do I need extra fans in my case

tombops · Mar 7, 2014

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/35Ej6
this is the build im thinking of will I need extra fans or will the two that it comes with do. Also any other suggestions on how to make the build better for around the same price would be nice.

envy14tpe · Mar 7, 2014

You might want to get a bigger monitor. Also, why a 780 instead of a 770?
This is what I suggest:

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/35FGL
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($275.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($199.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($105.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($429.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($125.00 @ CPL Online)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($32.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.34 @ Mwave Australia)
Optical Drive: LG BH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($88.00 @ CPL Online)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($115.00 @ CPL Online)
Monitor: AOC i2367Fh 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($199.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($44.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $2038.34

EasyLover · Mar 7, 2014

This build is with GTX 780

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($275.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($85.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-C ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($155.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($645.00 @ CPL Online)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($32.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: Antec TruePower Classic 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($129.00 @ CPL Online)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($112.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor ($189.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $2030.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-08 01:25 EST+1100)

tombops · Mar 7, 2014

I want a be able to add a second gtx 780 in the future. thats why I picked the Phantom 510 case over the 410 and also why I picked the 750w psu

envy14tpe · Mar 7, 2014

tombops :

You can easily add a second 780 to a Phantom 410. I'd just suggest looking for more fans instead of volume. Also, if you want to run 2x780 then get a 850W PSU to be safe. 750W is very much so on the low side. I'd either go 650W or 850W.

tombops · Mar 7, 2014

and also why do you recommend the gskill ram over the cosair

envy14tpe · Mar 7, 2014

tombops :

The one I linked is cheaper and faster then the one you chose. Win win. Gskill and Corsair are top level RAM makers. Both are great. The reason GSkill wins is cuz of what I mentioned.

tombops · Mar 7, 2014

but why the other motherboard isn't the one I chose cheeper and basically the same

envy14tpe · Mar 7, 2014

tombops :

The ASRock one is cheaper but the Asus one is slightly better. Higher tier manufacturer. Overall the build is cheaper so put more money into a quality mobo.

EasyLover · Mar 7, 2014

Here is another option with bit changes in it. Mobo is changed. Pl don't spend too much on mobo. 850W PSU is included. Monitor is 1920x1080 with 1ms response time. RAM is G.Skill RipJaw X series. This is a great RAM worth of its value over price. Case can easily support second GTX 780. No issue there:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($275.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($85.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.00 @ PLE Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ CPL Online)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($645.00 @ CPL Online)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($32.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Plus 850W 80+ Silver Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.00 @ CPL Online)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($112.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor ($189.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $2064.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-08 02:01 EST+1100)

Should you have more questions, feel free to ask pl.

tombops · Mar 7, 2014

sounds good but I have a couple of questions.
is the cpu cooler as good as the 212 EVO.
why the smaller storage I want a fair bit.
is silver certified ok or do I need a gold certified psu.
I want a blu ray burner for backing up my movies

envy14tpe · Mar 7, 2014

The NH-U14S is an excellent cooler, much better than the Evo 212.
Stick with the 250GB EVO SSD.
Silver or Gold: PSU. It is all the same. As long as it is Bronze and a good PSU then enough..

EasyLover · Mar 7, 2014

tombops :

Dear, Noctua is the best cooler in aftermarket air cooler category. It has covered me perfectly. If you want Evo 212 is also good option.

Smaller storage vide SSD or vide HDD?

Silver is good enough for you. If you want I can give you gold option as well.

Blue ray really!

EasyLover · Mar 7, 2014

Here is another option for you:

This time it has 2TB HDD, 850W Gold PSU, Bluray player

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($275.00 @ CPL Online)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212X 82.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($45.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($175.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($645.00 @ CPL Online)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.00 @ CPL Online)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($32.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($199.00 @ PLE Computers)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDC-207DBK Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($64.00 @ CPL Online)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($112.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor ($189.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $2202.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-08 02:47 EST+1100)

tombops · Mar 7, 2014

what about this build
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/35HWU

envy14tpe · Mar 7, 2014

Looks good. You do realize that a 770 will max out that monitor? A 780 is overkill. I would only recommend a 780 for 3 monitor gaming or a 120/144Hz monitor setup.

ASRock is ok for mobos but the Asus one is better quality components.

tombops · Mar 7, 2014

ill be connecting the pc to my 39" tv most of the time to play games

EasyLover · Mar 7, 2014

Build is good. Though you can easily skip the monitor if connecting with the TV. Otherwise monitor in my build is much better.

tombops · Mar 7, 2014

I also have to think about if the monitor will fit in my computer cabinet. it's a bit small but I made it myself so I want to keep it. also if I do get the 770 should I get the 2gb or the 4gb

EasyLover · Mar 7, 2014

Rephrased:

"Having enough memory is important for performance, but more is not always better. For those playing on a single monitor with a resolution of 1920x1080, 2 GB is going to be adequate in many cases, but next-gen games like Battlefield 4 will require more to play at the highest settings. If you're playing at a higher resolution and/or with multiple monitors, you'll likely need more."

Source: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/introduction-to-pc-components#2

envy14tpe · Mar 7, 2014

since you are connecting to a TV then definitely get a 770. You will never need more than 2GB VRAM.

Easylover... where do you create this nonsense from?

EasyLover · Mar 7, 2014

envy14tpe :

Care to elaborate pl

EasyLover · Mar 7, 2014

Ohhh! sorry, forgot to share my source.

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/introduction-to-pc-components#2

EasyLover · Mar 7, 2014

OP: stick with 2GB version, it would be plenty. However, for future safe you may consider buying 4GB version if budget is not an issue.

tombops · Mar 7, 2014

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/35T7p
thoughts on this final build

do I need extra fans in my case

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