staying under $1300.

Furthermore that discussion was made without the concern of gaming performance, WG are not really meant for playing games as their driver does not support optimization for any modern games to my knowledge. They will still be able to get the game going and play, but it usually comes with a good amount of random lags and stutters. Similarly, like I've mentioned before, CG does not do well in SolidWorks at all, most of them I believe.

The decision lies upon you.

P.S. It took me forever to type this 'essay' up, so some feedback would be appreciated. In addition, I hope I was right about most of the information that I have just put out there. Correct me if I'm wrong please.
 

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You are right on almost every thing. If I was doing some super heavy rendering or structural modeling in solidworks it may be very useful to get something like a quatro. That said my laptop with that i got three years ago for under 500 dollars can still run solidworks just fine, and I have even been able to do some fluid analysis though it took a very long time to run. The one issue i had is that I have a model from my work that is large enough to max out the 4gig of ram on my lap top and crash it. That is a ram issue not a result of the graphics card or processor. I also believe that solid works benefits from CUDA cores a bit too. The other major consideration I had is programming and compiling code. I am a student majoring in aerospace with a minor in cs. Some things like fpga optimization take absurdly long time to run ,even when running my current laptop at 100 percent load (about an hour to run) and I would love to speed that up also. I have never been much of a gamer so you can scrap that consideration. If it will run kerbal space program i'm fine.
 
Photoshop uses CPU more than GPU.
KSP uses very little resources as long as you have more than 4 GB of RAM.
SolidWorks prefer workstation GPU.

So it sounds to me that you're leaning towards Quadro 4000/K4000, 16 GB of RAM and maybe an i5/i7. Does that look good to you?
 

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I doubt i will need a quadro. solidworks may like a WG card but by no means doe it need one. If i have anything that is that intensive that needs to be done i can go into any cad lab or even my work and do it there, for anything that i would be doing at home i think am very confident that a consumer grade card like a 660 will do me just fine.16GB of ram will probably be good and an i7 or amd equivalent would be ideal.
 


Looks to me that you've just assembled a part list right there lol

Are you thinking of doing overclock? If so, i7-4770K. If not, i7-4770. Difference in price is about $100 when factoring in motherboard downgrade to H87.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Zalman LQ-310 Liquid CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($137.70 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.89 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($328.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VN248H-P 23.8" Monitor ($133.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $1404.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-08 03:42 EST-0500)
 
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