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March 5, 2014 5:40:49 AM

Hello everyone,
I have been reading the sticky's and I will do my best at following them. Also keep in mind I know VERY little about computer hardware and this is all new to me. Learning as I go, and have never built a computer before. Open to all suggestions/advice/tips and I am not locked in to any brand or preferences!

Right now I am looking to build a decent/basic/entry "gaming" computer, but I have a very low budget. I've gotten some help and I think I am off to a great start, but it's exceeding my budget and I don't know enough about this to simply pick and chose to get a good build.

~Approximate Purchase Date: Immediately, ready now but not in a rush
~Budget Range: $700 USD (Yep it's tiny and I know it wont be a super computer. $700 is my absolute highest and would LOVE to go less than that)
~System Usage from Most to Least Important: Normal internet surfing, light Photoshop, some but not intense gaming. (Would like to play DayZ)
~OS - I will need one, and would strongly prefer Windows 7, but with my budget I'm not going to be picky
~No overclocking or anything special, I am no where near that familiar with them, and honestly doubt I need any of it
~Current monitor 1152x864 but I really am not needing super awesome realistic graphics, I just want to run games without lag or hiccups
~I don't need keyboard/mouse/monitor/speakers
~Why am I upgrading? My current computer is 10 year old XP, and it wont last much longer

I'm not looking for ultra high realistic graphics. I just want a reliable computer that can handle light gaming and will last me as long as possible. My budget is $700 and honestly, that raising it from my preferred $550-600. Here's what I've got so far that is not complete and has already exceeded my budget -

CPU - AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
MB - Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
RAM - G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
SSD - Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Video Card - Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card
Sound card - Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card
Power supply - Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Optical drive - Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
~~Current unfinished builds cost - $861.83~~~

I'm sure there are better versions of what I found that you will tell me about (at least I tried haha) but it still needs are case, wireless adapter, OS, and I would assume it needs some fans or vents... Looks like I will need to go with slightly cheaper gear. I'm considering dropping the SSD and keeping my generic HDD to save some money. Is there a step down from the CPU/graphics card and/or possibly PSU? And am I leaving anything out?

I am very open to completely different builds/parts/suggestions if you think it would fit my needs and/or budget better. I am not set in any way to any specific brand or anything. Just want as good as I can get for my low budget!

Thank you for the help and any suggestions or tips are greatly appreciated! Any more info needed just let me know!
March 5, 2014 6:05:55 AM

If you are not going to overclock and you use photoshop, you should get a i5 with a locked multiplier instead with a budget motherboard. The motherboard you picked for the FX-8350 is quite expensive and is used by overclockers.
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March 5, 2014 6:38:25 AM

CPU Cooler - Not needed unless you want to try to overclock down the road.
Sound Card - Not needed. The onboard sound will be fine.
Power Supply - Too large for what you are after. Corsair is great as is Antec, XFX and Seasonic.

How does the build below strike you? Slightly over your $700 budget, but small form factor (ITX), low latency memory, built-in wireless and Bluetooth, SSD and HD...

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H87N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($77.29 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($26.97 @ Newegg)
Total: $750.18

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March 5, 2014 7:14:36 AM

He might as well go with a R7 260x instead which is the better value card and get an i5 instead with a budget motherboard since he is not overclocking.
CPU: i5-3550p http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 180$
Motherboard: ASRock H61MV-ITX LGA: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 60$
Graphics Card:HIS iPower IceQ X² Turbo R7 260X 1GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 143$
Total: 383$
The i3-4130+ the Gigabyte motherboard+ the GTX 750Ti= 390$
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March 5, 2014 7:30:42 AM

Not going to argue the 260x... Just going with what the OP had selected which is a fine card. The i5 and budget board would be a good option as well, but don't forget to add BT and WiFi. Yes, they are relatively inexpensive but do add up and make that cost structure change a bit. IMHO the Gigabyte board simplifies more solutions in one (and you don't have external USB ports consumed). Pair the 3550P with a non-budget board and you have the best of both proposals...
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March 5, 2014 7:49:36 PM

Thank you both AnEwG and sadams04 you have seriously helped me bring down the cost and keep the great build!

I've been moving things around and this is what I currently have, if you see anything wrong or if I am missing something please let me know. It sure looks like a beauty!

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34V1K

Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor
ASRock H61MV-ITX Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Asus Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card
Rosewill RNX-N180UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter
Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case
Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
Microsoft Windows 8.1 (64-bit)
~~Total is $774.14 ~~

I've checked and it seems like the CPU and Motherboard will get along fine.

And that is everything I need right? This may sound stupid but do I need any case fans? Or any connectors or glues or ANYTHING else? I'm just trying to get an exact cost to have it built and running 100%.

Or any other suggestions to lower the price greatly appreciated!

Thanks
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March 6, 2014 3:40:31 AM

Ok so everything is looking really freaking awesome (thanks for the help!) and I have what I think are 2 builds that are perfect for me. I am wondering if the $70 more build is worth just spending the $70 for? The Motherboard just catches my attention and I am having a hard time parting with it... Though the slightly cheaper build is almost as great...

Slightly more expensive, but maybe worth it?
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Stooku/saved/3XVe
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Cheaper and no warnings so everything looks good
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Stooku/saved/3Y6n
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March 6, 2014 4:05:15 AM

I recommend the Intel rig. There is no point in getting an FX chip if you are not rendering or/and overclocking. The i5 will outperform the FX chip in most games. You can get a better motherboard for the i5 as well with the extra cash.
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March 6, 2014 4:48:11 AM

The best motherboard I could find for the Intel is actually pretty great too. Looks like both builds are nearly identical. I'll be able to throw my current SATA HDD into either of them and save the $70 on an ssd, which I am all for. So the Intel will be better for general gaming? Then it seems that is my best option.

I will probably continue messing around with it. haha

Thanks so much AnEwG! Much appreciated!
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