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March 6, 2014 9:31:53 AM

I am going to start building a desktop soon, and the PSU I chose is the Xion High Performance 1000 Watt ATX Power Supply. I have two main concerns:
1. I haven't heard of this brand before, how good/bad is the quality of this power supply?
2. The fan appears to blow out of the top of the power supply, will the hot air from the power supply going on to my motherboard be a concern?
I mainly chose this power supply as it is about half the price of the Corsair or other big name equivalent(at least that I could find). Let me know what you guys think about it.

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March 6, 2014 9:40:44 AM

Junk. Avoid. Not recommended.

http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

There's a reason it's half price because it's junk. Just like with anything else, you get what you pay for. A PSU is not something you want to cheap out on. Invest in a quality PSU. Corsair TX or above, Seasonic, Antec, or XFX.
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March 6, 2014 9:42:26 AM

The fan sucks air in, so it would either suck air from inside the case and send it out, or suck air from outside the case (if you have it mounted on bottom).

Why do you need a 1000w power supply anyway?
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March 6, 2014 10:32:18 AM

Cheaping out on PSU is a rookie mistake. Dont do it.
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March 6, 2014 10:43:45 AM

Ok, so sounds like getting that one would be a bad idea. This is my first build so I am kind of a rookie :) 
The reason I'm getting 1000W is just in case I need more power really. I don't anticipate needing that much power, but I don't want to have to worry about whether or not my PSU is powerful enough. The other parts I'm getting are i5-3570k, EVGA gtx 760 superclocked, 2x4gigs of corsair ram, a 1tb western digital hard drive and an optical drive, all on an ASRock z77 extreme 4. The motherboard can supposedly support 4-way SLI, I won't get that yet but that's why I am getting the 1000W in case I decide to SLI in the future.
Thanks for the link to the recommended power supplies, I'll look those over and choose one of them instead of the Xion.
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March 6, 2014 11:24:20 AM

Hmb556 said:
Ok, so sounds like getting that one would be a bad idea. This is my first build so I am kind of a rookie :) 
The reason I'm getting 1000W is just in case I need more power really. I don't anticipate needing that much power, but I don't want to have to worry about whether or not my PSU is powerful enough. The other parts I'm getting are i5-3570k, EVGA gtx 760 superclocked, 2x4gigs of corsair ram, a 1tb western digital hard drive and an optical drive, all on an ASRock z77 extreme 4. The motherboard can supposedly support 4-way SLI, I won't get that yet but that's why I am getting the 1000W in case I decide to SLI in the future.
Thanks for the link to the recommended power supplies, I'll look those over and choose one of them instead of the Xion.


It's physically impossible to support 4-way SLI on that motherboard since it only has two PCI Express x16 slots. 2-way SLI is the maximum. It can support 2-way Quad SLI using two dual GPU cards (e.g. ASUS MARS GTX 760 [MARS-GTX760-DC2OC-4GD5], GeForce GTX 690).
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March 6, 2014 11:34:05 AM

Even for sli, unless your going to run custom water cooling, anything more than 850 watts is overkill.

I recommend Seasonic X series or Corsair AX series. Don't go cheap on your psu. A bad and cheap pay can fry your system.
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March 6, 2014 11:35:58 AM

Xion is an awful brand. You will be safe with any of Antec, Corsair, PCP&C, Seasonic, or XFX.
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March 6, 2014 12:47:47 PM

ko888 said:
Hmb556 said:
Ok, so sounds like getting that one would be a bad idea. This is my first build so I am kind of a rookie :) 
The reason I'm getting 1000W is just in case I need more power really. I don't anticipate needing that much power, but I don't want to have to worry about whether or not my PSU is powerful enough. The other parts I'm getting are i5-3570k, EVGA gtx 760 superclocked, 2x4gigs of corsair ram, a 1tb western digital hard drive and an optical drive, all on an ASRock z77 extreme 4. The motherboard can supposedly support 4-way SLI, I won't get that yet but that's why I am getting the 1000W in case I decide to SLI in the future.
Thanks for the link to the recommended power supplies, I'll look those over and choose one of them instead of the Xion.


It's physically impossible to support 4-way SLI on that motherboard since it only has two PCI Express x16 slots. 2-way SLI is the maximum. It can support 2-way Quad SLI using two dual GPU cards (e.g. ASUS MARS GTX 760 [MARS-GTX760-DC2OC-4GD5], GeForce GTX 690).

Oh ok, I thought Quad SLI meant 4 actual graphics cards, my bad. Still going for that mobo though

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March 6, 2014 12:51:18 PM

thunderdan602 said:
Even for sli, unless your going to run custom water cooling, anything more than 850 watts is overkill.

I recommend Seasonic X series or Corsair AX series. Don't go cheap on your psu. A bad and cheap pay can fry your system.


Since most of the good 1000W power supplies were much more than my original choice I went down to an 850W Corsair Enthusiast:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17-139-...
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March 6, 2014 1:14:28 PM

I would rather go Corsair RM750 instead of TX850. It's quieter and is 80+ gold instead of bronze meaning less heat and less power costs. And its $5 cheaper lol
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March 6, 2014 1:51:56 PM

Sp00kie said:
I would rather go Corsair RM750 instead of TX850. It's quieter and is 80+ gold instead of bronze meaning less heat and less power costs. And its $5 cheaper lol


Actually, the Corsair RM750 is rated Tier 3 (the same as the budget CX series)..... which I would avoid buying. The TX850 is far better.
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
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March 7, 2014 5:33:19 AM

aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
I would rather go Corsair RM750 instead of TX850. It's quieter and is 80+ gold instead of bronze meaning less heat and less power costs. And its $5 cheaper lol


Actually, the Corsair RM750 is rated Tier 3 (the same as the budget CX series)..... which I would avoid buying. The TX850 is far better.
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx


That's because the first units RM750 and RM850 that were produced and reviewed had some heat issues during testing. Those issues were addressed by Corsair and if you look at that website the RM550 which was reviewed and tested after the changes were made to production is Tier 1. I have two of the newer ones (an RM750 and an RM850 and am very satisfied) and I suspect that if they were reviewed again they would go to tier 1 as well.
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March 7, 2014 6:58:54 AM

Sp00kie said:
aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
I would rather go Corsair RM750 instead of TX850. It's quieter and is 80+ gold instead of bronze meaning less heat and less power costs. And its $5 cheaper lol


Actually, the Corsair RM750 is rated Tier 3 (the same as the budget CX series)..... which I would avoid buying. The TX850 is far better.
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx


That's because the first units RM750 and RM850 that were produced and reviewed had some heat issues during testing. Those issues were addressed by Corsair and if you look at that website the RM550 which was reviewed and tested after the changes were made to production is Tier 1. I have two of the newer ones (an RM750 and an RM850 and am very satisfied) and I suspect that if they were reviewed again they would go to tier 1 as well.


According to several reviews in late 2013. The RM750 still uses no brand name secondary capacitors. So it's still rated Tier 3 for a reason. I highly doubt there is a newer version of the RM750 in that short-time period.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/11/13/corsair_rm750...
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1849/pg3/corsair-...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM750/4.html

So unless JonnyGuru or some reliable source recommends the RM750; I'll still rate it Tier 3.

Also, there is no way the RM550 is Tier 1. It is not better than the HX (Tier 2) and definitely can't compete with the AX (Tier 1).
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March 7, 2014 7:39:46 AM

aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
I would rather go Corsair RM750 instead of TX850. It's quieter and is 80+ gold instead of bronze meaning less heat and less power costs. And its $5 cheaper lol


Actually, the Corsair RM750 is rated Tier 3 (the same as the budget CX series)..... which I would avoid buying. The TX850 is far better.
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx


That's because the first units RM750 and RM850 that were produced and reviewed had some heat issues during testing. Those issues were addressed by Corsair and if you look at that website the RM550 which was reviewed and tested after the changes were made to production is Tier 1. I have two of the newer ones (an RM750 and an RM850 and am very satisfied) and I suspect that if they were reviewed again they would go to tier 1 as well.


According to several reviews in late 2013. The RM750 still uses no brand name secondary capacitors. So it's still rated Tier 3 for a reason. I highly doubt there is a newer version of the RM750 in that short-time period.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/11/13/corsair_rm750...
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1849/pg3/corsair-...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM750/4.html

So unless JonnyGuru or some reliable source recommends the RM750; I'll still rate it Tier 3.

Also, there is no way the RM550 is Tier 1. It is not better than the HX (Tier 2) and definitely can't compete with the AX (Tier 1).


I think you should scroll down that hardocp link you included and read it.
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March 7, 2014 8:08:12 AM

Sp00kie said:
aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
I would rather go Corsair RM750 instead of TX850. It's quieter and is 80+ gold instead of bronze meaning less heat and less power costs. And its $5 cheaper lol


Actually, the Corsair RM750 is rated Tier 3 (the same as the budget CX series)..... which I would avoid buying. The TX850 is far better.
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx


That's because the first units RM750 and RM850 that were produced and reviewed had some heat issues during testing. Those issues were addressed by Corsair and if you look at that website the RM550 which was reviewed and tested after the changes were made to production is Tier 1. I have two of the newer ones (an RM750 and an RM850 and am very satisfied) and I suspect that if they were reviewed again they would go to tier 1 as well.


According to several reviews in late 2013. The RM750 still uses no brand name secondary capacitors. So it's still rated Tier 3 for a reason. I highly doubt there is a newer version of the RM750 in that short-time period.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/11/13/corsair_rm750...
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1849/pg3/corsair-...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM750/4.html

So unless JonnyGuru or some reliable source recommends the RM750; I'll still rate it Tier 3.

Also, there is no way the RM550 is Tier 1. It is not better than the HX (Tier 2) and definitely can't compete with the AX (Tier 1).


I think you should scroll down that hardocp link you included and read it.


I did read it. It says nothing about changing the secondary capacitors which is one of the main reasons it is rated Tier 3... it could be Tier 2 now with fan fixes, but definitely not Tier 1.
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March 7, 2014 8:22:16 AM

aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
I would rather go Corsair RM750 instead of TX850. It's quieter and is 80+ gold instead of bronze meaning less heat and less power costs. And its $5 cheaper lol


Actually, the Corsair RM750 is rated Tier 3 (the same as the budget CX series)..... which I would avoid buying. The TX850 is far better.
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx


That's because the first units RM750 and RM850 that were produced and reviewed had some heat issues during testing. Those issues were addressed by Corsair and if you look at that website the RM550 which was reviewed and tested after the changes were made to production is Tier 1. I have two of the newer ones (an RM750 and an RM850 and am very satisfied) and I suspect that if they were reviewed again they would go to tier 1 as well.


According to several reviews in late 2013. The RM750 still uses no brand name secondary capacitors. So it's still rated Tier 3 for a reason. I highly doubt there is a newer version of the RM750 in that short-time period.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/11/13/corsair_rm750...
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1849/pg3/corsair-...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM750/4.html

So unless JonnyGuru or some reliable source recommends the RM750; I'll still rate it Tier 3.

Also, there is no way the RM550 is Tier 1. It is not better than the HX (Tier 2) and definitely can't compete with the AX (Tier 1).


I think you should scroll down that hardocp link you included and read it.


I did read it. It says nothing about changing the secondary capacitors which is why one of the main reason it is rated Tier 3... it could be Tier 2 now, but definitely not Tier 1.


wait...first you said you highly doubt there is a newer version. Now you say you knew there is a newer version but you don't like the brand of the secondary caps they use. hmmm. whatever.

For people that are interested in the actual performance of the current RM series, skip to about 40 minutes in of this video. OMG can this guy waffle on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCmLAtHcpdY

That performance is tier one.
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March 7, 2014 8:37:49 AM

Sp00kie said:
aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
I would rather go Corsair RM750 instead of TX850. It's quieter and is 80+ gold instead of bronze meaning less heat and less power costs. And its $5 cheaper lol


Actually, the Corsair RM750 is rated Tier 3 (the same as the budget CX series)..... which I would avoid buying. The TX850 is far better.
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx


That's because the first units RM750 and RM850 that were produced and reviewed had some heat issues during testing. Those issues were addressed by Corsair and if you look at that website the RM550 which was reviewed and tested after the changes were made to production is Tier 1. I have two of the newer ones (an RM750 and an RM850 and am very satisfied) and I suspect that if they were reviewed again they would go to tier 1 as well.


According to several reviews in late 2013. The RM750 still uses no brand name secondary capacitors. So it's still rated Tier 3 for a reason. I highly doubt there is a newer version of the RM750 in that short-time period.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/11/13/corsair_rm750...
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1849/pg3/corsair-...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM750/4.html

So unless JonnyGuru or some reliable source recommends the RM750; I'll still rate it Tier 3.

Also, there is no way the RM550 is Tier 1. It is not better than the HX (Tier 2) and definitely can't compete with the AX (Tier 1).


I think you should scroll down that hardocp link you included and read it.


I did read it. It says nothing about changing the secondary capacitors which is why one of the main reason it is rated Tier 3... it could be Tier 2 now, but definitely not Tier 1.


wait...first you said you highly doubt there is a newer version. Now you say you knew there is a newer version but you don't like the brand of the secondary caps they use. hmmm. whatever.

For people that are interested in the actual performance of the current RM series, skip to about 40 minutes in of this video. OMG can this guy waffle on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCmLAtHcpdY

That performance is tier one.


I don't want to start a flame war, but you saying that the RM750 is Tier 1 is really a joke and you didn't even prove that you got a newer version of the PSU. Did you compare versions from the reviews and your unit? When I said highly doubt it; I actually meant it. Not many companies would bring out a revision that soon. It just proves that Corsair listens to its customers. Good luck telling the community that the RM750 is Tier 1 and having people agree with you. I'm done with this conversation and the OP already solved his problem. Take care.
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March 7, 2014 8:52:44 AM

aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
I would rather go Corsair RM750 instead of TX850. It's quieter and is 80+ gold instead of bronze meaning less heat and less power costs. And its $5 cheaper lol


Actually, the Corsair RM750 is rated Tier 3 (the same as the budget CX series)..... which I would avoid buying. The TX850 is far better.
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx


That's because the first units RM750 and RM850 that were produced and reviewed had some heat issues during testing. Those issues were addressed by Corsair and if you look at that website the RM550 which was reviewed and tested after the changes were made to production is Tier 1. I have two of the newer ones (an RM750 and an RM850 and am very satisfied) and I suspect that if they were reviewed again they would go to tier 1 as well.


According to several reviews in late 2013. The RM750 still uses no brand name secondary capacitors. So it's still rated Tier 3 for a reason. I highly doubt there is a newer version of the RM750 in that short-time period.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/11/13/corsair_rm750...
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1849/pg3/corsair-...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM750/4.html

So unless JonnyGuru or some reliable source recommends the RM750; I'll still rate it Tier 3.

Also, there is no way the RM550 is Tier 1. It is not better than the HX (Tier 2) and definitely can't compete with the AX (Tier 1).


I think you should scroll down that hardocp link you included and read it.


I did read it. It says nothing about changing the secondary capacitors which is why one of the main reason it is rated Tier 3... it could be Tier 2 now, but definitely not Tier 1.


wait...first you said you highly doubt there is a newer version. Now you say you knew there is a newer version but you don't like the brand of the secondary caps they use. hmmm. whatever.

For people that are interested in the actual performance of the current RM series, skip to about 40 minutes in of this video. OMG can this guy waffle on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCmLAtHcpdY

That performance is tier one.


I don't want to start a flame war, but you saying that the RM750 is Tier 1 is really a joke and you didn't even prove that you got a newer version of the PSU. Did you compare versions from the reviews and your unit? When I said highly doubt it; I actually meant it. Not many companies would bring out a revision that soon. It just proves that Corsair listens to its customers. Good luck telling the community that the RM750 is Tier 1 and having people agree with you. I'm done with this conversation and the OP already solved his problem. Take care.


I notice you didn't comment on the video of the actual test. Hard to argue with that isn't it. You just keep jumping around from one FUD point to another as each one is disproved. Yes. I have two of them actually - both newer models. One is an RM750 I got in November. The other is an RM850 I bought in December after being so satisfied with the RM750. I'm not here to "tell the community" anything. All I'm saying is that in my experience, this is a very good PSU that delivers the performance in terms of power and silence that is promises.
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March 7, 2014 9:27:23 AM

Sp00kie said:
I notice you didn't comment on the video of the actual test. Hard to argue with that isn't it. You just keep jumping around from one FUD point to another as each one is disproved. Yes. I have two of them actually - both newer models. One is an RM750 I got in November. The other is an RM850 I bought in December after being so satisfied with the RM750. I'm not here to "tell the community" anything. All I'm saying is that in my experience, this is a very good PSU that delivers the performance in terms of power and silence that is promises.


Why watch a video from someone that admits that they're a novice with power supplies and even says that they don't know much about them?
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March 7, 2014 9:53:38 AM

ko888 said:
Sp00kie said:
I notice you didn't comment on the video of the actual test. Hard to argue with that isn't it. You just keep jumping around from one FUD point to another as each one is disproved. Yes. I have two of them actually - both newer models. One is an RM750 I got in November. The other is an RM850 I bought in December after being so satisfied with the RM750. I'm not here to "tell the community" anything. All I'm saying is that in my experience, this is a very good PSU that delivers the performance in terms of power and silence that is promises.


Why watch a video from someone that admits that they're a novice with power supplies and even says that they don't know much about them?


Because nobody else has actually tested the new versions and that's why I said to skip to around minute 40 where you actually see the measurements on the machine under load.

I'm kind of surprised about how much snobish attitude there is on this forum. Aren't people interested in the actual results any more. The last guy's big gripe was the secondary caps were a brand he didn't like - now the issue is the guy testing the PSU is a noob yet the video actually shows the guy measuring the PSU. Who cares how new he is as long as he has the equipment and runs the PSU though the equipment properly.
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March 7, 2014 10:35:59 AM

Sp00kie said:
ko888 said:
Sp00kie said:
I notice you didn't comment on the video of the actual test. Hard to argue with that isn't it. You just keep jumping around from one FUD point to another as each one is disproved. Yes. I have two of them actually - both newer models. One is an RM750 I got in November. The other is an RM850 I bought in December after being so satisfied with the RM750. I'm not here to "tell the community" anything. All I'm saying is that in my experience, this is a very good PSU that delivers the performance in terms of power and silence that is promises.


Why watch a video from someone that admits that they're a novice with power supplies and even says that they don't know much about them?


Because nobody else has actually tested the new versions and that's why I said to skip to around minute 40 where you actually see the measurements on the machine under load.

I'm kind of surprised about how much snobish attitude there is on this forum. Aren't people interested in the actual results any more. The last guy's big gripe was the secondary caps were a brand he didn't like - now the issue is the guy testing the PSU is a noob yet the video actually shows the guy measuring the PSU. Who cares how new he is as long as he has the equipment and runs the PSU though the equipment properly.


You do know that reviews from people who test PSU's for a living is far more reliable than a novice review on YouTube, right? Just because the person has the right equipment doesn't mean he's a certified professional and everything he does is correct.

A gold efficiency PSU doesn't automatically mean it's better than a bronze efficiency PSU if the inside components are of lower quality or have defects. You have to factor in everything like the manufacturer, platform of the PSU, efficiency, inside components, stress tests, heat tests, protection features, noise, etc.

Yes, the RM is a great PSU and it's quiet, but like I said several times.... you cannot list it as Tier 1.
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March 7, 2014 11:05:07 AM

aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
ko888 said:
Sp00kie said:
I notice you didn't comment on the video of the actual test. Hard to argue with that isn't it. You just keep jumping around from one FUD point to another as each one is disproved. Yes. I have two of them actually - both newer models. One is an RM750 I got in November. The other is an RM850 I bought in December after being so satisfied with the RM750. I'm not here to "tell the community" anything. All I'm saying is that in my experience, this is a very good PSU that delivers the performance in terms of power and silence that is promises.


Why watch a video from someone that admits that they're a novice with power supplies and even says that they don't know much about them?


Because nobody else has actually tested the new versions and that's why I said to skip to around minute 40 where you actually see the measurements on the machine under load.

I'm kind of surprised about how much snobish attitude there is on this forum. Aren't people interested in the actual results any more. The last guy's big gripe was the secondary caps were a brand he didn't like - now the issue is the guy testing the PSU is a noob yet the video actually shows the guy measuring the PSU. Who cares how new he is as long as he has the equipment and runs the PSU though the equipment properly.


You do know that reviews from people who test PSU's for a living is far more reliable than a novice review on YouTube, right? Just because the person has the right equipment doesn't mean he's a certified professional and everything he does is correct.

A gold efficiency PSU doesn't automatically mean it's better than a bronze efficiency PSU if the inside components are of lower quality or have defects. You have to factor in everything like the manufacturer, platform of the PSU, efficiency, inside components, stress tests, heat tests, protection features, noise, etc.

Yes, the RM is a great PSU and it's quiet, but like I said several times.... you cannot list it as Tier 1.


Regarding tier 1, ok then, please point me to the technical specifications required to meet tier 1 status and tell me where this PSU doesn't meet them in terms of performance and don't give me any bs about the brand of the caps. Performance.

Regarding testing, lol I'm pretty sure there is no professional certificate for PSU testing. If I'm mistaken please let me know.

Finally, on gold vs bronze, what I said is that gold generates less heat and uses less mains power to generate the usable power for the system. I stand by that statement. I didn't say all gold rated PSUs are better than all bronze rates PSUs so arguing that with me as if I did is pointless.
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March 7, 2014 11:15:10 AM

Sp00kie said:
aylafan said:
Sp00kie said:
ko888 said:
Sp00kie said:
I notice you didn't comment on the video of the actual test. Hard to argue with that isn't it. You just keep jumping around from one FUD point to another as each one is disproved. Yes. I have two of them actually - both newer models. One is an RM750 I got in November. The other is an RM850 I bought in December after being so satisfied with the RM750. I'm not here to "tell the community" anything. All I'm saying is that in my experience, this is a very good PSU that delivers the performance in terms of power and silence that is promises.


Why watch a video from someone that admits that they're a novice with power supplies and even says that they don't know much about them?


Because nobody else has actually tested the new versions and that's why I said to skip to around minute 40 where you actually see the measurements on the machine under load.

I'm kind of surprised about how much snobish attitude there is on this forum. Aren't people interested in the actual results any more. The last guy's big gripe was the secondary caps were a brand he didn't like - now the issue is the guy testing the PSU is a noob yet the video actually shows the guy measuring the PSU. Who cares how new he is as long as he has the equipment and runs the PSU though the equipment properly.


You do know that reviews from people who test PSU's for a living is far more reliable than a novice review on YouTube, right? Just because the person has the right equipment doesn't mean he's a certified professional and everything he does is correct.

A gold efficiency PSU doesn't automatically mean it's better than a bronze efficiency PSU if the inside components are of lower quality or have defects. You have to factor in everything like the manufacturer, platform of the PSU, efficiency, inside components, stress tests, heat tests, protection features, noise, etc.

Yes, the RM is a great PSU and it's quiet, but like I said several times.... you cannot list it as Tier 1.


Regarding tier 1, ok then, please point me to the technical specifications required to meet tier 1 status and tell me where this PSU doesn't meet them in terms of performance and don't give me any bs about the brand of the caps. Performance.

Regarding testing, lol I'm pretty sure there is no professional certificate for PSU testing. If I'm mistaken please let me know.

Finally, on gold vs bronze, what I said is that gold generates less heat and uses less mains power to generate the usable power for the system. I stand by that statement. I didn't say all gold rated PSUs are better than all bronze rates PSUs so arguing that with me as if I did is pointless.


1. Tier 1 is based on reviews from reliable sources; the link I posted with Tiers are based on those reviews. The YouTube review you provided is not one of them.

2. It's obvious that professional certificate means technician/engineer/IT, etc. At least they know the basics of what they are doing and have the certificates to prove it.

3. I was just stating the difference between gold and bronze efficiency due to your Tier 1 logic.
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March 7, 2014 12:07:53 PM

Well than. That took an interesting turn.

Happy gaming.
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March 7, 2014 3:03:13 PM

barto said:
Well than. That took an interesting turn.

Happy gaming.

Haha, at least it gives me something interesting to read through while commercials are on TV.

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March 8, 2014 2:39:17 AM

Hmb556 said:
barto said:
Well than. That took an interesting turn.

Happy gaming.

Haha, at least it gives me something interesting to read through while commercials are on TV.



lol Glad its of some use. Here I was thinking how pointless it was.
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March 8, 2014 7:50:45 PM

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I'm kind of surprised about how much snobish attitude there is on this forum. Aren't people interested in the actual results any more. The last guy's big gripe was the secondary caps were a brand he didn't like


Not snobbish at all, but we would like to prevent the spread of misinformation.

The actual results do matter of course, which is why I'd rather trust reviews from JohnnyGURU or HardOCP than some newbie on Youtube.

The secondary caps do make a big difference. Capxon is a cheap brand which is what many of the RM models had - whether they are still produced or not does not matter, as there are sure to be original RM models still in retail that have yet to be sold. Capacitors are arguably the most important parts of a PSU - when the caps fail, the whole PSU fails.

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tell me where this PSU doesn't meet them in terms of performance


It doesn't push the same amount of performance under stress as the Tier 1 models. There are no "technical specifications" to be Tier 1, but anyone that knows anything about electrical engineering could easily show you the differences between power supplies from different tiers. It's a combination of things like aylafan said. Things like capacitors, heat sinks, solder, cabling, etc. all go into consideration.

We aren't saying the RM series is bad - on the contrary, we've stated several times that it is a nice, quiet PSU, but it does not belong in Tier 1.
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