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In performance of games, which is more important
A good RAM or A good Graphic Card
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  1. Both are very important, you need RAM to run high memory games, but you also want a killer graphics card to power the visuals in said games. What kind of ram and graphics card are you looking at? What's your budget?
  2. spider40 said:
    In performance of games, which is more important
    A good RAM or A good Graphic Card
    Please answer


    Both are important, but GPU moreso than ram. plenty of ram is needed so your system doesn't transfer data to the swap file on the HD (which is slow), the GPU enables high settings (res/ingame settings/graphical goodness.)

    The recommended ram for a modern system playing games like BF4 is 8gb. If you have that, then your good to go. Faster ram will have an impact, but not as much as you might think. As Krishna has said, a good GPU is important. More important than the ram, specially for gaming. A good CPU is needed to power your GPU though.

    The thing is, it's really about balance. Having enough ram (at whatever speed, providing it matches your CPU defaults), a good CPU (preferably a quad core) and a good GPU too. If You have all 3 of those and you have a pretty good system, which should be able to play games very well.
  3. Krishna1337x said:
    Both are very important, you need RAM to run high memory games, but you also want a killer graphics card to power the visuals in said games. What kind of ram and graphics card are you looking at? What's your budget?


    I want to purchase Sapphire AMD/ATI Radeon R9 270X with Boost OC 4 GB DDR5 Graphics Card and informed my friend who is a type of expert in these things

    MY PC SPECS
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz
    Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
    NVIDIA GeForce 210
    Gaming graphics 2234 MB Total available graphics memory

    Is 4gb ram enough to play all latest games?
  4. keith12 said:
    spider40 said:
    In performance of games, which is more important
    A good RAM or A good Graphic Card
    Please answer


    Both are important, but GPU moreso than ram. plenty of ram is needed so your system doesn't transfer data to the swap file on the HD (which is slow), the GPU enables high settings (res/ingame settings/graphical goodness.)

    The recommended ram for a modern system playing games like BF4 is 8gb. If you have that, then your good to go. Faster ram will have an impact, but not as much as you might think. As Krishna has said, a good GPU is important. More important than the ram, specially for gaming. A good CPU is needed to power your GPU though.

    The thing is, it's really about balance. Having enough ram (at whatever speed, providing it matches your CPU defaults), a good CPU (preferably a quad core) and a good GPU too. If You have all 3 of those and you have a pretty good system, which should be able to play games very well.


    I want to purchase Sapphire AMD/ATI Radeon R9 270X with Boost OC 4 GB DDR5 Graphics Card and informed my friend who is a type of expert in these things

    MY PC SPECS
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz
    Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
    NVIDIA GeForce 210
    Gaming graphics 2234 MB Total available graphics memory

    Is 4gb ram enough to play all latest games?
  5. spider40 said:
    Krishna1337x said:
    Both are very important, you need RAM to run high memory games, but you also want a killer graphics card to power the visuals in said games. What kind of ram and graphics card are you looking at? What's your budget?


    I want to purchase Sapphire AMD/ATI Radeon R9 270X with Boost OC 4 GB DDR5 Graphics Card and informed my friend who is a type of expert in these things

    MY PC SPECS
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz
    Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
    NVIDIA GeForce 210
    Gaming graphics 2234 MB Total available graphics memory

    Is 4gb ram enough to play all latest games?


    A GeForce 210 is definitely NOT a gaming GPU, and you will probably want at least an i5 quad core CPU, 4gb of ram will be okay, but obviously not top notch, 8GB is the standard/minimum for a gaming build.

    For your GPU, you'll want at least a 660 (770 is WAAAY better but pricey as frick)
    http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-SUPERCLOCKED-Graphics-02G-P4-2662-KR/dp/B00966IREK/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1394132304&sr=1-5&keywords=gtx+670
    But the R9 270X will work just fine XD

    This CPU will take you to a higher gaming standard (once you go 60-70FPS you can't go back mate)
    http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-4670K-Quad-Core-Desktop-Processor/dp/B00CO8TBOW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1394132464&sr=1-1&keywords=i5+haswell

    When it comes to ram, clock speed matters. Try to aim for somewhere in the 2000s MHz
  6. Do you mean gaming like hardcore with killer graphics or more like medium level such as TF2 and borderlands on low specs?
  7. @spider40
    sorry didn't read that keith12 pretty much just said that. my bad lol
  8. Krishna1337x said:
    spider40 said:
    Krishna1337x said:
    Both are very important, you need RAM to run high memory games, but you also want a killer graphics card to power the visuals in said games. What kind of ram and graphics card are you looking at? What's your budget?


    I want to purchase Sapphire AMD/ATI Radeon R9 270X with Boost OC 4 GB DDR5 Graphics Card and informed my friend who is a type of expert in these things

    MY PC SPECS
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz
    Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
    NVIDIA GeForce 210
    Gaming graphics 2234 MB Total available graphics memory

    Is 4gb ram enough to play all latest games?


    A GeForce 210 is definitely NOT a gaming GPU, and you will probably want at least an i5 quad core CPU, 4gb of ram will be okay, but obviously not top notch, 8GB is the standard/minimum for a gaming build.

    For your GPU, you'll want at least a 660 (770 is WAAAY better but pricey as frick)
    http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-SUPERCLOCKED-Graphics-02G-P4-2662-KR/dp/B00966IREK/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1394132304&sr=1-5&keywords=gtx+670
    But the R9 270X will work just fine XD

    This CPU will take you to a higher gaming standard (once you go 60-70FPS you can't go back mate)
    http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-4670K-Quad-Core-Desktop-Processor/dp/B00CO8TBOW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1394132464&sr=1-1&keywords=i5+haswell

    When it comes to ram, clock speed matters. Try to aim for somewhere in the 2000s MHz


    I am not interested in buying another CPU or RAM and i am not a pro gamer. I just want the game to run smooth in the default resolutions like 1280*800 like that. So recommend me a graphics card under RS10000
  9. The R9 270X would be wayyy overkill for the rest of your build, and would be bottlenecked by
    a) The RAM,
    b) the proccy
    and
    c) your power-supply

    Seeing your current config I can guess that you didnt invest a lot in your Cabbie+ PSU, and probably went for a generic one. The computer needs a complete overhaul ,and a basic addition of a gpu will lead to problems later.
  10. KR8NUX said:
    The R9 270X would be wayyy overkill for the rest of your build, and would be bottlenecked by
    a) The RAM,
    b) the proccy
    and
    c) your power-supply

    Seeing your current config I can guess that you didnt invest a lot in your Cabbie+ PSU, and probably went for a generic one. The computer needs a complete overhaul ,and a basic addition of a gpu will lead to problems later.


    But bro i am also going to change the cabinet and the psu too. So please advise me a graphic card according to my pc specs

    thanks
  11. spider40 said:
    KR8NUX said:
    The R9 270X would be wayyy overkill for the rest of your build, and would be bottlenecked by
    a) The RAM,
    b) the proccy
    and
    c) your power-supply

    Seeing your current config I can guess that you didnt invest a lot in your Cabbie+ PSU, and probably went for a generic one. The computer needs a complete overhaul ,and a basic addition of a gpu will lead to problems later.


    But bro i am also going to change the cabinet and the psu too. So please advise me a graphic card according to my pc specs

    thanks



    If you are opting for a PSU+Cabinet overhaul, then you can go for a GPU upgrade, followed by another 4 gb of ram down the line. But looking back again, you quote the R9 270x, coupled to a 10k INR budget. This card costs way more than that. Are you getting it off your friend ? Because if you are aiming for a budget of 10k, the GTX 560ti would suit you better. Plus, if u happen to purchase the 270x anyway, you will never be able to use it to its full potential as the CPU + 4GB ram will bottleneck its potential.

    Simply Put, dont buy the 270x, as your current processor, the i3, will not let this GPU perform to its maximum.
  12. [I am not interested in buying another CPU or RAM and i am not a pro gamer. I just want the game to run smooth in the default resolutions like 1280*800 like that. So recommend me a graphics card under RS10000

    I'd recommend this for the GPU:

    http://www.flipkart.com/zotac-nvidia-gtx-650-ti-1gb-1-gb-gddr5-graphics-card/p/itmdez49ptzu4g7e?pid=GRCDEZ49PTZU4G7E&srno=b_89&ref=40f3c330-a645-4e6d-9076-3be476966a73

    and spend the savings out of the 10000r on this ram to get an extra 4gb in. It will help a lot:

    http://www.flipkart.com/kingston-valueram-ddr3-4-gb-pc-ram-kvr13n9s8-4-sp/p/itmdnymmahgjegdz?pid=RAMD4HGZCZ6B5D67&otracker=from-search&srno=t_6&query=ddr3+4gb&ref=a0c563d7-0089-4f37-a242-c903e1e22346

    the two combined will give you much better performance. Saying that, don't be expecting amazing results, as another poster has said your CPU isn't the best (by no means weak)
  13. KR8NUX said:
    spider40 said:
    KR8NUX said:
    The R9 270X would be wayyy overkill for the rest of your build, and would be bottlenecked by
    a) The RAM,
    b) the proccy
    and
    c) your power-supply

    Seeing your current config I can guess that you didnt invest a lot in your Cabbie+ PSU, and probably went for a generic one. The computer needs a complete overhaul ,and a basic addition of a gpu will lead to problems later.


    But bro i am also going to change the cabinet and the psu too. So please advise me a graphic card according to my pc specs

    thanks



    If you are opting for a PSU+Cabinet overhaul, then you can go for a GPU upgrade, followed by another 4 gb of ram down the line. But looking back again, you quote the R9 270x, coupled to a 10k INR budget. This card costs way more than that. Are you getting it off your friend ? Because if you are aiming for a budget of 10k, the GTX 560ti would suit you better. Plus, if u happen to purchase the 270x anyway, you will never be able to use it to its full potential as the CPU + 4GB ram will bottleneck its potential.

    Simply Put, dont buy the 270x, as your current processor, the i3, will not let this GPU perform to its maximum.


    No i am not getting it from my friend but when i asked my dad, he told that our total budget is Rs20000 for these things including graphics card

    Sapphire AMD/ATI Radeon R7 240 with Boost 1 GB DDR5 Graphics Card- RS5775
    DigiFlip GP006 Wireless Gamepad X 2- RS750 X 2- RS1500
    HP Deskjet Ink Advantage 2545 All-in-One Wireless Printer- RS5600

    Total- Rs12875
    Please advise me a gaming cabinet as well as a good PSU of 400w in Rs8000
    thank you
  14. keith12 said:
    [I am not interested in buying another CPU or RAM and i am not a pro gamer. I just want the game to run smooth in the default resolutions like 1280*800 like that. So recommend me a graphics card under RS10000

    I'd recommend this for the GPU:

    http://www.flipkart.com/zotac-nvidia-gtx-650-ti-1gb-1-gb-gddr5-graphics-card/p/itmdez49ptzu4g7e?pid=GRCDEZ49PTZU4G7E&srno=b_89&ref=40f3c330-a645-4e6d-9076-3be476966a73

    and spend the savings out of the 10000r on this ram to get an extra 4gb in. It will help a lot:

    http://www.flipkart.com/kingston-valueram-ddr3-4-gb-pc-ram-kvr13n9s8-4-sp/p/itmdnymmahgjegdz?pid=RAMD4HGZCZ6B5D67&otracker=from-search&srno=t_6&query=ddr3+4gb&ref=a0c563d7-0089-4f37-a242-c903e1e22346

    the two combined will give you much better performance. Saying that, don't be expecting amazing results, as another poster has said your CPU isn't the best (by no means weak)


    How is this card Sapphire AMD/ATI Radeon R7 240 with Boost 1 GB DDR5 Graphics Card?
    Because expect the graphics card and cabinet, my dad has said to buy the printer.
    And this is a budget beast ( not sure )
    Please Answer
  15. The R7 240 is grossly underpowered. You wont practically even feel that you have upgraded your PC. I dont see why you need a wireless gamepad, I'd suggest getting a wired one for now. Talking of PSU + cabinet, i'd suggest getting a coolermaster 310/311/315 cabinet, coupled with a corsair CX600/VS 650/G600, and the NVIDIA 650ti/750, or Radeon HD 7770/7790 as your GPU, and add 4 GB of RAM.

    Your cabinet would cost you around 2200, the RAM around 2600, PSU for 4000, GPU around 9500(if expensive) or 8500 (if 7770/7790) you could postpone the RAM for now, thereby enabling you to get the printer. 4 GB is more than enough, seeing that you game at 1280 x 800 and not FHD(1920x1080). You could also reduce the PSU to VS 550 saving another 1000 bucks, to better adjust your budget. BUT DO NOT BUY A R7 240, pretty pointless.
  16. KR8NUX said:
    The R7 240 is grossly underpowered. You wont practically even feel that you have upgraded your PC. I dont see why you need a wireless gamepad, I'd suggest getting a wired one for now. Talking of PSU + cabinet, i'd suggest getting a coolermaster 310/311/315 cabinet, coupled with a corsair CX600/VS 650/G600, and the NVIDIA 650ti/750, or Radeon HD 7770/7790 as your GPU, and add 4 GB of RAM.

    Your cabinet would cost you around 2200, the RAM around 2600, PSU for 4000, GPU around 9500(if expensive) or 8500 (if 7770/7790) you could postpone the RAM for now, thereby enabling you to get the printer. 4 GB is more than enough, seeing that you game at 1280 x 800 and not FHD(1920x1080). You could also reduce the PSU to VS 550 saving another 1000 bucks, to better adjust your budget. BUT DO NOT BUY A R7 240, pretty pointless.


    I am planning to buy MSI NVIDIA N650-2GD5/OC 2 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card from flipkart.
    My dad has said that for printer, we are ready to spend more money as the printer is useful for him too. So please give me a link for
    1 a PSU
    2 a Cabinet
    3 2 wired gamepads
    please please please please please
  17. spider40 said:
    KR8NUX said:
    The R7 240 is grossly underpowered. You wont practically even feel that you have upgraded your PC. I dont see why you need a wireless gamepad, I'd suggest getting a wired one for now. Talking of PSU + cabinet, i'd suggest getting a coolermaster 310/311/315 cabinet, coupled with a corsair CX600/VS 650/G600, and the NVIDIA 650ti/750, or Radeon HD 7770/7790 as your GPU, and add 4 GB of RAM.

    Your cabinet would cost you around 2200, the RAM around 2600, PSU for 4000, GPU around 9500(if expensive) or 8500 (if 7770/7790) you could postpone the RAM for now, thereby enabling you to get the printer. 4 GB is more than enough, seeing that you game at 1280 x 800 and not FHD(1920x1080). You could also reduce the PSU to VS 550 saving another 1000 bucks, to better adjust your budget. BUT DO NOT BUY A R7 240, pretty pointless.


    I am planning to buy MSI NVIDIA N650-2GD5/OC 2 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card from flipkart.
    My dad has said that for printer, we are ready to spend more money as the printer is useful for him too. So please give me a link for
    1 a PSU
    2 a Cabinet
    3 2 wired gamepads
    please please please please please


    Which city do you live in ? If its Kolkata/Delhi/ Mumbai you are better off going to Chandni Chowk/Nehru Place/Lamington Road.

    I would give you flipkart links, but mind you that flipkart, now being a major e-shopping brand in India, overcharges for a lot of things, especially the PSU/Cabbie( i dont think they are even available there). You could try infibeam or snapdeal, but they have really poor delivery times. Will return with some links later.
  18. KR8NUX said:
    spider40 said:
    KR8NUX said:
    The R7 240 is grossly underpowered. You wont practically even feel that you have upgraded your PC. I dont see why you need a wireless gamepad, I'd suggest getting a wired one for now. Talking of PSU + cabinet, i'd suggest getting a coolermaster 310/311/315 cabinet, coupled with a corsair CX600/VS 650/G600, and the NVIDIA 650ti/750, or Radeon HD 7770/7790 as your GPU, and add 4 GB of RAM.

    Your cabinet would cost you around 2200, the RAM around 2600, PSU for 4000, GPU around 9500(if expensive) or 8500 (if 7770/7790) you could postpone the RAM for now, thereby enabling you to get the printer. 4 GB is more than enough, seeing that you game at 1280 x 800 and not FHD(1920x1080). You could also reduce the PSU to VS 550 saving another 1000 bucks, to better adjust your budget. BUT DO NOT BUY A R7 240, pretty pointless.


    I am planning to buy MSI NVIDIA N650-2GD5/OC 2 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card from flipkart.
    My dad has said that for printer, we are ready to spend more money as the printer is useful for him too. So please give me a link for
    1 a PSU
    2 a Cabinet
    3 2 wired gamepads
    please please please please please


    Which city do you live in ? If its Kolkata/Delhi/ Mumbai you are better off going to Chandni Chowk/Nehru Place/Lamington Road.

    I would give you flipkart links, but mind you that flipkart, now being a major e-shopping brand in India, overcharges for a lot of things, especially the PSU/Cabbie( i dont think they are even available there). You could try infibeam or snapdeal, but they have really poor delivery times. Will return with some links later.


    Yes, you are right. Actually i just want the links of these things because the guy which assembled my computer will buy them from chandni chowk like places and then will assemble em. So please give me links from flipkart or ebay.in
    Thank you
  19. KR8NUX said:


    But this is a good card man MSI NVIDIA N650-2GD5/OC 2 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card it is 2GB GDDR5 under Rs10000 and it is very good
  20. The 7770 is far far better man, the 650 doesnt hold a candle to it. Do you really want me to put an effort and post all the comparisons ?

    http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1655340/7770-650.html

    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/370574-33-7770

    http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7770-vs-GeForce-GTX-650

    If your friend is instructing you otherwise, please tell him to join our forum here and discuss about it.
  21. TO learn more about graphics cards, read this great writeup by filippo
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-myths,3694.html

    You'll realise that "2GB GDDR5"is seriously a pointless thing to quote.
  22. KR8NUX said:
    The 7770 is far far better man, the 650 doesnt hold a candle to it. Do you really want me to put an effort and post all the comparisons ?

    http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1655340/7770-650.html

    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/370574-33-7770

    http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7770-vs-GeForce-GTX-650

    If your friend is instructing you otherwise, please tell him to join our forum here and discuss about it.


    So you mean that it is wise to buy hd7770 and not gtx650?
  23. Best answer
    spider40 said:
    KR8NUX said:
    The 7770 is far far better man, the 650 doesnt hold a candle to it. Do you really want me to put an effort and post all the comparisons ?

    http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1655340/7770-650.html

    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/370574-33-7770

    http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7770-vs-GeForce-GTX-650

    If your friend is instructing you otherwise, please tell him to join our forum here and discuss about it.


    So you mean that it is wise to buy hd7770 and not gtx650?


    Yup, the 7770 is a purchase you wont regret, as it will keep you gaming atleast at medium/high(if not ultra) for most current gen games.
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