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March 6, 2014 5:56:31 PM

of a memory card, what if I leave the pictures on a memory card for years? What will happen, will it make me loose the pictures forever?

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March 6, 2014 6:08:44 PM

The charge in NAND cells decays over time. The card will be perfectly fine, but the data will slowly corrupt over a period of several years, eventually needing to be reformatted. How long this takes depends on the size, brand, and general quality.

Flash is not a long-term storage option.
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March 6, 2014 6:13:05 PM

danfifepsu31 said:
of a memory card, what if I leave the pictures on a memory card for years? What will happen, will it make me loose the pictures forever?


A memory card (SD card) can fail unexpectedly. As soon as you take your pictures transfer the pictures to your computer hard disk. Personally, I would not use any SD card as a permanent storage device.
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March 6, 2014 8:31:36 PM

ok but for this memory card where I havent taken the pics off. I have had the card for 2 years. and put pics on from 9 months ago to 1.5 years ago. are they in danger yet? and another card 2 years.


how can a card fail unexpectedly and if it does how do I get my data back?
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March 6, 2014 8:44:58 PM

That's kind of like asking someone to plan unplanned outages...

Generally, the act of powering up the card re-energises the flash, though I'm not sure.

You generally can't get the data back off failed flash, though it's more likely to slowly corrupt than to actually fail outright. In which case it's only likely to be a few pictures that you have trouble with.

Storing data on small stuff like an SD card is usually a bad idea. What do you do if you drop the card down a drain or it gets wet or something.

The normal story goes here: BACK UP EVERYTHING IMPORTANT.
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March 7, 2014 5:03:22 AM

when you said I generally cant get the data badk from a failed flash drive what do i Do of the data, send it to a data recovery center or use computer data recovery software?

I cant get my data off the memory card is the problem but the camera shows them and best buy said how I canrt get the data off. why is it that geek squad is nothing but guesses or they say scary stuff.
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March 7, 2014 6:00:09 AM

Do not start multiple threads for the same topic, in your other post you said you can see the pictures in the camera but can't on a computer. You need to reply to the questions I had there before you can move to other things. In general, big box stores support is not the best, they often only know a certain amount and anything past that they tend to give out wrong guesses or work on fixing the wrong thing which can lead to data loss.
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March 7, 2014 7:02:59 AM

hang-the-9 said:
Do not start multiple threads for the same topic, in your other post you said you can see the pictures in the camera but can't on a computer. You need to reply to the questions I had there before you can move to other things. In general, big box stores support is not the best, they often only know a certain amount and anything past that they tend to give out wrong guesses or work on fixing the wrong thing which can lead to data loss.


your smart sir! but I bet best buy couldnt even help me if I caught on fire. can data loss happen if the memory card goes on used?

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March 7, 2014 7:06:20 AM

danfifepsu31 said:
hang-the-9 said:
Do not start multiple threads for the same topic, in your other post you said you can see the pictures in the camera but can't on a computer. You need to reply to the questions I had there before you can move to other things. In general, big box stores support is not the best, they often only know a certain amount and anything past that they tend to give out wrong guesses or work on fixing the wrong thing which can lead to data loss.


your smart sir! but I bet best buy couldnt even help me if I caught on fire. can data loss happen if the memory card goes on used?



This has already been answered! Data loss can occur at any time! That's why it is important to transfer the data (pictures) from the SD card on to a hard disk soon after taking pictures. After that, backup the hard disk on to an external hard disk!
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March 7, 2014 7:27:43 AM

Ubrales said:
danfifepsu31 said:
hang-the-9 said:
Do not start multiple threads for the same topic, in your other post you said you can see the pictures in the camera but can't on a computer. You need to reply to the questions I had there before you can move to other things. In general, big box stores support is not the best, they often only know a certain amount and anything past that they tend to give out wrong guesses or work on fixing the wrong thing which can lead to data loss.


your smart sir! but I bet best buy couldnt even help me if I caught on fire. can data loss happen if the memory card goes on used?



This has already been answered! Data loss can occur at any time! That's why it is important to transfer the data (pictures) from the SD card on to a hard disk soon after taking pictures. After that, backup the hard disk on to an external hard disk!



hmmmmm. I have a memory card where I put the pics on my computer onto a cd and left the pics on the card and 3 years later the card works like new.

how can data loss occur

I have never had a memory card fail on me, though I have taken 100,000s of pics.
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March 7, 2014 7:56:07 AM

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hmmmmm. I have a memory card where I put the pics on my computer onto a cd and left the pics on the card and 3 years later the card works like new.

how can data loss occur

I have never had a memory card fail on me, though I have taken 100,000s of pics.


You have just answered your own question!
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March 7, 2014 10:31:12 AM

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hmmmmm. I have a memory card where I put the pics on my computer onto a cd and left the pics on the card and 3 years later the card works like new.

how can data loss occur

I have never had a memory card fail on me, though I have taken 100,000s of pics.


You have just answered your own question!


sorry abou tthis but all I get is nothing but guesses esp from BEST buy, RAdio Shack etc.

wht can corrupt a card?
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a c 111 G Storage
March 7, 2014 2:26:55 PM

I've had about 3 SD cards fail. Repeated writing over the same area trashes them.

Old age kills flash quite well. Lots of different things.
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March 7, 2014 2:35:30 PM

Someone Somewhere said:
I've had about 3 SD cards fail. Repeated writing over the same area trashes them.

Old age kills flash quite well. Lots of different things.




what age???

and how many times of writing over? I have a memory card that I have written over a few times and downloaded stuff and I formated that card in the camera. what wil that do?
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a c 111 G Storage
March 7, 2014 3:00:22 PM

Under a year for some of them.

Probably about half a dozen to a dozen formats, with serious numbers of writes. Main OS drive for ARM systems.
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March 7, 2014 3:37:17 PM

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what age???

and how many times of writing over? I have a memory card that I have written over a few times and downloaded stuff and I formated that card in the camera. what wil that do?


SD cards and flash drives have a lower quality of memory when compared to SSDs, and can fail unexpectedly.

Another real problem with SD cards is the fact that there are many fake cards in the market. These fake SD cards look very much like the real genuine SD cards and even manufacturers have a hard time telling the difference. These fake cards fail prematurely, and some of them will not work at all. This adds to the problem that some users are faced with.

This is why it is hard to predict the life span.
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March 7, 2014 5:13:23 PM

Someone Somewhere said:
Under a year for some of them.

Probably about half a dozen to a dozen formats, with serious numbers of writes. Main OS drive for ARM systems.


which ones less than a year. i have the 8 gb one that I cant get anything off, I Filled it last Summer, I started using it in summer 2012. how far is it from losing everything?

if it gets too old how do I Retrive the data if it doesnt work? I tried the card TODAY and it WORKS!!!!
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a c 111 G Storage
March 7, 2014 6:03:40 PM

Some super-cheap crap off ebay, by memory. It would still mount and everything, but there was enough corruption that it wouldn't boot.

SD cards aren't intended for long-term storage. The idea is that you take the pictures, then you pull the pictures off onto a hard drive and use the card again.

It's really hard to guess anything to do with this, because there's a huge amount of randomness and unknowable variables.
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March 7, 2014 7:20:50 PM

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Some super-cheap crap off ebay, by memory. It would still mount and everything, but there was enough corruption that it wouldn't boot.

SD cards aren't intended for long-term storage. The idea is that you take the pictures, then you pull the pictures off onto a hard drive and use the card again.

It's really hard to guess anything to do with this, because there's a huge amount of randomness and unknowable variables.


what of 5 years later and again if the card doesnt work and there is data on it, how do you get the data? A data recovery program and or send it out somewhere but pay a high price?

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a c 111 G Storage
March 7, 2014 7:23:30 PM

Probably pretty much nothing you can do, though it depends on what failed.
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March 8, 2014 12:44:32 AM

SD card is not a permanent storage device. You'd better backup important data to hard disk or external hard disk.
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March 8, 2014 4:44:01 AM

Someone Somewhere said:
Probably pretty much nothing you can do, though it depends on what failed.


what of take it to a data recovery center?
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March 8, 2014 11:26:16 AM

Someone Somewhere said:
Probably pretty much nothing you can do, though it depends on what failed.



I checked my memory card and its OK but how much longer?

again if the memory card decays what work will need to be done to get the pics back?
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a c 111 G Storage
March 8, 2014 4:54:59 PM

You can't really. If it's corrupt, it's corrupt. Some of the files might be OK, but some might be broken. That's the point of a backup.

Again, guessing how long it will last is a very difficult thing. It could be a decade, or it could be a couple of weeks to a month.
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March 8, 2014 9:24:24 PM

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That's kind of like asking someone to plan unplanned outages...

Generally, the act of powering up the card re-energises the flash, though I'm not sure.

You generally can't get the data back off failed flash, though it's more likely to slowly corrupt than to actually fail outright. In which case it's only likely to be a few pictures that you have trouble with.

Storing data on small stuff like an SD card is usually a bad idea. What do you do if you drop the card down a drain or it gets wet or something.

The normal story goes here: BACK UP EVERYTHING IMPORTANT.


Someone Somewhere said:
You can't really. If it's corrupt, it's corrupt. Some of the files might be OK, but some might be broken. That's the point of a backup.

Again, guessing how long it will last is a very difficult thing. It could be a decade, or it could be a couple of weeks to a month.


what depends on how long it can last. and for the files broken what will the files look like?
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a c 111 G Storage
March 8, 2014 11:16:06 PM

Everything. It's unpredictable. Two identical cards could perform very differently. It's random. I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOUR CARD WILL FAIL.

The files would look absolutely fine until you read them. You might even be able to copy them, but they'll be broken.
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March 9, 2014 7:23:08 AM

Pictures that exist in only one place may be considered to not exist at all.
Especially if they only live on an SD card.
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March 9, 2014 10:40:59 AM

Someone Somewhere said:
Everything. It's unpredictable. Two identical cards could perform very differently. It's random. I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOUR CARD WILL FAIL.

The files would look absolutely fine until you read them. You might even be able to copy them, but they'll be broken.



what aer oyu saying, when I last looked at the memory card 3 days ago the pictures WERE FINE. but what will the pics look like when broken. tahts better than no pics.

I WANT MY PICS BACK!!!! I cant take them off the card!!!!!!!! BEst b uy said they cannot be taken off and only the SD card will read it.
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March 9, 2014 10:43:07 AM

danfifepsu31 said:
Someone Somewhere said:
Everything. It's unpredictable. Two identical cards could perform very differently. It's random. I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOUR CARD WILL FAIL.

The files would look absolutely fine until you read them. You might even be able to copy them, but they'll be broken.



what aer oyu saying, when I last looked at the memory card 3 days ago the pictures WERE FINE. but what will the pics look like when broken. tahts better than no pics.

I WANT MY PICS BACK!!!! I cant take them off the card!!!!!!!! BEst b uy said they cannot be taken off and only the SD card will read it.


Why haven't you taken those files off the SD card?
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March 9, 2014 10:56:20 AM

USAFRet said:
danfifepsu31 said:
Someone Somewhere said:
Everything. It's unpredictable. Two identical cards could perform very differently. It's random. I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOUR CARD WILL FAIL.

The files would look absolutely fine until you read them. You might even be able to copy them, but they'll be broken.



what aer oyu saying, when I last looked at the memory card 3 days ago the pictures WERE FINE. but what will the pics look like when broken. tahts better than no pics.

I WANT MY PICS BACK!!!! I cant take them off the card!!!!!!!! BEst b uy said they cannot be taken off and only the SD card will read it.


Why haven't you taken those files off the SD card?


they wont get off! when I Tried to plug it in the camera from a usb and the comp wouldnt recognize them. best buy said I cant get them off (The geek squad). I AM SO SICK OF THIs, when something goes wrong wit ha cell phone, camera, laptop I get nothing but guesses when I Try to get help.

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March 9, 2014 11:08:43 AM

OK...I'm late to the party here, but I did go read your other thread:

Specifically, what happens when you plug the camera in via USB?
Have you tried a card reader?
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a c 111 G Storage
March 9, 2014 6:08:45 PM

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BEst b uy said they cannot be taken off and only the SD card will read it.

OK, there's our problem. I'm pretty sure that's wrong, unless they're in RAW format and you don't have the software to read it or something.

What camera took them? What's the file format?
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March 9, 2014 7:17:26 PM

Someone Somewhere said:
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BEst b uy said they cannot be taken off and only the SD card will read it.

OK, there's our problem. I'm pretty sure that's wrong, unless they're in RAW format and you don't have the software to read it or something.

What camera took them? What's the file format?



what if they are in raw format and I used nixon. ARe the files stuck on there forever?????

how come I have memory cards that still work 3 years later?

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March 9, 2014 7:30:01 PM

danfifepsu31 said:
Someone Somewhere said:
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BEst b uy said they cannot be taken off and only the SD card will read it.

OK, there's our problem. I'm pretty sure that's wrong, unless they're in RAW format and you don't have the software to read it or something.

What camera took them? What's the file format?



what if they are in raw format and I used nixon. ARe the files stuck on there forever?????

how come I have memory cards that still work 3 years later?



I have some SmartMedia cards that are almost 18 years old, and still work fine.
I've had other cards that have died within 6 months.

But I don't think I've ever left pictures on a camera card longer than a week or two. Those things are temporary storage.

Get your files off that card, by what ever means necessary. If you can't get them off....well...they're gone.
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a c 111 G Storage
March 9, 2014 7:31:44 PM

I didn't say that they wouldn't work. However, if you leave them without using them in anything, they do lose charge. It's random.

Get Nikon's (I'm assuming) software for decoding the RAW files. Or any one of a number of other utilities. Lots of photographers shoot in RAW.

There wouldn't be much point in taking the photos if you couldn't use them, would there?
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March 9, 2014 7:47:49 PM

USAFRet said:
danfifepsu31 said:
Someone Somewhere said:
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BEst b uy said they cannot be taken off and only the SD card will read it.

OK, there's our problem. I'm pretty sure that's wrong, unless they're in RAW format and you don't have the software to read it or something.

What camera took them? What's the file format?



what if they are in raw format and I used nixon. ARe the files stuck on there forever?????

how come I have memory cards that still work 3 years later?



I have some SmartMedia cards that are almost 18 years old, and still work fine.
I've had other cards that have died within 6 months.

But I don't think I've ever left pictures on a camera card longer than a week or two. Those things are temporary storage.

Get your files off that card, by what ever means necessary. If you can't get them off....well...they're gone.



what do you mean they are gone? they exist. and if I cant get them off, what help do I Go to get them off. what do I Do if I cant get the cards off?
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March 9, 2014 7:55:18 PM

danfifepsu31 said:

what do you mean they are gone? they exist. and if I cant get them off, what help do I Go to get them off. what do I Do if I cant get the cards off?


Have you tried a USB card reader?
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March 9, 2014 7:57:41 PM

no but what if it doesnt work? The pictures SHOW in the camera. they cant be gone. they couldnt be unless the card was dropped in water or caught on fire.


Also what happens when one formats a memory card. how do they get the data back then?
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March 9, 2014 8:02:22 PM

what if what if what if....
What if it doesn't work? Well then, it doesn't work.

Copy the pictures elsewhere. Card reader, USB from the camera, whatever....
Otherwise, it was just a fun afternoon when you went 'click'.
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a c 111 G Storage
March 9, 2014 8:07:35 PM

The camera likely caches thumbnails, possibly in a different place to the full images.
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March 10, 2014 8:46:25 AM

when does it catch thumbnails and of my pics I Saw them on the mnemory card in the camera 3 days ago and they are still there BUT I WANT MY PICS OFF THE MEMORY CARD. can someone help me!!!!! All I get for help from places like Best buy is nothing but guesses. What if a card reader doesnt work????????????????

can the card being a nixon have something to do with it???? I WANT MY PICS BACK


when the card decays what will the pics look like when I Try to retrieve them?


I need help other than just guesses.
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March 10, 2014 8:47:52 AM

You keep asking the same questions without actually doing any of the suggestions. Get a card reader, if it does not work, then you can check other things.
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March 10, 2014 8:51:24 AM

hang-the-9 said:
You keep asking the same questions without actually doing any of the suggestions. Get a card reader, if it does not work, then you can check other things.



whats the chances my pics are retrievalble.
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March 10, 2014 9:39:29 AM

danfifepsu31 said:
hang-the-9 said:
You keep asking the same questions without actually doing any of the suggestions. Get a card reader, if it does not work, then you can check other things.



whats the chances my pics are retrievalble.


Since we don't know if the issue is with the camera or with the card, no way to figure things out.
It's like asking what are the chances your car is simply out of gas or is broken without checking to see if it has gas first.
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March 10, 2014 10:35:22 AM

hang-the-9 said:
danfifepsu31 said:
hang-the-9 said:
You keep asking the same questions without actually doing any of the suggestions. Get a card reader, if it does not work, then you can check other things.



whats the chances my pics are retrievalble.


Since we don't know if the issue is with the camera or with the card, no way to figure things out.
It's like asking what are the chances your car is simply out of gas or is broken without checking to see if it has gas first.



since the pictures show ont he card in the camera, what sthe chances they are retreiveable

ITS best buy's fault with this saying thinks like the data is gone or when my camera lens jammed I will have to buy a new camera etc.
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March 10, 2014 2:09:03 PM

danfifepsu31 said:

since the pictures show ont he card in the camera, what sthe chances they are retreiveable


If you don't try any of the mentioned solutions - 0%
If you try something - somewhere between 0.1% and 100%
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March 10, 2014 5:45:22 PM

USAFRet said:
danfifepsu31 said:

since the pictures show ont he card in the camera, what sthe chances they are retreiveable


If you don't try any of the mentioned solutions - 0%
If you try something - somewhere between 0.1% and 100%



I Want my pics back but then the only way I will prob loose them is if the memroy card is dropped in water or in a fire.
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March 10, 2014 5:59:58 PM

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a c 111 G Storage
March 10, 2014 7:09:32 PM

OK: Copy the files off the SD card. Even if you can't open them because you don't have the software, you should be able to get a pile of .NEF files, safely onto your computer.
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March 11, 2014 12:04:07 PM

whats the chances of recovery? also there is another memory card I havent gotten the data off of that I got 2 years ago and last used the card Summer of 2012. What will happen with that data too? ITs a 4GB kodiak card.


Ok when the card deterioriates what will the pictures look like when I upload them?
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