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....replacing a Delta DPS-400QB A (400w) in a Sony VGC-RC210g desktop.

Would pefer to match up with existing case screw holes.

unable to find exact dimensions of this Dayton model on line and do not trust my tape measure!

Upgrading to 650w is the plan.

ANY HELP APPRECIATED!
 
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That gpu is a good upgrade from what you had, and from this point on, i would upgrade your cpu and motherboard for the next time you feel you need to upgrade. i would not go out and just buy a better video card until such a time as you do make a cpu upgrade (the 750 is still fine though, just anything more powerful may run into bottlenecks.)
also it's more case compatibility, as power supplies usually follow a size standard, and if they are the same form factor, the screw holes are generally in the same places. measure your psu, then look for a psu with close measurements, or see if your case supports a possibly bigger style of psu
 

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TY for reply.
my fear is Sony's reputation and my personal experience that they really like to take proprietary
or OEM and "tweak" it just enough to drive you crazy.

In this case, the existing is (approx) 5-1/2 x 3-3/8 x 5-3/4 (w-h-d) and I really don't want to
use a dremmel or self taping screws to mount a new PSU because Delta made "something special" (the A in QBA model ref.) just for Sony.

I contacted a seller on e-bay with the exact model for sale but as he she or it never came back to my request for measurements, I've run out of ideas.........
 
It looks like the atx psu format, the atx psu's physical dimensions is 150 × 86 × 140 mm (5.9 × 3.4 × 5.5 in). And all the atx psu have the same design duide for the dimensions, but with the various depth/lengths because it depends on the power/ wattage, like higher power one has longer in size because the components. For more info you can google " atx psu design guide ". Like brantyn gerik siad the the screw holes are generally in the same.

Also when you buy the PSU you need pay attention on the quality. Here is the PSU requirements for the GPU. http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm You maybe don't need the 650W, get the better brand PSU like antec, Corsair, EVGA, XFX, etc.
 
what you would do to get proper hole spacing is to put a sheet of paper over the new psu, poke holes with a pencil where the screw holes are, then put the paper onto your case, and color in the holes in the paper to give you a template of where to drill or poke holes. it's thin metal and any household drill will work
 

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Brantyn Gerik.......solid, solid, practical advice.............thank you.
In the proocess, it seem cautionary to place cardboard between where the drill bit might go & where
the shavings (if any) shouldn't go.
I'm 30 years construction & retired and my expereience is with
1/2 hp percussion drills....not sissy dremmels! Scared to death to get carried away.

cin19...likewise helpful, but in a different way.
You actually provided info for phase two of my plans.

My rig is old and the writting is on the wall.... the plan is to max out it's potential
as a multi media center and information storage and retrieval archive.
I'm overkilling, somewhat,now, believing my options will diminish over time.
I've already burned up 2 IDE burner-players and just ordered a third from ebay.
That's not where I woukl prefer to shop!

All this is to say, if it's permitted, can we talk graphics cards.



 

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goodie, goodie, goodie....here we go..............

$$$$$...
PSU: around $100 max. Deals have away of showing up if you keep looking!
80Bronze, single rail and too many cables! I love options and don't know for sure where I' m going to end up!
Love how quiet the Delta has been (as opposed to the Seagate 160 hd!). glitz don't impress me.
Corsair, Antec, something from Tom's "Tier two" list. My main is 24 but prefer 20+4 as may use elsewhere.
Limiting factor here is size...the ones I"ve liked are 6-61/2". Not sure that's a good idea in a 7" net interior! ??
Should I worry about cooling? have 2 internal plus 1 on PSU and, I expect 1 on Video card.

Video Card ...no more than $150. Min 2GB DDR5 memory
Had an ATI Radeon with 128MB memory and now an Nvidea Geforce 8400GS w/512.
Yet with this board and this BIOS, I have monitored a "shared" memory of 1.91GB?

When I am running all 6 hd (4 Internal + 2-2TB external), things slow down when I'm online.
My theory is if the RAM (which is maxed out to 4GB) is no longer shared it will help overall performance.
Am I wrong?
Also I will be adding a second 32" Samsung HD TV for dual monitors......guess I'll need extea Dvi/HDMI!

my Chipset is Intel's 945, the board has the LGA775 socket and the CPU is Intel's Pentiumd 930 dual core @3GHz. The BIOS is a 2007 and because this is now a legacy board I do not expect another release.
.........................................................
I had problems posting so much info so have seperately posted details and TMI gleaned from Sandra and Everest

I am most appreciative of help...so i leave, saying:
"..to the Purveyors of The Infinitye Wisdom and Gods of All That is Technologikalee Possible, i, this
lowly noob, do humbly beseech thy guidence.........."
 

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my current configuration:
Model : Sony VGC-RC210G
Chassis : Sony Desktop
Mainboard : Intel PRAGUE
BIOS : Intel PR94510J.04T.0121.2007.0129.2113 01/29/2007
Total Memory : 3.25GB DIMM DDR2 (obviously, a 32bit)

Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 6.01.7601 (Service Pack 1)
Platform Compliance : x86

Processors
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz (2C 3GHz, 2x 2MB L2)
Socket/Slot : FC µPGA478...........ID by others is LGA775?
Minimum/Maximum/Turbo Speed : 600MHz - 3GHz
Peak Processing Performance (PPP) : 12GFLOPS
Adjusted Peak Performance (APP) : 3.6WG
Cores per Processor : 2 Unit(s)
Bus : Intel AGTL+
Multiplier : 15x
Minimum/Maximum/Turbo Multiplier : 3x - 15x
Front Side Bus Speed : 200MHz
Generation : 8 / 0 / 0
Name : P4CM (Cedar Mill) Pentium 4E 65nm
Revision/Stepping : 6 / 2
Latest Version : 6 / 5
Stepping Mask : B1
Microcode : MU0F06020F
Core Voltage Rating : 1.400V
Min/Max Core Voltage : N/A - 1.400V
Maximum Power : 85.833W
Maximum Physical / Virtual Addressing : 36-bit / 48-bit
Native Page Size : 4kB
Large Page Size : 2MB


Mainboard
Manufacturer : Intel
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processing (MPS) Version : 1.40
Model : PRAGUE
Version : AAD12395-206
Serial Number : BTPR60******
Removable : No
Replaceable : Yes
Hot Swap : No

On-board Devices
Intel(R) Extreme Graphics 3 Controller : Video Adapter (Disabled)
Intel (R) 82562 Ethernet Device : Ethernet Adapter (Enabled)
Intel(R) Azalia Audio Device : Sound Adapter (Enabled)

Chipset
Model : Sony 82945G/GZ/P/PL Processor to I/O Controller
OEM Device Name : Intel 82945G/GZ/P/PL Processor to I/O Controller
Revision : A1
Bus : Intel AGTL+
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 200MHz (800MHz)
Maximum FSB Speed : 4x 267MHz (1GHz)
Width : 64-bit
Crossfire Technology : Yes
I/O Queue Depth : 12 request(s)
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 6.25GB/s
Maximum Power : 13.350W

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : DMI (Direct Media Interface)
Version : 1.00
No. Ports : 4
In/Out Width : 4-bit / 4-bit
Duplex : Yes
Multiplier : 3x
Speed : 100MHz

Logical/Chipset Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 1GB DIMM DDR2 4-4-4-12 8-16-4-2 1T
Bank 2 : 1GB DIMM DDR2 4-4-4-12 8-16-4-2 1T
Bank 4 : 1GB DIMM DDR2 4-4-4-12 8-16-4-2 1T
Bank 6 : 1GB DIMM DDR2 4-4-4-12 8-16-4-2 1T
Supported Memory Types : DIMM DDR2
Channels : 2
Width : 128-bit
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 267MHz (534MHz)
Maximum Memory Speed : 2x 333MHz (666MHz)
Multiplier : 8/6x
Refresh Rate : 8µs
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 8.34GB/s

APIC 1
Version : 2.00
Multiplier : 1/2x
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler Engaged : Yes
Enhanced Support : Yes

Memory Module.............(all 4 the same specs)
Manufacturer : Crucial
Type : 1GB DIMM DDR2
Technology : 8x(128Mx8)
Speed : PC2-5300U DDR2-666
Standard Timings : 5-5-5-15 3-20-5-3
Version : 1.03
Date of Manufacture : Saturday, January 01, 2011
Memory DC Line : 1.800V
Timing @ 333MHz : 5-5-5-15 3-20-5-3
Timing @ 267MHz : 4-4-4-12 2-16-4-2
Timing @ 200MHz : 3-3-3-9 2-12-3-2
Timing @ 333MHz : 5-5-5-15 3-20-5-3
Timing @ 267MHz : 4-4-4-12 2-16-4-2
Timing @ 200MHz : 3-3-3-9 2-12-3-2



Sensor
Model : SMSC EMC6D103 SMB
Version : 6.08
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Cooling Device(s)
Auto Fan Speed Control : Yes
Chassis Fan : 2105rpm
Chassis Fan : 26%
CPU Fan : 26%
CPU 2/Aux Fan : 34%

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU DC Line : 1.225V
CPU 2/Aux DC Line : 1.553V
+3.3V DC Line : 3.300V
+5V DC Line : 5.059V
+12V DC Line : 11.969V

System Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.30
System Bus 0 : PCI
System Bus 1 : PCIe 1.00 x16 2.5Gbps
System Bus 2 : PCIe 1.00 x1 2.5Gbps
System Bus 3 : PCIe 1.00 x1 2.5Gbps
System Bus 4 : PCIe 1.00 x1 2.5Gbps
System Bus 5 : PCI66

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : Sony 82801GB/GR (ICH7) LPC Interface Controller
OEM Device Name : Intel 82801GB/GR (ICH7) LPC Interface Controller
Revision : A2
ACPI Power Management Enabled : Yes
Advanced TCO Mode Support : Yes
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
High Precision Timer Support : Yes
High Precision Timer Enabled : No
Delayed Transaction Enabled : Yes

LPC Legacy Controller 1
Type : SMSC LPC47M182
Version : 0.01
No. Enabled Devices : 3 Unit(s)

Disk Controller
Model : Sony 82801G (ICH7) Ultra ATA Storage Controller
OEM Device Name : Intel 82801G (ICH7) Ultra ATA Storage Controller
Interface : ATA
Revision : A2
Maximum UDMA Mode : UltraDMA-5 / ATA100
Channels : 2
In Use Channels : 2, 100%
Port : UltraDMA-2 / ATA33
Port : UltraDMA-2 / ATA33

Disk Controller
Model : Sony 82801GB I/O Controller Hub SATA cc=RAID
OEM Device Name : Intel 82801GB I/O Controller Hub SATA cc=RAID
Interface : SATA
Revision : A2
Maximum SATA Mode : G2 / SATA300
RAID Support : Yes
RAID Enabled : Yes
Channels : 4
In Use Channels : 4, 100%
Port : G2 / SATA300
Port : G2 / SATA300
Port : G2 / SATA300
Port : G2 / SATA300


Video System
Monitor/Panel : Samsung SAMSUNG...........32" HD
LNR 328W
1360 X 768 (max & opt)
Color System NTSC
Video IN......1.0Vp_p @ 75ohm

Video Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS (1CU 8SP SM4.0 1.4GHz, 512MB DDR2 798MHz 64-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)

Graphics Processor
Manufacturer : NVIDIA Corporation
Model : NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS
OEM Device Name : nVidia GeForce 8400 GS (G98)
Version : 1.00
Driver Version : 331.65
Type : Graphics Processor
OpenCL GP Processor : NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS (8SP 1C 1.4GHz, 512MB DDR2 798MHz 64-bit)
Compute Shader Processor : NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS (8SP 1C 1.4GHz, 512MB DDR2 798MHz 64-bit)
CUDA GP Processor : NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS (8SP 1C 1.4GHz, 512MB DDR2 798MHz 64-bit)
Interface : OpenCL GP Processor
Shader Speed : 1.4GHz
Unified Shaders : 8 Unit(s)
Peak Processing Performance (PPP) : 22.4GFLOPS
Adjusted Peak Performance (APP) : 20.16WG




Storage Devices
WDC WD5000AZRX-00A8LB0 (500.1GB, SATA600, 3.5") : 466GB (G:)
Seagate ST3160023AS (160GB, SATA150, 3.5", 8MB Cache) : 149GB (C:) (E:)
WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 (1TB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm) : 932GB (V:)
Seagate ST1000DM003-9YN162 (1TB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm) : 932GB (X:)
HP Officejet 7410 (USB1) : N/A (K:)
Sony USB HS-MS (USB2) : N/A (I:)
Sony USB HS-CF (USB2) : N/A (J:)
Sony USB HS-SM/xD (USB2) : N/A (L:)
Sony USB HS-SD MMC (USB2) : N/A (M:)
ATAPI iHAP222 W (ATA66, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache) : N/A (D:)

Logical Storage Devices
New Volume (G:) : 466GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD5000AZRX-00A8LB0 (500.1GB, SATA600, 3.5")
Hard Disk (C:) : 90GB (NTFS) @ Seagate ST3160023AS (160GB, SATA150, 3.5", 8MB Cache)
New Volume (V:) : 932GB (NTFS) @ WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 (1TB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm)
New Volume (X:) : 932GB (NTFS) @ Seagate ST1000DM003-9YN162 (1TB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm)
New Volume (E:) : 59GB (NTFS) @ Seagate ST3160023AS (160GB, SATA150, 3.5", 8MB Cache)
Removable Drive (K:) : N/A @ HP Officejet 7410 (USB1)
Removable Drive (I:) : N/A @ Sony USB HS-MS (USB2)
Removable Drive (J:) : N/A @ Sony USB HS-CF (USB2)
Removable Drive (L:) : N/A @ Sony USB HS-SM/xD (USB2)
Removable Drive (M:) : N/A @ Sony USB HS-SD MMC (USB2)
Optical Drive (D:) : N/A @ ATAPI iHAP222 W (ATA66, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache)

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status report:

took trip to MicroCenter, Cleveland OH...Saturday.
bought Asus GEFORCE GTX 750 1GB DDR5 (new "Maxwell", high efficiency).
so far:
1. visual morer clear, clean, crisp and "vivid"
2. HUGE difference in response speed of CPU (quicker across the board...internet, files, tasks, everything)
3. had to pay $144.99....am fighting with MC to price match New Egg at $124.00

basicly proving what I thought: old GeForce 8400GS was hogging DDR2 RAM., slowing me down.
though, truthfully, a faster GPU probably helps !
.................................
upon swapping card. took good look at PSU.
problem.
Sony (POS) has a right angled bracket ("a reverse L") supporting PSU and limiting size.
? worth "bending" back to fit in a different, slightly larger (Deeper) PSU?

still thinking more watts, as cushion & future plans.................

........................
here's some info on card:

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/5221/nvidia-geforce-gtx-750--750-ti-review-the-first-maxwell-generation-gpus


http://uk.hardware.info/productinfo/206730/nvidia-geforce-gtx-750#tab:specifications



 
That gpu is a good upgrade from what you had, and from this point on, i would upgrade your cpu and motherboard for the next time you feel you need to upgrade. i would not go out and just buy a better video card until such a time as you do make a cpu upgrade (the 750 is still fine though, just anything more powerful may run into bottlenecks.)
 
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Brantyn Gerik & SR-71 Blackbird


This is the parting of our ways, so to speak.
Unfortunately for me, SONY (POS) has thrown one final ringer at me (Big Surprise!)

Even though Intel says my mainborad is replaceable:
SONY (POS) designed this Vaio chasis in such a way as to make it impossible
to do exactly that. (physically, structurally, form factor)

So, while I'm gonna keep an eye out for another PSU...this is the end of upgrading on this rig.

I THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR LINKS, SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS!
....for the record, i would perfer to say you both posed solutions!!!
jd