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March 5, 2014 8:32:38 PM

Hey guys just wanted to know what i should do for this situation. Either replace my whole my pc and build a computer for gaming or just buy parts such as a new video card and psu. the model of my Lenovo i think is called K320 57125303. It has a I7 870 cpu, radeon 5570 video card, 280 watts (I think not sure), and 8g ram. For gaming, so far i play just FFXIV, WoW and Hearthstone, but i do want to play the new games coming out such as dibalo 3 reapers, south park sot, dark souls 2, Titanfall, and few others. I would like to have the quality of a pc that can run BF4 to high settings at least so i can at least have some future proof on it. I am not saying i want to play games like Crysis 3 and stuff that requires top notch stuff but i do want to perform well when playing games like those so yeah. Also to note my budget for gaming is like $1000 but i really do not want to go in that direction unless i must and for gpu price for upgrading would be the best price performance i guess. Thanks !!
a b 4 Gaming
March 5, 2014 8:46:02 PM

your cpu is a beast your mobo supports ddr3 mem at descent speeds i would go with this and sell your 5570

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34WT0
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34WT0/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34WT0/benchmarks/

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($709.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $779.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-05 23:42 EST-0500)

this leaves you wiggle room to get an ssd to speed up overall system performance(i reccommend these 2)
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-driv...
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-driv...

and a copy of windows 7 if you dont already have it

here are some benchmarcks of the 780 ti just make sure it will fit in your case
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_780_Ti_Dire...
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a b 4 Gaming
March 5, 2014 8:52:45 PM

Your CPU is fine, i'm running BF4 off of a i5 750. Your gpu is crap though.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34X9n
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34X9n/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34X9n/benchmarks/

Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($122.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($489.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $687.96

The SSD is a great way to speed up your computer.

A 780ti is a waste of money, you pay over $200 more for not much more power, the 780 is a much better value.

Then a nice supporting PSU.
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a b 4 Gaming
March 5, 2014 9:00:29 PM

woltej1 said:
Your CPU is fine, i'm running BF4 off of a i5 750. Your gpu is crap though.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34X9n
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34X9n/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34X9n/benchmarks/

Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($122.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($489.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $687.96

The SSD is a great way to speed up your computer.

A 780ti is a waste of money, you pay over $200 more for not much more power, the 780 is a much better value.

Then a nice supporting PSU.


780ti gets 25% more fps in any game and it is the single fastest card on the planet
bf4 fps ultra with 4xaa
780ti 81 fps
780 63 fps
that is pretty significant increase
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March 5, 2014 9:05:28 PM

Bad_Kitty13 said:
woltej1 said:
Your CPU is fine, i'm running BF4 off of a i5 750. Your gpu is crap though.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34X9n
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34X9n/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34X9n/benchmarks/

Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($122.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($489.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $687.96

The SSD is a great way to speed up your computer.

A 780ti is a waste of money, you pay over $200 more for not much more power, the 780 is a much better value.

Then a nice supporting PSU.


780ti gets 25% more fps in any game and it is the single fastest card on the planet
bf4 fps ultra with 4xaa
780ti 81 fps
780 63 fps
that is pretty significant increase


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-780-ti-...

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/07/nv...

Were you just making crap up or what lol
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March 5, 2014 9:11:44 PM

thanks for the answers guys but i think 780ti would be a big overkill since i am not going to go really in with buying games that need top notch graphics so i am looking for the best price performance atm. It is good to know that my cpu and motherboard is fine, so anyways replacing the psu and video card will def solve my problem? maybe a gtx 770 but the thing is would this even fit my case??
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a b 4 Gaming
March 5, 2014 9:15:07 PM

Taken altogether then, GTX 780 Ti stands to be anywhere between 1% and 27% faster than GTX 780 depending on whether we’re looking at a ROP-bound or shader-bound scenario. Otherwise it stands to be between 5% and 17% faster than GTX Titan depending on whether we’re ROP-bound or memory bandwidth-bound.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7492/the-geforce-gtx-780-...
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a b 4 Gaming
March 5, 2014 9:16:20 PM

Blackheart89 said:
thanks for the answers guys but i think 780ti would be a big overkill since i am not going to go really in with buying games that need top notch graphics so i am looking for the best price performance atm. It is good to know that my cpu and motherboard is fine, so anyways replacing the psu and video card will def solve my problem? maybe a gtx 770 but the thing is would this even fit my case??


do you have any idea on the clearance from your back to your hdd rack the 770 is 10.5 inches
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March 5, 2014 9:18:33 PM

nope im a noobie which is why im asking for suggestions in the forums
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a b 4 Gaming
March 5, 2014 9:21:41 PM

1) You can't compare an aftermarket OC 780ti to a reference 780.
2) The vast majority of the time you are looking at 10-15% more power, all for $200 more. Definitely not worth it.
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a b 4 Gaming
March 5, 2014 9:25:07 PM

Blackheart89 said:
nope im a noobie which is why im asking for suggestions in the forums


since its a factory machine i wont be able to find specs those specs on its website you can take a tape measure and open the side panel and measure from the very back where the expansion slots are to the hard drive racks
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a b 4 Gaming
March 5, 2014 9:25:34 PM

woltej1 said:
1) You can't compare an aftermarket OC 780ti to a reference 780.
2) The vast majority of the time you are looking at 10-15% more power, all for $200 more. Definitely not worth it.


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March 5, 2014 9:43:38 PM

Ok yeah i most likely would have to get a new case but can i really just put my motherboard hdd and everything into the case would not have install anything new??
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a b 4 Gaming
March 5, 2014 9:50:59 PM

Blackheart89 said:
Ok yeah i most likely would have to get a new case but can i really just put my motherboard hdd and everything into the case would not have install anything new??


should be fine just most cases have usb 3.0 now so you couldnt use those but other than that youd be good or you can sell that one and i can get you a build like this and start fresh

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34XUQ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34XUQ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34XUQ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($92.99 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1062.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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you can take off the keyboard and mouse combo to save 30 dollars and your current cpu is going for 230 new if that gives you any reference
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March 5, 2014 9:56:34 PM

if i don't replace the hdd i don't need another os correct? and i think my current ram cpu and motherboard can hold a gtx 770 well can it? other than that the stuff you posted looks good
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a b 4 Gaming
March 5, 2014 10:10:06 PM

yea it can fine i was giving you an option and if you have vista or xp i would upgrade for game compatibility or if you was planning on selling that pc as windows can only be on 1 system at a time.

this is withe case,770,ssd,psu,odd (no os)


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34Z0x
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34Z0x/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34Z0x/benchmarks/

Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case ($41.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $513.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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this case is better suited for your mobo because it is usb 2.0
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March 5, 2014 10:22:08 PM

everything looks good just one more thing i was thinking of buying a cheaper graphics maybe a gtx750ti not sure if thats a really good price performance and then later upgrade when really needed since so far i am not looking to buy really demanding games.
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a b 4 Gaming
March 5, 2014 10:32:29 PM

750ti is good for price/performane/power consumption

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7764/the-nvidia-geforce-g...

if it can play bf4 on high and get 48 fps it can probable play anything else at higher fps

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34ZuW
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34ZuW/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34ZuW/benchmarks/

Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case ($41.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($67.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $351.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-06 01:31 EST-0500)

you could go with a smaller psu unless you want to keep it for upgrade to 770 later on
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